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ed_doe

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Post #26
*sigh*

Well coming back to this, I'm pretty convinced it's overfuelling, it stinks of petrol on idle, particularly when cold...

I'm concerned the lambda is possibly cooked again, but this may point to another issue. Does anyone have any ideas?

Hesitancy coming back onto the throttle (as best as I can describe it; when changing for instance from 3rd to 4th, you put a bit of throttle on to 'catch the revs' smoothly as you engage the clutch again, it seems I have to put my toe in a bit more still just after engaging, as it hesitates initially.
The first couple of cm of throttle are pretty numb until it hits a certain point, and then it's much more sensitive and picks up again....

I'm getting a bit p**sy with the fecking thing now. Ordered a fuel filter and new spark plugs, so am planning on whipping the old ones out to inspect them at some point in the next couple of weekends.

Anyone have any clever ideas???

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Posted 7th Jan 2013 at 10:18
smegal

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Post #27
I'd recommend that you find someone with a Peugeot Planet interface/appropriate diagnostics and find out for sure.

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Posted 7th Jan 2013 at 10:38
ed_doe

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Post #28
Yeah, I've got a mate with pp; I'll see if he fancies plugging it in to see if the sensors are all playing ball...

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Posted 7th Jan 2013 at 12:57
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Post #29
It's probably the best move forwards as you could be hours trying to guess, not to mention the cost of buying different sensors to see if they solve your issue.

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Posted 7th Jan 2013 at 14:37
coskev

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Post #30
Is peugeot planet the diagnostics pug dealers use?Dunno

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Posted 7th Jan 2013 at 17:04
swiftyboi006

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Post #31
Def plug it in but could it not be the coolant temp sensor? If its only when cold?

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Posted 7th Jan 2013 at 17:32
woody.

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Post #32
I've got the same issues and I've been trying to put up with it but its really getting on my tits! Has anyone got Peugeot planet in the midlands by any chance LOL
Posted 7th Jan 2013 at 17:37
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Post #33
coskev wrote:
Is peugeot planet the diagnostics pug dealers use?Dunno


Yes

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Posted 7th Jan 2013 at 18:49
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Post #34
woody. wrote:
Has anyone got Peugeot planet in the midlands by any chance LOL


Yes

Carl @ CG Cars does...Smile

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Posted 7th Jan 2013 at 18:49
woody.

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Post #35
stan_306gti6 wrote:
woody. wrote:
Has anyone got Peugeot planet in the midlands by any chance LOL


Yes

Carl @ CG Cars does...Smile


Ahhh not that dodgy b*stard Whistle

Nah, I'll give him a call when I've got the funds!
Posted 7th Jan 2013 at 18:54
ed_doe

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Post #36
Well I think my replacement lambda was at fault as well. Unplugged it for the drive back from work and it's heaps better, not as boggy on gear changes and less fuelly. I'm hoping it was the lambda anyway, rather than one of those problems that just causes the car to s**t lambdas for fun....

I mean it's still not perfect, but I'm assuming that's just cause it's on a generic map, rather than taking live readings, and having a fresh lambda will solve this?

Next question; what lambda should I buy? Links would be appreciated Big grin cheers guys

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Posted 7th Jan 2013 at 19:32
Niall

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Post #37
Scrap it. Its f**ked.
Posted 7th Jan 2013 at 21:48
ed_doe

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Post #38
Thanks Niall....

Righto,

http://www.lambdasensor.co.uk/main/ntkpr...OZA527-E17

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NGK-Front-Lamb...231fbd3751


Are these the correct sensors? Should I buy the one from Ebay, or does anyone get a sweet discount on them elsewhere that wouldn't mind passing on? Razz

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'99 Ph3 Diablo Gti6 108k RIP
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Posted 8th Jan 2013 at 08:29
ed_doe

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Post #39
Anyone?

Also, if a lambda has been left in a Decat pipe for a couple of months in a shed could it have potentially aged it? Only I'm trying to work out why my low miles replacement ntk malbda had gone so quickly?

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Posted 8th Jan 2013 at 18:44
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Post #40
Bosch is the genuine item, whilst NTK are very good, I would always stick with Bosch for best performance and longevity of the lifespan of the part.

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Posted 8th Jan 2013 at 19:01
ed_doe

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Post #41
Right, got the car on a diagnostic tool today, with the lambda plugged back in. On idle the lambda voltage fluctuates between 27-650mV. Having run with theambda unplugged for the last couple of days, and now having driven it home with bit plugged back in, it feels noticeably more boggy and hesitant again.

Does anyone have any ideas on the above? Does it point to am exhaust leak before the lambda possibly? Or an inlet leak? Any ideas/info/help much appreciated. I I adore this car but am at the end of my tether with it now.

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'99 Ph3 Diablo Gti6 108k RIP
'93 106 1.5n/a d: daily hack YAAAAAWN
'00 Ph3 Astor GTi6 117k Love
Posted 9th Jan 2013 at 19:57
Niall

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Post #42
Ed, problem is you just sit there and worry about it. You dont try to think about fixing it!

Right, looking at them lambda readings, its running rich at times. So, basic things to think about. Is the map sensor reading correctly? if the map thinks there is more air going in than there is, then it will run rich.
Is the lambda dodgy? Just because youve fitted a new one, doesnt mean its good. New parts can be faulty.
condition of injectors? Unlikely because chances are you would notice it running really rough in my experience.
Damaged wiring to any of the sensors? could be O/C or high resistance due to some sort of damage.

Thats just basic things to check which arnt really difficult with a multimeter.
Posted 9th Jan 2013 at 20:15
ed_doe

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Post #43
Is a low mV reading on the lambda rich?

Map sensor was not a new one, but appears to be working from both when you last ppd it, and when I had it on diagnostics earlier. Dunno what voltage is supposed to be across it but it was changing when throttle was applied...

Tps, 4.5v at accessories, then between 1-5 v depending on throttle position when running.

No idea if the lambda is dodge, but it's doing exactly what the last one was from memory...

It does run a little lumpy sometimes. Only very slightly lumpy though...

The back of the Tps plug is cracked a bit but doesn't look damaged...

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'93 106 1.5n/a d: daily hack YAAAAAWN
'00 Ph3 Astor GTi6 117k Love
Posted 9th Jan 2013 at 20:28
Niall

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Post #44
Well check the tps plug for resistance. If water has gotten in, it could of easily corroded the pins causing resistance issues.
And yeah lower the mV, more fuel it injects. As for the MAP, im not sure on the correct readings but i will find out before i pop down on saturday. Pretty sure they are on AD.
Posted 9th Jan 2013 at 20:37

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