This seems to be a popular mix n match with the Turbo diesel owners. I can't think of any reason why you would to do this other than to retain 'some' clutch feel and travel.
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #1
Running a paddle clutch plate with a OE Valeo/LUK pressure plate - is this a good thing to do, ie in terms of reliability?This seems to be a popular mix n match with the Turbo diesel owners. I can't think of any reason why you would to do this other than to retain 'some' clutch feel and travel. |
Posted 3rd Apr 2013 at 21:04
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coskev
Seasoned Pro Location: Oswestry Registered: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,132 Status: Offline |
Post #2
Would make the pedal lighter,but you are lowering the clamping force of the clutch so abit pointless using a paddle plate I would think Cause the clutch would still be on/off taking up movement. ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
Posted 3rd Apr 2013 at 22:18
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #3
I have a Helix paddle plate and a Sachs cover if this is of any interest?Seems to work well in my car. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
Posted 3rd Apr 2013 at 22:57
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #4
Paddle clutches don't like to slip, at all. Not enough clutch surface to dissipate the heat.________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
Posted 4th Apr 2013 at 09:24
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jonnie205
Seasoned Pro Location: Bicester Registered: 10 Apr 2005 Posts: 4,146 Status: Offline |
Post #5
Its a good idea. Peugeot 206 cup and fiesta st rally cars run a std pressure plate and uprated disk. It actually clamps the paddles harder as there is less area plus the advantage or having an unspung disk adds strength. Plus the springs increase transmission losses. Stiffer pressure plates are a pain as they can increase stress on the cable and clutch mechanism as well as the pedal box and are only realy needed with very high power outputs |
Posted 4th Apr 2013 at 16:46
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clen666
Seasoned Pro Location: Co. Durham Registered: 12 Feb 2009 Posts: 2,401 Status: Offline |
Post #6
Hmm so you wouldn't recommend a sprung plate to dampen it a bit?Jim, is that why some people say the 6 paddle clutch is more manageable on the road than a 3 or 4, as it has greater heat dissipation? ________________________________________ Team 'unintentional rat look' |
Posted 4th Apr 2013 at 22:32
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #7
That and they're not usually as harsh on engagement because the plates tend to be offset slightly in a 3 + 3 setup.________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
Posted 4th Apr 2013 at 22:37
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clen666
Seasoned Pro Location: Co. Durham Registered: 12 Feb 2009 Posts: 2,401 Status: Offline |
Post #8
Phil, would you also advise on using a fixed plate over sprung?If there's not much difference I'd rather go fixed for the weight saving ________________________________________ Team 'unintentional rat look' |
Posted 4th Apr 2013 at 22:46
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #9
If you're going for silly torque figures, yes, or hard rally launches.If it's staying relatively sane and for road/track use, I'd go sprung as it does reduce the shock loadings through the driveline. ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
Posted 4th Apr 2013 at 22:55
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clen666
Seasoned Pro Location: Co. Durham Registered: 12 Feb 2009 Posts: 2,401 Status: Offline |
Post #10
cheers, sprung it is________________________________________ Team 'unintentional rat look' |
Posted 4th Apr 2013 at 23:00
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