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Not sure if this has been posted or not but..http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=712717
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 eddiebeano
Senior User  Location: Edinburgh Registered: 31 Dec 2008 Posts: 715 Status: Offline |
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 Posted 20th Jul 2012 at 10:06
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro  Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
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Yeah this is pretty major.The way these gangs steal them is sooooo intelligent too. Basically i was reading somewhere that they intercept your fob when you lock it. Go into the car, connect up to the obd2 thingy scan it for the key code. PUT a gps transmitter in it :O walk away and lock the car Come back to it two days later with a coded key and job done WTF Clearly they either work for bmw or have purchased/ got hold of thie equipment ________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 20th Jul 2012 at 10:12
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
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So basically, make sure its locked by checking the handle when you walk off________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 20th Jul 2012 at 10:13
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eddiebeano
Senior User Location: Edinburgh Registered: 31 Dec 2008 Posts: 715 Status: Offline |
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Nah, you have it wrong, they smash the window by the obd port( which is not picked up by the factory alarm due to a problem by bmw) reach down to the obd port and reprogram a new key there and then using that device in the second vid. Then they simply unlock the car and drive it away using the newly reprogrammed key.________________________________________ team: Stealth |
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Posted 20th Jul 2012 at 10:16
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mechanical_repairs
Seasoned Pro  Location: leicester Registered: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 12,122 Status: Offline |
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theres plenty of threads on it on piston heads. Its just theifs moving with the times i suppose, does make you think why is the obd port live when the car is off?Carl ________________________________________ C.G.Cars of Leicester, Peugeot/Citroen/Renault specialist Tel: 01162 624498/07799 405184 WWW.CGCARSLEICESTER.CO.UK36 narborough road south, Leicester LE3 2fn MOT station now open, tests £35 with a free retest. Recovery available with a recovery unit, for those not so local jobs Also offer the loan of a free courtesy car 306 dturbo |
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Posted 20th Jul 2012 at 10:19
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rikky
🦔 Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,796 Status: Offline |
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yeah seen this a bit ago! i'd rather they come and take it that way than come in my house thoughthis isn't new though, they're pretty amateur thieves by the looks of it if anything ________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 20th Jul 2012 at 10:21
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
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I think there must be two groups doing it then as I have seen people reporting that two.Ie there are definatly people getting their cars nicked as there is a gps sender under their seat and the theif already has their keys. I'll find a link when i can ________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 20th Jul 2012 at 10:25
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Niall
Seasoned Pro  Location: Epsom Registered: 06 Jun 2012 Posts: 1,941 Status: Offline |
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eliotrw wrote: Yeah this is pretty major. The way these gangs steal them is sooooo intelligent too. Basically i was reading somewhere that they intercept your fob when you lock it. Go into the car, connect up to the obd2 thingy scan it for the key code. PUT a gps transmitter in it :O walk away and lock the car Come back to it two days later with a coded key and job done WTF Clearly they either work for bmw or have purchased/ got hold of thie equipment Its very simple how they do it. They just get hold of the BMW diag software and hardware (there will be cheap copies like Peugeot planet) and reprogram a new key to your car. BMW have overlooked the security of the software. If you ever used Peugeot planet, you will notice that you need a code to work with any of the security features (code on the card that came with the car). BMW missed that bit.... |
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Posted 20th Jul 2012 at 10:45
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ardandy
Seasoned Pro  Location: Keighley Registered: 03 Feb 2005 Posts: 6,053 Status: Offline |
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mechanical_repairs wrote: theres plenty of threads on it on piston heads. Its just theifs moving with the times i suppose, does make you think why is the obd port live when the car is off? Carl If you've lost the key and need to reprogram a new one, how else would you do it?  |
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Posted 20th Jul 2012 at 10:45
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
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BOOMhttp://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/facing-jail-the-gang-who-stole-35m-worth-of-luxury-cars-by-remote-control-7920196.html ________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 20th Jul 2012 at 10:54
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
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old news lol, first heard about this myself last December IIRC!________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 20th Jul 2012 at 11:00
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matt evans
Seasoned Pro  Location: Stourbridge Registered: 16 Sep 2009 Posts: 2,290 Status: Offline |
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First time i've heard of it, hope no-one tries to knick my Prius off the drive..**just realised what a ridiculous statement that was** ________________________________________ 1999 Astor Grey GTi-6 OEM+ (now gone...)2004 Aegean Blue 206 GTi 180 (also gone...) 2006 Skoda Fabia vRS in Sprint Yellow honestly3k wrote: Do you wrestle for a living matt? You sound like a monster  owain wrote: Nothing involving a 306 can be considered worthwhile. |
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Posted 20th Jul 2012 at 11:03
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russbez
Seasoned Pro  Location: Inverness-Shire Registered: 19 Dec 2005 Posts: 7,459 Status: Offline |
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thats mental________________________________________ TEAM HIGH BOOST SUPERCHARGED RALLYEMy Rallye project thread |
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Posted 20th Jul 2012 at 11:56
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beez_neez_gt
Seasoned Pro  Location: @ de limit of adhesion ! Registered: 14 Oct 2008 Posts: 2,916 Status: Offline |
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Trackers seem to be the only way to stop them disappearing at cost, although if you can afford an expensive BMW then why not..________________________________________ Pug fee`ver,Pick a Bogey, buy a Pug. Black 306 GTI 6 Standard, was 60k mileage, bargain!! Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 20th Jul 2012 at 14:16
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mechanical_repairs
Seasoned Pro Location: leicester Registered: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 12,122 Status: Offline |
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ardandy wrote: mechanical_repairs wrote: theres plenty of threads on it on piston heads. Its just theifs moving with the times i suppose, does make you think why is the obd port live when the car is off? Carl If you've lost the key and need to reprogram a new one, how else would you do it? You order a key from the dealer to turn the ignition on like any other car first. Carl ________________________________________ C.G.Cars of Leicester, Peugeot/Citroen/Renault specialist Tel: 01162 624498/07799 405184 WWW.CGCARSLEICESTER.CO.UK36 narborough road south, Leicester LE3 2fn MOT station now open, tests £35 with a free retest. Recovery available with a recovery unit, for those not so local jobs Also offer the loan of a free courtesy car 306 dturbo |
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Posted 20th Jul 2012 at 14:30
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honestly3k
Seasoned Pro  Location: Berkhamsted Registered: 06 Apr 2009 Posts: 2,390 Status: Offline |
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Pretty mental really. Kinda makes me laugh, would probably take longer to steal a 10 year old GTi6 ________________________________________ ''Oh, it does handle like a golf!'' Why drive a Golf....when you can drive a GTi-6? |
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Posted 20th Jul 2012 at 16:03
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
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beez_neez_gt wrote: Trackers seem to be the only way to stop them disappearing at cost, although if you can afford an expensive BMW then why not.. Ive seen that lot of people are re routing the cable somewhere else in the dashboard /footwell area. The best option ive seen is people fitting a rocker switch somewhere under the passenger seat etc. To control the operation of the port ________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 20th Jul 2012 at 16:15
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prism7guy
Seasoned Pro  Location: DoncastAAAAARGH Registered: 13 Jan 2008 Posts: 4,640 Status: Offline |
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Might be a daft question but i guess they dont have the locking barrel thing on the steering column to lock the steering wheel?________________________________________ Goldie the track car. |
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Posted 20th Jul 2012 at 18:37
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mechanical_repairs
Seasoned Pro Location: leicester Registered: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 12,122 Status: Offline |
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prism7guy wrote: Might be a daft question but i guess they dont have the locking barrel thing on the steering column to lock the steering wheel? We have a BMW with this key system, basically the obd port is live all the time. When you insert the key it turns the ignition on, then press the start button and it does just what it says. The steering lock doesn't disengage until the start button is pressed and the key is recognised, don't forget the theifs are coding the key first, once coded the steering lock with de activate and then they start the car and drive off. Carl ________________________________________ C.G.Cars of Leicester, Peugeot/Citroen/Renault specialist Tel: 01162 624498/07799 405184 WWW.CGCARSLEICESTER.CO.UK36 narborough road south, Leicester LE3 2fn MOT station now open, tests £35 with a free retest. Recovery available with a recovery unit, for those not so local jobs Also offer the loan of a free courtesy car 306 dturbo |
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Posted 20th Jul 2012 at 18:49
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prism7guy
Seasoned Pro Location: DoncastAAAAARGH Registered: 13 Jan 2008 Posts: 4,640 Status: Offline |
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mechanical_repairs wrote: prism7guy wrote: Might be a daft question but i guess they dont have the locking barrel thing on the steering column to lock the steering wheel? We have a BMW with this key system, basically the obd port is live all the time. When you insert the key it turns the ignition on, then press the start button and it does just what it says. The steering lock doesn't disengage until the start button is pressed and the key is recognised, don't forget the theifs are coding the key first, once coded the steering lock with de activate and then they start the car and drive off. Carl Seems like a bit of a step backwards to me in terms of vehicle security. I'm just glad there doesnt seem to be a demand for stealing 306's.  ________________________________________ Goldie the track car. |
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Posted 20th Jul 2012 at 22:28
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ian7675
Techno Viking  Location: Gloucestershire Registered: 12 Oct 2007 Posts: 6,068 Status: Offline |
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I expect BMW will deny anything is wrong, claim to have had no complaints and continue to live on their age old reputation of being really reliable....again. How can people dare to question their amazing German engineering, it's not like they've ever designed any cars that would self ingest manifold parts or have alloys that crack or anything like that.________________________________________ Less than 24 hours to go! |
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Posted 20th Jul 2012 at 23:27
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allsmiles
Regular  Location: burton upon trent Registered: 07 Sep 2009 Posts: 320 Status: Offline |
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and for these reasons i dont drive anything thats worth too much!________________________________________ 205 gti6 now sold up, but gonna stick around and see whats what |
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Posted 20th Jul 2012 at 23:54
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cress87
Seasoned Pro  Location: Norwich Registered: 30 Mar 2007 Posts: 11,360 Status: Offline |
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ian7675 wrote: it's not like they've ever designed any cars that would self ingest manifold parts They've done their bit to discourage diesel ownership, which can only be a good thing. Also, the GTi-6 owners club should be careful who they criticise given your cam belts started snapping at about half the interval Peugeot recommended. ________________________________________  You feed beefburgers to swans.  I may have been speeding Mr Policeman but [a] I live for the 306 and [b] did you see that dog? omfg |
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Posted 21st Jul 2012 at 01:14
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ian7675
Techno Viking Location: Gloucestershire Registered: 12 Oct 2007 Posts: 6,068 Status: Offline |
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cress87 wrote: ian7675 wrote: it's not like they've ever designed any cars that would self ingest manifold parts They've done their bit to discourage diesel ownership, which can only be a good thing. Also, the GTi-6 owners club should be careful who they criticise given your cam belts started snapping at about half the interval Peugeot recommended. It certainly put me off diesels, although the modern ones should be sorted on that matter. Your second point is a very good one to be fair ________________________________________ Less than 24 hours to go! |
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Posted 21st Jul 2012 at 13:25
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Matt_rallye
Regular  Location: Bournemouth Registered: 09 Jul 2012 Posts: 468 Status: Offline |
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This is actually crazy! Didn't realise it could be so easy too steal a BMW with the right equipment |
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Posted 21st Jul 2012 at 14:08
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