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rich306

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I was cleaning up the rust on the block ready for it's respray, saw some corrosion around the holes on the front of the engine. Poked around with the screwdriver lightly tapping it with a hammer to remove old rust and this happened:




Now the following questions i need answered:

A: Is it a hole that will cause problems if left?
B: Possible to weld it up and close it that way?
C: New engine/block time??

I need a response asap please!

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Posted 5th Sep 2012 at 18:17
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It's a core plug. Should be able to replace just the plug
Posted 5th Sep 2012 at 18:27
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blandy

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Do not weld or leave it As it'll just throw coolant out
Posted 5th Sep 2012 at 18:28
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Rich E Forum Admin

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As said it's just a core plug, so replaceable. Given the state of the engine it might be a good idea to replace them all.

Part number is 0234 03 and they are currently £1.21 each.

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Posted 5th Sep 2012 at 18:31
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rich306

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Right ok, how do i replace this exactly? I don't have to rip the engine apart do i? lol

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jamiek_uk2000 wrote:
You'll need to throw money at the car. Not on parts. Just stand near your car and throw loose change at it, I find this increases performance for a short period of time
- Top Tip!!!
Posted 5th Sep 2012 at 18:35
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blandy

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They look like caps so basically pull out what's left of the dead one clean everything and they press back in (fairly tightly)
Posted 5th Sep 2012 at 18:38
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rich306

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In fact i now know Big grin thanks for your help guys..

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jamiek_uk2000 wrote:
You'll need to throw money at the car. Not on parts. Just stand near your car and throw loose change at it, I find this increases performance for a short period of time
- Top Tip!!!
Posted 5th Sep 2012 at 18:40
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I know its mean but i LOL'd when i read your post LOL

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Posted 5th Sep 2012 at 18:51
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rich306

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honestly3k wrote:
I know its mean but i LOL'd when i read your post LOL


Hehe, i was kinda S******g myself because i've never come across this problem before and they looked so corroded that you think it's the moulded part of the block LOL

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jamiek_uk2000 wrote:
You'll need to throw money at the car. Not on parts. Just stand near your car and throw loose change at it, I find this increases performance for a short period of time
- Top Tip!!!
Posted 5th Sep 2012 at 18:58
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honestly3k wrote:
I know its mean but i LOL'd when i read your post LOL


Cruel sod. LOL

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Posted 5th Sep 2012 at 19:07
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do they just press in or do you need to warm anything up eg?

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Posted 5th Sep 2012 at 21:06
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To get em out, whack em on the edge with a punch and it should rotate round so you can pull it out with pliers and a bit of wiggling. Ideally you should try and find a socket or something to use as a drift, so you get even pressure around the edges and then gently tap it in until its a nice tight fit.

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Posted 5th Sep 2012 at 21:26
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demondriverdan

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I had a core plug pop out once on one of our classic cars, wasn't fun! Hopefully shouldn't be too bad to fix though Smile One of those things you may as well do while the engine is out.

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Posted 5th Sep 2012 at 21:35
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When I built my high boost engine (which is now in Russbez's car) I replaced all of the core plugs as a matter of course when I built the lump up. Yes

I just wanted the build to be completely fresh. Wink

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Posted 5th Sep 2012 at 22:25
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stan_306gti6 wrote:
When I built my high boost engine (which is now in Russbez's car) I replaced all of the core plugs as a matter of course when I built the lump up. Yes

I just wanted the build to be completely fresh. Wink


This... It's one of those things that often gets missed out when engines are rebuilt. For the price and peace of mind having new ones in I don't understand why.

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Posted 6th Sep 2012 at 00:51
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Indeed, at £1.21 per plug it's a bit of a no-brainer. Smile

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Posted 6th Sep 2012 at 21:19
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ahh glad to know LOL

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Posted 6th Sep 2012 at 21:24
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ahh glad to know LOL


That's ok Russ, all part of the service. Smile LOL

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Posted 6th Sep 2012 at 22:19
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rich306

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Ordered the plugs from Pug this morning. Should be able to pick them up on Saturday!! Big grin Once again, thanks for the help guys.

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jamiek_uk2000 wrote:
You'll need to throw money at the car. Not on parts. Just stand near your car and throw loose change at it, I find this increases performance for a short period of time
- Top Tip!!!
Posted 6th Sep 2012 at 22:48
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Not a problem, at least you can relax now knowing you haven't got a hole in the 'actual' block. LOL

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Posted 7th Sep 2012 at 13:08
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cjm_harris

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What happened to the rusty bit that came off? Did that go in the engine? Unsure

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Posted 7th Sep 2012 at 13:17
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rich306

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stan_306gti6 wrote:
Not a problem, at least you can relax now knowing you haven't got a hole in the 'actual' block. LOL


lol, i know!! shocking stuff. and no, the metal bent inwards on the cap luckily.

If anything, there is just dust on the inside now.

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jamiek_uk2000 wrote:
You'll need to throw money at the car. Not on parts. Just stand near your car and throw loose change at it, I find this increases performance for a short period of time
- Top Tip!!!
Posted 8th Sep 2012 at 01:32
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Rich,

If it were me building that engine I would get the block hot washed so all the oil ways and coolant passages are nice and clear before you start the build. Yes

Stan.

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Posted 8th Sep 2012 at 10:41
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