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welshpug! wrote:
Bmw runflat alloys tend to crack too.

I only had issues from fair impacts, 11k miles of welsh lanes and city driving theyre still round.


Yeah, a lad at work was saying that too

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Posted 22nd Dec 2012 at 11:43
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I know for a fact i wouldn't buy a wheel that has been welded!


I'm not too fussed, ideally not, but I'd certainly run a welded wheel

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Posted 22nd Dec 2012 at 11:44
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Well obviously LOL as you're running a welded wheel now haha!

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Posted 22nd Dec 2012 at 11:55
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It looks too high, what kind of penetration has it got also its not very neat.

Iv had an alloy welded before and it looked a lot neater than that one. Did the welder weld a plate at the back to give it a bit more strength?

I never said i was an expert, so keep your comments to your self as they never have any use. You dont have to be an expert to know that the weld shouldnt be trusted, especially if there isnt a plate welded at the back and how weak these alloys are.

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Posted 22nd Dec 2012 at 11:56
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It looks too high, what kind of penetration has it got also its not very neat.

Iv had an alloy welded before and it looked a lot neater than that one. Did the welder weld a plate at the back to give it a bit more strength?

I never said i was an expert, so keep your comments to your self as they never have any use.



You can't very well say "That welding is s**t..... I'm no expert"


Yes, the crack was prevented from spreading, the penetration is perfect and it was built up a little

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Posted 22nd Dec 2012 at 12:02
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beez_neez_gt wrote:
It looks too high, what kind of penetration has it got also its not very neat.

Iv had an alloy welded before and it looked a lot neater than that one. Did the welder weld a plate at the back to give it a bit more strength?

I never said i was an expert, so keep your comments to your self as they never have any use. You dont have to be an expert to know that the weld shouldnt be trusted, especially if there isnt a plate welded at the back and how weak these alloys are.



LOL clever hindsight edit there, ey?

Didn't need a plate welding to it

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Posted 22nd Dec 2012 at 14:25
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welshpug! wrote:
Bmw runflat alloys tend to crack too.



Sidewalls on runflats are stupidly hard,hence why you can drive them flat I suppose!!LOL

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Posted 22nd Dec 2012 at 14:48
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beez_neez_gt wrote:


I never said i was an expert, so keep your comments to your self.


But you made a comment yourself in the first place LOL. Besides, if a weld is done correctly then it shouldn't need a plate and it certainly won't be a weak spot on the wheel.

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Posted 22nd Dec 2012 at 15:30
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Right ok, my alloy is a strong type and was bend via a kerb by the previous owner. The alloy wheel specialist welded a plate at the back. A proper alloy wheel specialist would not leave it or weld it like that and i wouldnt want to use it if mine were mended like that. All it takes is going round the bend over a pot hole and possibly badly break in that area.

Heat weakens the aluminium to a degree which is why the specialist welded a plate at the back of where it was mended, the crack opened up around the edge, it maybe alright its just i wouldnt risk using it looking at he welds and no ectra strength added around that area.

The specialist said he would not touch it if my alloy had a crack or ended up getting one due to mending it. The weld looks high and messy and wouldnt risk using the wheel looking like that.

Wheels, brakes and steering parts are the most important, take it to a spe ialist just to get a secknd opinion in case as im sure you dont want the wheel to break during use.

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Posted 22nd Dec 2012 at 15:50
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Right ok, my alloy is a strong type and was bend via a kerb by the previous owner. The alloy wheel specialist welded a plate at the back. A proper alloy wheel specialist would not leave it or weld it like that and i wouldnt want to use it if mine were mended like that. All it takes is going round the bend over a pot hole and possibly badly break in that area.

Heat weakens the aluminium to a degree which is why the specialist welded a plate at the back of where it was mended, the crack opened up around the edge, it maybe alright its just i wouldnt risk using it looking at he welds and no ectra strength added around that area.

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Posted 22nd Dec 2012 at 16:05
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To be fair when I had one repaired it came back almost good as new. The weld was ground right down and smoothed off so it was flush with the rest of the rim. That was 3 years ago and it's still going strong.

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Posted 22nd Dec 2012 at 16:31
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To be fair when I had one repaired it came back almost good as new. The weld was ground right down and smoothed off so it was flush with the rest of the rim. That was 3 years ago and it's still going strong.


Is it possible to get the Cyclones repaired on here? i have a slight flat spot on one of mine (it still balances ok).
I've had a spin out on buckled wheels in the past which is why i'll only stick this alloy on the back now.

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Posted 22nd Dec 2012 at 20:19
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Depends how bad they are, get it to an alloy wheel specialist.

I've straightened a few alloys out just with hide hammers or blocks of wood and sledges.

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Posted 22nd Dec 2012 at 20:34
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welshpug! wrote:
Depends how bad they are, get it to an alloy wheel specialist.

I've straightened a few alloys out just with hide hammers or blocks of wood and sledges.



Hmmmm, i need to take a decent look in the new year when i have time and the right place to do it in.

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Posted 22nd Dec 2012 at 21:12
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I could have taken a soft pad to it or a belt and tidied it up, but so what? Are you suggesting it being neat and looking as good as new (which was not necessary) has an impact on the strength of the repair?

I've never seen a repaired wheel that was plated. Sure the specialist didn't fook up and mess up the weld, so plated and backfilled?

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Posted 22nd Dec 2012 at 21:51
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I could have taken a soft pad to it or a belt and tidied it up, but so what? Are you suggesting it being neat and looking as good as new (which was not necessary) has an impact on the strength of the repair?

I've never seen a repaired wheel that was plated. Sure the specialist didn't fook up and mess up the weld, so plated and backfilled?


As long as it's practical and works, surely in winter times that's all that matters?

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You'll need to throw money at the car. Not on parts. Just stand near your car and throw loose change at it, I find this increases performance for a short period of time
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Posted 22nd Dec 2012 at 21:58
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exactly mate, t'other lad was suggesting it was a bad weld. I've never seen a plated wheel though

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Posted 23rd Dec 2012 at 09:29
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Same, no need if its done properly.

Dont see banded wheels plated do you LOL

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Posted 23rd Dec 2012 at 10:24
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welshpug! wrote:
Same, no need if its done properly.

Dont see banded wheels plated do you LOL


Hence my theory that his specialist had an issue.... I'm guessing half the wheel dropped away as he stuck the power to it, so plated and back filled LOL

As long as it looks neat though....

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Posted 23rd Dec 2012 at 10:54
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I could have taken a soft pad to it or a belt and tidied it up, but so what? Are you suggesting it being neat and looking as good as new (which was not necessary) has an impact on the strength of the repair?


If that's a question about my post then no I'm not saying that, I just described how mine was finished when it was repaired. Personally I believe if somebody takes the time to give a good finish then he's someone who takes pride in what he does.

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Posted 23rd Dec 2012 at 11:43
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No, Ian, we're on about beez_neez!

If I'd paid for it to be done, then I'd expect it to come back with the weld finished etc

As I didn't pay and spent a few minutes on it, I'm not bothered Wink

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Posted 23rd Dec 2012 at 11:46
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Ah, i didn't realise you had done it yourself.

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Posted 23rd Dec 2012 at 11:49
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Post #48
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No, Ian, we're on about beez_neez!

If I'd paid for it to be done, then I'd expect it to come back with the weld finished etc

As I didn't pay and spent a few minutes on it, I'm not bothered Wink


Fair enough Cool

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Posted 23rd Dec 2012 at 13:15

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