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 hsustyle
Seasoned Pro  Location: High Hurstwood Registered: 08 Nov 2011 Posts: 1,037 Status: Offline |
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Silly question about it I'd rather be safe than sorry.. New Rallye has a Superchip fitted, Receipts for about, £240 including power run and printout. Bla bla I'm looking to fit a standard exhaust rather than the Powerflow and the standard airbox. Then reset ecu. Will an ecu reset it affect the chip at all? I gather it's a generic map and not an actual remap. ________________________________________ Beef Beyond Belief |
 Posted 26th Mar 2013 at 10:05
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rikky
🦔 Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,796 Status: Offline |
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can't see it affecting it but tbh i would be more intent on removing it personally________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 26th Mar 2013 at 10:06
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hsustyle
Seasoned Pro Location: High Hurstwood Registered: 08 Nov 2011 Posts: 1,037 Status: Offline |
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Yup I can't see why someone would spend that money on a generic chip. It's currently on 173bhp with K&n, sports cat, Powerflow and this Superchip. I was expecting a bit more.. Just wanted to make sure the chip doesn't throw a paddy. ________________________________________ Beef Beyond Belief |
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Posted 26th Mar 2013 at 10:11
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #4
The chip has a generic 'map' stored on it, resetting the ECU won't lose this so don't worry.However as Rikky says, you're probably best off removing it.  ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone  |
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Posted 26th Mar 2013 at 10:24
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scott.t16
Newbie  Location: Crowborough Registered: 27 May 2010 Posts: 24 Status: Offline |
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Mine had the same set-up as yours when I first got it - superchip, powerflow exhaust and k & n fitted.I've put a standard exhaust and airbox back on since, but kept the superchips ECU mainly because I can't be bothered to go through the hassle of removing it. I've reset the ecu at least once and haven't had any problems. Hope that helps Amin ________________________________________ Ph3 Black Gti 6 |
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Posted 26th Mar 2013 at 12:33
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hsustyle
Seasoned Pro Location: High Hurstwood Registered: 08 Nov 2011 Posts: 1,037 Status: Offline |
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Ok cool, thanks for that Scott. Three black 306s in Crowborough now! ________________________________________ Beef Beyond Belief |
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Posted 26th Mar 2013 at 12:42
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scott.t16
Newbie Location: Crowborough Registered: 27 May 2010 Posts: 24 Status: Offline |
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Yeah I know... Good to hear you're back in a 306!Got any plans for it? ________________________________________ Ph3 Black Gti 6 |
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Posted 26th Mar 2013 at 13:07
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hsustyle
Seasoned Pro Location: High Hurstwood Registered: 08 Nov 2011 Posts: 1,037 Status: Offline |
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scott.t16 wrote: Yeah I know... Good to hear you're back in a 306! Got any plans for it? Nothing major, just standard exhaust and airbox, refurb cyclones in silver, repair ripped drivers seat and new Rallye decals. It's pretty damn tidy overall. I'll get a progress blog up soon. ________________________________________ Beef Beyond Belief |
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Posted 26th Mar 2013 at 13:54
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro  Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
Post #9
Why remove the superchip...I thought these were actually pretty decent? Good gain in the mid range? ________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 26th Mar 2013 at 15:19
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hsustyle
Seasoned Pro Location: High Hurstwood Registered: 08 Nov 2011 Posts: 1,037 Status: Offline |
Post #10
Graph looks smooth and torque is steady too.  ________________________________________ Beef Beyond Belief |
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Posted 26th Mar 2013 at 15:59
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #11
eliotrw wrote: Why remove the superchip... I thought these were actually pretty decent? Good gain in the mid range? Because they are a generic map. The only real benefit any change to the mapping will be if the map is bespoke for your particular vehicle, then it's worth doing.  ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 26th Mar 2013 at 16:26
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scott.t16
Newbie Location: Crowborough Registered: 27 May 2010 Posts: 24 Status: Offline |
Post #12
Any idea how you would go about getting these removed Stan?I've always thought Superchips would probably charge you to get the original map reinstalled, so haven't really bothered. ________________________________________ Ph3 Black Gti 6 |
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Posted 26th Mar 2013 at 16:40
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
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stan_306gti6 wrote: eliotrw wrote: Why remove the superchip... I thought these were actually pretty decent? Good gain in the mid range? Because they are a generic map. The only real benefit any change to the mapping will be if the map is bespoke for your particular vehicle, then it's worth doing. Better than the standard one though surely? As thats only generic as well? ________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 26th Mar 2013 at 16:45
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smegal
Seasoned Pro  Location: Leeds Registered: 26 Dec 2005 Posts: 5,940 Status: Offline |
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eliotrw wrote: stan_306gti6 wrote: eliotrw wrote: Why remove the superchip... I thought these were actually pretty decent? Good gain in the mid range? Because they are a generic map. The only real benefit any change to the mapping will be if the map is bespoke for your particular vehicle, then it's worth doing. Better than the standard one though surely? As thats only generic as well? As us the low boost supercharger map. ________________________________________ Ex SC-6Now in a Megane R26 |
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Posted 26th Mar 2013 at 16:49
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
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Exactly the same problems occur with the low booat generic map from what I can tell. Some cars stall more than others and some have hesitation in the mid-range, all of which could be ironed out or bettered with a bespoke map. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 26th Mar 2013 at 22:29
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coskev
Seasoned Pro  Location: Oswestry Registered: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,132 Status: Offline |
Post #16
Leave the superchip in Yeah its not as good as custom re-map but it won't hurt changing exhaust/air filter etc. They are a old style chip in these, that needs phsyically removing and a standard chip refitting, so quite an expensive job imo for something that does not need doing! ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
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Posted 27th Mar 2013 at 09:01
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
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coskev wrote: Leave the superchip in Yeah its not as good as custom re-map but it won't hurt changing exhaust/air filter etc. They are a old style chip in these, that needs phsyically removing and a standard chip refitting, so quite an expensive job imo for something that does not need doing! This is very true, it won't hurt it as such being there and it will cost to get it removed. I personally would rather not have it but for the cost of removing it, might not be worth it. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 27th Mar 2013 at 09:35
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coskev
Seasoned Pro Location: Oswestry Registered: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,132 Status: Offline |
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If you really do want rid of it sell your ecu and transponder/chip etc And say buyer must part ex there standard ecu and transponder/chip If you do decide to do this drop me a pm please, as I would be interested in yours ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
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Posted 27th Mar 2013 at 13:51
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hsustyle
Seasoned Pro Location: High Hurstwood Registered: 08 Nov 2011 Posts: 1,037 Status: Offline |
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Will do. Cheers for the info. ________________________________________ Beef Beyond Belief |
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Posted 27th Mar 2013 at 14:04
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mattgti6phase2
Seasoned Pro  Location: inside my 6 abusing the tarmac!! Registered: 16 Jul 2010 Posts: 2,371 Status: Offline |
Post #20
A super chip map is installed via the diagnostic port so can very easily be converted back at very little cost. The difference is nothing. Slight advances to ignition is the only difference. When mine was standard it made standard power with a very healthy graph no dips at any point in the rev range for power or torque so IMO its not worth touching. Cams and or bodies would be the only time i would bother with a remap (custom) small adjustments like decat exhaust and air filter the ECU can learn itself and adjust accordingly. ________________________________________ Team Nile 6 Team: 40.2 MPG  5 x a 306 owner! currently abusing type r's in a town near you ™ I truely live for the 306 ® Build date: 29th October 1997 Wednesday's car midweek madness  |
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Posted 27th Mar 2013 at 20:28
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coskev
Seasoned Pro Location: Oswestry Registered: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,132 Status: Offline |
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mattgti6phase2 wrote: A super chip map is installed via the diagnostic port so can very easily be converted back at very little cost. Are you sure?  Cause I know Andy bought a ECU off RichW with a Superchip in it and the chip came loose so Rich had the ECU back to re-fit it. Also if you can re-map via the diagnostic port why do Chip Wizards have to solder in a port so they can adjust the map? ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
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Posted 27th Mar 2013 at 20:34
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smegal
Seasoned Pro Location: Leeds Registered: 26 Dec 2005 Posts: 5,940 Status: Offline |
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coskev wrote: mattgti6phase2 wrote: A super chip map is installed via the diagnostic port so can very easily be converted back at very little cost. Are you sure? Cause I know Andy bought a ECU off RichW with a Superchip in it and the chip came loose so Rich had the ECU back to re-fit it. Also if you can re-map via the diagnostic port why do Chip Wizards have to solder in a port so they can adjust the map? Correct. On new cars, this may be the case, but on older cars you have to change the chip. ________________________________________ Ex SC-6Now in a Megane R26 |
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Posted 27th Mar 2013 at 20:50
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mattgti6phase2
Seasoned Pro Location: inside my 6 abusing the tarmac!! Registered: 16 Jul 2010 Posts: 2,371 Status: Offline |
Post #23
100000000000000000000% a 306 can have its map altered via diagnostic. The ECU has an EEPROM style chip so it can be re written and put back to standard. They remove the standard file and save it on the laptop then put the new file on. ________________________________________ Team Nile 6Team: 40.2 MPG 5 x a 306 owner! currently abusing type r's in a town near you ™ I truely live for the 306 ® Build date: 29th October 1997 Wednesday's car midweek madness |
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Posted 28th Mar 2013 at 09:56
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coskev
Seasoned Pro Location: Oswestry Registered: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,132 Status: Offline |
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mattgti6phase2 wrote: 100000000000000000000% a 306 can have its map altered via diagnostic. The ECU has an EEPROM style chip so it can be re written and put back to standard. They remove the standard file and save it on the laptop then put the new file on. Strange that is, as I've been told by demon tweeks, who are superchips dealers, that the ecu needs opening up and a new chip inserting Also spoke to motorsport developments in blackpool that produce the evolution chips and they said the same So you have actually seen it done via diagnostic port? ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
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Posted 28th Mar 2013 at 11:19
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coskev
Seasoned Pro Location: Oswestry Registered: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,132 Status: Offline |
Post #25
Also why do chip wizards go to the trouble of adding a cable with a connector into the ecu to alter the map if it can be done via diagnostic port?________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
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Posted 28th Mar 2013 at 11:22
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