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 Niall
Seasoned Pro  Location: Epsom Registered: 06 Jun 2012 Posts: 1,941 Status: Offline |
Post #1
I have searched for this but cant really find a answer to my question  I want to buy a xsara VTS rack my my PH3 gti. I understand that the vts ph1 rack is 2.1 turns and the ph2 is 2.4 i think. What i want to know is, is it basically a direct fit for the ph1 rack onto the gti in terms of pipe connections? im pretty sure it bolts to the subframe the same as all racks? cheers guys |
 Posted 11th Sep 2012 at 22:57
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro  Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,865 Status: Offline |
Post #2
The ph1 is yes. The p2 not so much. Hoses are different on it etc..________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 11th Sep 2012 at 23:01
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Niall
Seasoned Pro Location: Epsom Registered: 06 Jun 2012 Posts: 1,941 Status: Offline |
Post #3
Ok, how have people gotten round this? i suppose its a case of getting a new length of HP hydraulic hose? |
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Posted 11th Sep 2012 at 23:03
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Rich E
Forum Admin Location: Hertfordshire Registered: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 7,757 Status: Offline |
Post #4
The phase 2 rack only has different pipe connections. It's a direct fit if you use the Xsara pipes. The phase 1 rack uses the same pipes as the GTi-6.________________________________________ Rich |
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Posted 11th Sep 2012 at 23:05
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,865 Status: Offline |
Post #5
Not sure. Last time i checked most of those with p2 ones sold up for p1 as its easier.Im sure you can just get the ph2 vts pipes though Edit: what rich said ________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 11th Sep 2012 at 23:06
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dangti6
aka JKshooter  Location: Taunton, Somerset Registered: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 10,308 Status: Offline |
Post #6
Niall wrote: I understand that the vts ph1 rack is 2.1 turns and the ph2 is 2.4 i think. The ph1 is 2.4 turns lock to lock and the ph2 is 2.6 turns. ________________________________________  |
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Posted 11th Sep 2012 at 23:09
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Niall
Seasoned Pro Location: Epsom Registered: 06 Jun 2012 Posts: 1,941 Status: Offline |
Post #7
Ah great cheers.Ill go for a ph1 then. Got the chance to get a brand new one for £140 so should also freshen the steering right up! Not looking forward to fitting it though....can you wiggle them out the wheel arch or is it a drop subframe jobby? |
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Posted 11th Sep 2012 at 23:11
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davewagon
Senior User  Location: Corby / Northampton Registered: 21 Feb 2007 Posts: 889 Status: Offline |
Post #8
2.4 or 2.6 ?What's the lock figure for a gti6, surely not much more than any of the above? Dave ________________________________________ Team: Moonstone GTI-6™Team: ian7675 wrote: Remember....a 6 isn't just a car, it's a part time job  |
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Posted 12th Sep 2012 at 14:36
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braymond
Seasoned Pro  Location: Brighton Registered: 20 Aug 2008 Posts: 1,163 Status: Offline |
Post #9
I think the standard gti6 rack is a lazy 3.2And to my knowledge, phase1 xsara is 2.4, phase 2 is 2.6 ________________________________________ Rallye-RNurburgring article |
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Posted 12th Sep 2012 at 14:41
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davewagon
Senior User Location: Corby / Northampton Registered: 21 Feb 2007 Posts: 889 Status: Offline |
Post #10
Oh okay, I thought it would be an inconsiderable difference and hardly worth it,but I suppose that could be quite a noticeable leap? ________________________________________ Team: Moonstone GTI-6™Team: ian7675 wrote: Remember....a 6 isn't just a car, it's a part time job |
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Posted 12th Sep 2012 at 14:55
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marco gti6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Troisvierges Registered: 09 Mar 2009 Posts: 1,350 Status: Offline |
Post #11
So does anyone have the right part number for the rack that is a direct fit and 2.4 turns please?Thanks in advance |
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Posted 12th Sep 2012 at 15:12
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tvrfan007
Seasoned Pro  Location: In the garage Registered: 29 May 2005 Posts: 3,488 Status: Offline |
Post #12
I fitted a P2 rack and i just used the Xsara hoses, direct fit and no issues.________________________________________ I'm Si btw Night Blue VW Golf GTD Bianca LBSC Rallye - Track/Road Slag Project Thread Sparkling Silver Mini Cooper D - Super Dooper  - (The other half's wheels) |
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Posted 12th Sep 2012 at 16:04
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Niall
Seasoned Pro Location: Epsom Registered: 06 Jun 2012 Posts: 1,941 Status: Offline |
Post #13
marco gti6 wrote: So does anyone have the right part number for the rack that is a direct fit and 2.4 turns please? Thanks in advance I just found a reg number from a ph1 vts and wacked it into ECP. They do one for £301 but about £150 is a surcharge you get back when you take your old (or broken spare....  ) back so its actually quite cheap and should freshen up the steering seeing as mine has a fair bit of play! |
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Posted 12th Sep 2012 at 16:13
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jbradders
Regular  Location: Strood Registered: 01 Dec 2008 Posts: 150 Status: Offline |
Post #14
Would they be able to tell the difference if you give back a 6 one? |
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Posted 12th Sep 2012 at 16:20
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Niall
Seasoned Pro Location: Epsom Registered: 06 Jun 2012 Posts: 1,941 Status: Offline |
Post #15
doubt it. they look identical and i know when i took back a starter motor, the bloke just opened the box to make sure it was there (maybe he thought i was trying to con him with really dense, heavy cardboard) and closed it up. didnt check anything else at all.Im going to give it a go with my old 1.8 one |
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Posted 12th Sep 2012 at 16:22
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matt evans
Seasoned Pro  Location: Stourbridge Registered: 16 Sep 2009 Posts: 2,290 Status: Offline |
Post #16
Ive got a P1 vts rack on my 1999 P3 gti-6, pipes are a straight fit and the difference in steering is night and day. Much faster, more direct and pinpoint sharp.I wasnt expecting such a difference but its very noticable. ________________________________________ 1999 Astor Grey GTi-6 OEM+ (now gone...)2004 Aegean Blue 206 GTi 180 (also gone...) 2006 Skoda Fabia vRS in Sprint Yellow honestly3k wrote: Do you wrestle for a living matt? You sound like a monster  owain wrote: Nothing involving a 306 can be considered worthwhile. |
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Posted 12th Sep 2012 at 16:25
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Niall
Seasoned Pro Location: Epsom Registered: 06 Jun 2012 Posts: 1,941 Status: Offline |
Post #17
Cheers matt ive only spoken to one other guy whos got one but his was on a ph1 dturbo so wasnt so sure about fittings!Ordering one  |
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Posted 12th Sep 2012 at 16:29
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marco gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: Troisvierges Registered: 09 Mar 2009 Posts: 1,350 Status: Offline |
Post #18
matt evans wrote: Ive got a P1 vts rack on my 1999 P3 gti-6, pipes are a straight fit and the difference in steering is night and day. Much faster, more direct and pinpoint sharp. I wasnt expecting such a difference but its very noticable. Matt, can you provide the part number please? |
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Posted 12th Sep 2012 at 16:52
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matt evans
Seasoned Pro Location: Stourbridge Registered: 16 Sep 2009 Posts: 2,290 Status: Offline |
Post #19
marco gti6 wrote: matt evans wrote: Ive got a P1 vts rack on my 1999 P3 gti-6, pipes are a straight fit and the difference in steering is night and day. Much faster, more direct and pinpoint sharp. I wasnt expecting such a difference but its very noticable. Matt, can you provide the part number please? Marco, mine was used so i dont have a part number fella, sorry.  ________________________________________ 1999 Astor Grey GTi-6 OEM+ (now gone...)2004 Aegean Blue 206 GTi 180 (also gone...) 2006 Skoda Fabia vRS in Sprint Yellow honestly3k wrote: Do you wrestle for a living matt? You sound like a monster owain wrote: Nothing involving a 306 can be considered worthwhile. |
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Posted 12th Sep 2012 at 21:50
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gilesy
Seasoned Pro  Location: Greenwich - in that London Registered: 03 Apr 2006 Posts: 5,133 Status: Offline |
Post #20
Quick question, I've searched a gazillion threads to no avail. Is the Xsara steering rack the same on all the P1 models? |
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Posted 16th Sep 2012 at 16:30
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,866 Status: Offline |
Post #21
all VTS models yeah....________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 16th Sep 2012 at 16:36
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gilesy
Seasoned Pro Location: Greenwich - in that London Registered: 03 Apr 2006 Posts: 5,133 Status: Offline |
Post #22
Cheers me old china |
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Posted 16th Sep 2012 at 16:39
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,865 Status: Offline |
Post #23
f**k it. I think ill pick one up as well.________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 16th Sep 2012 at 18:00
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davedgti6
Seasoned Pro  Location: whiston, prescot Registered: 28 May 2006 Posts: 1,651 Status: Offline |
Post #24
Do Ecp list one specifically for the phase one Vts?, and another for the phase two Vts?, reason is they may just supply one variant which will probably be the 2.6 turns one with the different hose connections to the Gti-6,Top mod though, very noticeable on roundabouts, no more shuffling of the wheel, I would just source a second hand one, fit new rack ends and track rod ends ________________________________________ Team Supercharged Gti-6™ |
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Posted 16th Sep 2012 at 19:39
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coskev
Seasoned Pro  Location: Oswestry Registered: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,132 Status: Offline |
Post #25
davedgti6 wrote: Do Ecp list one specifically for the phase one Vts?, and another for the phase two Vts?, reason is they may just supply one variant which will probably be the 2.6 turns one with the different hose connections to the Gti-6, Should do,what if someone with a ph1 Xsara wants a rack? ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
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Posted 18th Sep 2012 at 16:36
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