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 davewagon
Senior User  Location: Corby / Northampton Registered: 21 Feb 2007 Posts: 889 Status: Offline |
Post #1
Just come across these:Mtec stud & nuts and was wondering if anyone knew whether they were sh*t or not - can't be that bad surely? Anyone know which particular stud length you need for cyclones (60mm, 80mm, 100mm etc) and if 60degree tapered bolts are the ones i'm after? Cheers, Dave ________________________________________ Team: Moonstone GTI-6™Team: ian7675 wrote: Remember....a 6 isn't just a car, it's a part time job  |
 Posted 17th Jul 2012 at 14:02
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro  Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,901 Status: Offline |
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These would be handy with the big Brembos, as any old tyre changing monkey will throw the wheels on and scrape the paint in the calipers I reckon. Are other types ones where you drill the threads out and they fit in from the back of the hub with a round head on? ________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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Posted 17th Jul 2012 at 14:03
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manthos
Seasoned Pro  Location: Norwich Registered: 29 Apr 2009 Posts: 1,966 Status: Offline |
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I don't know of the quality of these but i think it is a great idea________________________________________ Team SUPERCHARGED I LIVE FOR THE 306 Old Project thread Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url = |
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Posted 17th Jul 2012 at 14:07
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davewagon
Senior User Location: Corby / Northampton Registered: 21 Feb 2007 Posts: 889 Status: Offline |
Post #4
Pfft, don't know about drilling hubs out?These should just screw all the way in I believe? ________________________________________ Team: Moonstone GTI-6™Team: ian7675 wrote: Remember....a 6 isn't just a car, it's a part time job |
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Posted 17th Jul 2012 at 14:10
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manthos
Seasoned Pro Location: Norwich Registered: 29 Apr 2009 Posts: 1,966 Status: Offline |
Post #5
I've never heard of drilling the hubs out this is the only way i personaly know of________________________________________ Team SUPERCHARGED I LIVE FOR THE 306 Old Project thread Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url = |
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Posted 17th Jul 2012 at 14:13
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,901 Status: Offline |
Post #6
Until I seen these I just always thought that to change them to studs tthey fitted from the back and looks like a big steel rivet from the bak of the hub, like when a car leaves factory with them. ________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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Posted 17th Jul 2012 at 14:15
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davewagon
Senior User Location: Corby / Northampton Registered: 21 Feb 2007 Posts: 889 Status: Offline |
Post #7
We've had the idea before:way back when ... just a bit more expensive? ________________________________________ Team: Moonstone GTI-6™Team: ian7675 wrote: Remember....a 6 isn't just a car, it's a part time job |
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Posted 17th Jul 2012 at 14:18
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #8
more expensive but worth it ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 17th Jul 2012 at 14:38
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davewagon
Senior User Location: Corby / Northampton Registered: 21 Feb 2007 Posts: 889 Status: Offline |
Post #9
Yeah, I saw you were championing them earlier, but it seems that deal is done now and no more word from the chap?________________________________________ Team: Moonstone GTI-6™Team: ian7675 wrote: Remember....a 6 isn't just a car, it's a part time job |
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Posted 17th Jul 2012 at 14:43
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #10
I've seen him post elsewhere  ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 17th Jul 2012 at 14:43
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owain
Seasoned Pro  Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
Post #11
Personally I'd say those are a bit cheap, when I looked before the only set I found that came recommended in any way was £100 or so. The problem with those is that "high tensile" can mean anything 8.8 upwards, and you really want 12.9 to do it properly. Although the steel might have the tensile strength, cheaper steel won't handle having wheels repeatedly put on and off, the threads will get all mashed up and then the bolts won't be on as tight as they should be. For me, it's always about risk versus consequences - yes, there's a fairly small chance that they'll snap, unless you're doing lots of track work. However, if they *do* go wrong, you're talking about slamming your car into the ground, probably screwing up your suspension, wishbones and tracking and most likely landing in a ditch. Not something to skimp on IMO. ________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 17th Jul 2012 at 14:55
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clen666
Seasoned Pro  Location: Co. Durham Registered: 12 Feb 2009 Posts: 2,401 Status: Offline |
Post #12
welshpug! wrote: I've seen him post elsewhere Where? I've not managed to find him ________________________________________ Team 'unintentional rat look' |
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Posted 17th Jul 2012 at 15:02
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davewagon
Senior User Location: Corby / Northampton Registered: 21 Feb 2007 Posts: 889 Status: Offline |
Post #13
Way to kill my buzz Owain lolIf i ever track my car, I'd gladly pay the premium for 12.9 strength steel, just cant't seem to find it anywhere - although if we can track down the previous guy to do it, i'd may be tempted now. Am i correct about the nuts though, tapered or flat seated fro cyclones? ________________________________________ Team: Moonstone GTI-6™Team: ian7675 wrote: Remember....a 6 isn't just a car, it's a part time job |
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Posted 17th Jul 2012 at 15:47
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owain
Seasoned Pro Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
Post #14
davewagon wrote: Way to kill my buzz Owain  I'm Buzz Killington. davewagon wrote: Am i correct about the nuts though, tapered or flat seated fro cyclones? Can't remember, haven't had them in years. ________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 17th Jul 2012 at 15:48
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hismastersfinger11
Regular  Location: swindon Registered: 29 Nov 2007 Posts: 434 Status: Offline |
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Flat seated for clones________________________________________ This site is my mechanical bible, Thank-you everyone!! |
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Posted 17th Jul 2012 at 16:10
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davewagon
Senior User Location: Corby / Northampton Registered: 21 Feb 2007 Posts: 889 Status: Offline |
Post #16
________________________________________ Team: Moonstone GTI-6™Team: ian7675 wrote: Remember....a 6 isn't just a car, it's a part time job |
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Posted 17th Jul 2012 at 16:12
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #17
have posted on his thread on 106 RR forum see if he's still doing them, afaik he is.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 17th Jul 2012 at 16:28
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clen666
Seasoned Pro Location: Co. Durham Registered: 12 Feb 2009 Posts: 2,401 Status: Offline |
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Posted 17th Jul 2012 at 17:02
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,901 Status: Offline |
Post #19
Buzz?________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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Posted 17th Jul 2012 at 17:03
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smegal
Seasoned Pro  Location: Leeds Registered: 26 Dec 2005 Posts: 5,940 Status: Offline |
Post #20
I have a set of Gratston ones on mine and love them. I know that they are REALLY cheap but they have served me well over the span of a year. At the end of the day all you are doing is loctiting them into the hub and winding nuts on to them at the same torque as you would do with bolts. Peugeot bolts seem to be made fo chocolate so these studs won't be worse than that. ________________________________________ Ex SC-6Now in a Megane R26 |
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Posted 18th Jul 2012 at 16:09
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davewagon
Senior User Location: Corby / Northampton Registered: 21 Feb 2007 Posts: 889 Status: Offline |
Post #21
yeah there is some good logic there I suppose.Might just go for them if other options don't present themselves, i'm not doing track days or hooning about (much), if I ever were, i would probably fork out for 12.9 steel ones. ________________________________________ Team: Moonstone GTI-6™Team: ian7675 wrote: Remember....a 6 isn't just a car, it's a part time job |
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Posted 19th Jul 2012 at 20:42
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dum-dum
Regular  Location: Hayes Registered: 24 Nov 2008 Posts: 122 Status: Offline |
Post #22
I had a stud and nut conversion on my last HDi and it was such a help getting wheels on and off. I was using "Toyota style" wheel nuts with a Peugeot thread cut in them as they're actually a better fit in Peugeot wheels than proper Peugeot spec nuts.I got mine from https://www.speedshack.co.uk for a very reasonable price. ________________________________________ Bianca GTi6 on Gold wheels. Let the haters hate. |
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Posted 20th Jul 2012 at 02:19
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #23
he is still doing them, you can PM him on the 106 RR ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 20th Jul 2012 at 11:03
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ballardpaul
Seasoned Pro  Location: Croydon Registered: 22 Jul 2008 Posts: 4,135 Status: Offline |
Post #24
Did he give you a price? ________________________________________ Phase 2 Blaze GTi 6 (Standard) SoldPhase 3 Supercharged China GTi 6 (249.8 BHP) Sold Phase 3 Supercharged Diablo GTi 6 (443 BHP)Sold Nissan 350Z (300 BHP) |
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Posted 20th Jul 2012 at 12:27
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #25
http://www.106rallyeforum.com/forum2008/showthread.php?t=70827&highlight=stud quote: Stud lengths are 65mm, 80mm and 100mm. Designed/manufactured to meet/exceed 12.9 fastener grade. OEM peugeot/citroen are 10.9 and god knows what the grayston ones are but they didnt last on mine! 60 degree Taper nuts only as flat face nuts are still being made but will arrive in a couple of weeks tops. There are two nut coatings available chrome coating and a dacromet finish. Both have good corrosion properties but the dacromet is a dull grey colour and chrome is shiney obviously. I have personally fitted the dacromet ones to my car for the sleeper look but know many of you will prefer the chrome oem look. As i have limited numbers it will be on a first come first served basis for coating choice. Studs have a domed finish to aid nut starting and the threads on studs and nut are very good/clean.   Prices are as follows:- Delivered to UK mainland & NI only. If your not covered by this then pm me for a quote for postage costs. Taper nuts (set of 16) with following stud lengths:- 65mm = £90 80mm = £95 100mm = £97.50 Flat nuts (when theyre in) (set of 16) with following stud lengths:- 65mm = £95 80mm = £100 100mm = £102.50 Studs only (set of 16) 65mm = £36 80mm = £40 100mm = £44 Taper Nuts (set of 16) £56 Flat Nuts (when theyre in) (set of 16) £60. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 20th Jul 2012 at 12:56
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