Can any body shed any light on this
Thanks tony
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Author | Subject: Clutch judder |
tony1991
Regular Location: northampton Registered: 07 Nov 2008 Posts: 406 Status: Offline |
Post #1
Well after having fly wheel re faced got the garage to fit new clutch and new fly wheel. Still had a slight cluch judder but getting worse. Spoke with a friend and he said worst case been bottom pulley gone, when I brought the engine it had under gone a refurb on bottom end 2k before, my personal opinion not been a mechanic is the fitting of new clutch/ fly wheel was not correct ie bolts at wrong toque Can any body shed any light on this Thanks tony |
Posted 24th Sep 2012 at 21:47
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jeffers
Forum Admin Location: Leeds Registered: 14 Dec 2003 Posts: 3,702 Status: Offline |
Post #2
Moved to correct section.________________________________________ Team Running Engine again!Team Negative Camber! My Budget track engine build thread! Now appearing at a Trackday near you!! |
Posted 24th Sep 2012 at 21:48
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tony1991
Regular Location: northampton Registered: 07 Nov 2008 Posts: 406 Status: Offline |
Post #3
Thanks just realised after that |
Posted 24th Sep 2012 at 21:50
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coskev
Seasoned Pro Location: Oswestry Registered: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,132 Status: Offline |
Post #4
Can't see the bottom pulley causing it! as you say,the clutch cover has prob not been bolted down evenly ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
Posted 25th Sep 2012 at 08:16
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #5
Did they fit a new clutch cable and clutch shaft bushes.I doubt very much that incorrect torque would cause it unless the bolts were loose. Have the engine mounts been replaced? ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
Posted 25th Sep 2012 at 08:31
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coskev
Seasoned Pro Location: Oswestry Registered: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,132 Status: Offline |
Post #6
welshpug! wrote: I doubt very much that incorrect torque would cause it unless the bolts were loose. ? incorrect torque would not,but bolting down unevenly can. Thinking again,could also be the metal part the release bearing slides on,mine was pretty rusty and the bearing would not slide nicely on it,needs cleaning up with emery cloth ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
Posted 25th Sep 2012 at 09:27
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tony1991
Regular Location: northampton Registered: 07 Nov 2008 Posts: 406 Status: Offline |
Post #7
I asked my friend if sticky cable coud cause this an he said not. My clutch pedal sticks a bit which i fort could be the problem and I read about the bush yesterday il try cable first, but I'm getting a light weight fly wheel so if that don't work il strip it down and clean an sort everything along with another new cluch |
Posted 25th Sep 2012 at 11:42
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #8
tony1991 wrote: Well after having fly wheel re faced got the garage to fit new clutch and new fly wheel. I'm slightly confused by this. Did you have the garage fit a "new" flywheel or the one you had re-faced? If it was the re-faced unit, then it's quite possible the flywheel is now slightly out of balance although they should have spun it up and re-balanced it when they took the material off the front. Alternatively, it could well be the clutch pressure plate which hasn't been tightened in the correct pattern and therefore is causing judder now. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
Posted 25th Sep 2012 at 13:58
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #9
Was the friction plate in the pressure plate skimmed too? As the judder could be caused by uneven wear there.________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
Posted 25th Sep 2012 at 14:17
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tony1991
Regular Location: northampton Registered: 07 Nov 2008 Posts: 406 Status: Offline |
Post #10
I got the garage to fit my refaced one of my old engine ( was fine but got it refaced anyway) then they fitted my cluch I had been running for a week with clutch judder, which was worse so put a new clutch kit on, was not perfect but very slight judder but now it is getting terrible Today I drove it an now have knocking noise as well from engine |
Posted 25th Sep 2012 at 22:13
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #11
Bottom end completely shagged by the sound of it.________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
Posted 25th Sep 2012 at 22:18
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tony1991
Regular Location: northampton Registered: 07 Nov 2008 Posts: 406 Status: Offline |
Post #12
I think I agree unfortunately When I brought he engine apparently only had bottom end refurberd 2k before bit gutted not done many miles t all |
Posted 25th Sep 2012 at 22:27
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #13
Gutted for you, any chance of comeback?________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
Posted 25th Sep 2012 at 22:42
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tony1991
Regular Location: northampton Registered: 07 Nov 2008 Posts: 406 Status: Offline |
Post #14
Well I got it of a member on here, when I picked it up I fort I had a good engine might go ack to sorting head out on my old engine |
Posted 25th Sep 2012 at 22:47
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #15
Thats a bummer, sounds like they knew about it though as you don't usually pay out to refurb an engine only to sell it right away...________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
Posted 26th Sep 2012 at 09:19
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #16
It most certainly shouldn't be the engine unless it has been run dry, it had a brand new clutch when it was built and fitted in the original car and had no issues at all from what I know of it, as you'd expect from a new clutch + cable + bushes, its never run since it was in that car afaik.The previous owner can never make his fecking mind up about what he wants to build, he's gone from a 2140cc bodied 205 back to a 1905 carbed 8 valve in the space of 18 months he never used this engine, nor did the guy he bought it off. It SHOULD be a good lump for years to come, however I never actually heard it run ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
Posted 26th Sep 2012 at 11:22
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #17
This needs a bit more looking into methinks.________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
Posted 26th Sep 2012 at 16:17
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #18
Agreed, something certainly doesn't sound right, especially if the bottom end is now knocking itself to pieces when the issue started out as clutch judder...________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
Posted 26th Sep 2012 at 20:36
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tony1991
Regular Location: northampton Registered: 07 Nov 2008 Posts: 406 Status: Offline |
Post #19
I have the chance to get back to the garage I not really sure on there work tbh but they should look after me as I do a lot of work for the garage so as I'm not a mechanic im tuna get it back in at weekend I will keep you up dated, also burning abit of oil not majorly but take it for good drive you can smell it Il let the garage have a look not looking forward to the price tho |
Posted 26th Sep 2012 at 22:15
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #20
If its knocking dont even fire it up.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
Posted 26th Sep 2012 at 22:18
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #21
Damage is already done by the sound of it.________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
Posted 26th Sep 2012 at 22:40
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