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whats the best stuff to use for treating rust? I want to clean up my engine bay as there's a couple of scabby bits
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 JWP EFi
Turbo Legend!  Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
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 Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 00:00
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro  Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
Post #2
bilt hammer deox gel is meant to be the s**t________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 00:26
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #3
i'll see if i can find it tomorrow. wonder if will work on the chassis too. some of my underseal has letgo in places so want to nip that in the bud too |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 00:33
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mik
Seasoned Pro  Location: Kent Registered: 17 Feb 2011 Posts: 2,100 Status: Offline |
Post #4
As said, deox gel. It works better if you get a drill wire brush and get all the loose stuff off, then put on the gel covered with cling film to stop it drying out and leave it for 2 or 3 days before hosing off. Then apply bilt hamber electrox zinc primer to the de-rusted metal. Overcoat with your choice of paint. You can get Bilt Hamber products online, delivery is pretty quick. ________________________________________ Cherry Rallye SOLD |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 07:27
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mik
Seasoned Pro Location: Kent Registered: 17 Feb 2011 Posts: 2,100 Status: Offline |
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You will need to peel the bad bits of underseal off manually. As I have found, it can look sound but actually be incubating rust by trapping water next to the metal where it has become detached but stays in place. I peeled the bad bits off, de rusted and zinc primed it, then overcoated with body-colour paint. Looks good now. In some areas you will need stone chip paint over the top of the zinc primer.Also make sure you do the wheel arch lips - best to catch them early. There may be flaking paint there. I spent months de-rusting the underside of my car, now only the sill seams to go. ________________________________________ Cherry Rallye SOLD |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 07:35
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey  Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
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I find the best treatment for rusty metal is new steel  Buy a welder and an angle grinder and get medieval on its ass! ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 07:50
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mik
Seasoned Pro Location: Kent Registered: 17 Feb 2011 Posts: 2,100 Status: Offline |
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Yes, an all-new bodyshell would be the best option!!  ________________________________________ Cherry Rallye SOLD |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 11:33
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
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*Checks garden for my all new bodyshells**f**k ive ran out again.* ________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 14:39
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rikky
🦔 Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,796 Status: Offline |
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cleveland salvage have new bodyshells________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 14:46
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owain
Seasoned Pro  Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
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Bilt Hamber are awesome, they also do a weld-through metal primer spray paint which I used to do my interior, was very good and no more expensive than the crappy Halfords stuff. Deox-C soak for parts that are small and come off, gel for bits that don't. As people said though it's not going to get through paint or grease, so get the metal as bare as possible to give it a chance. ________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 15:08
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
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rikky wrote: cleveland salvage have new bodyshells was gonna say, I bet there's still a few shells about. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 15:14
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
Post #12
ORly??________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 17:34
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daver6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Durham Registered: 08 Aug 2010 Posts: 2,379 Status: Offline |
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daveyboy wrote: I find the best treatment for rusty metal is new steel Buy a welder and an angle grinder and get medieval on its ass! that's the only fix really, New metal! we deal with it at work all the time and the only solution is new metal! I'll give the treatment a go for the repair work I'm wanting to tackle ________________________________________ Red Rallye - Rolling "restoration"Wishbone Polybushes available |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 18:23
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro  Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
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Anyone got any stainless steel shells floating around? No?Damn. ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 18:35
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coskev
Seasoned Pro  Location: Oswestry Registered: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,132 Status: Offline |
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daver6 wrote: daveyboy wrote: I find the best treatment for rusty metal is new steel Buy a welder and an angle grinder and get medieval on its ass! that's the only fix really, New metal! we deal with it at work all the time and the only solution is new metal! I'll give the treatment a go for the repair work I'm wanting to tackle New metal is the best option for rotten metal for sure! But over the top for surface rust repairs really  Surface rust can be treated and stopped from spreading without the need to get the welder out  ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 18:37
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
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phillipm wrote: Anyone got any stainless steel shells floating around? No? Damn. Or ally? :p ________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 18:37
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coskev
Seasoned Pro Location: Oswestry Registered: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,132 Status: Offline |
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rikky wrote: cleveland salvage have new bodyshells How much?  ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 18:38
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
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As above if they are cheap. its interesting....________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 18:57
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
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list price is £2.5k, which seems a bit high as the 205 was £800 odd and the 106 about £900.207 shells are £1400. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 19:12
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
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Fml no one would buy them at that surely.________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 22nd Nov 2012 at 19:15
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mik
Seasoned Pro Location: Kent Registered: 17 Feb 2011 Posts: 2,100 Status: Offline |
Post #21
You can get a really nice painted (but perhaps slightly rusty in its nether regions) shell with the rest of the car attached to it including engine, wheels and everything for that kind of money. ________________________________________ Cherry Rallye SOLD |
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Posted 25th Nov 2012 at 00:02
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rikky
🦔 Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,796 Status: Offline |
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I was gonna buy a new shell and rebuild it with brand new parts to make a new registered gti6. But then I came to my sense and realised it would cost far too much. So I bought a Mercedes ________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 25th Nov 2012 at 00:13
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
Post #23
It would be a Q reg though i guess? if you did do it that is.________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 25th Nov 2012 at 00:30
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coskev
Seasoned Pro Location: Oswestry Registered: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,132 Status: Offline |
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eliotrw wrote: It would be a Q reg though i guess? if you did do it that is. Like kit carsI suppose ,new parts build goes on age related plate ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
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Posted 25th Nov 2012 at 12:37
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