Time for a new leaf.. I'm thinking of starting my own bodyshop. Custom and restoration.
Where do I start?
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dan86
Senior User Location: Bideford Registered: 10 May 2009 Posts: 548 Status: Offline |
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F#cking great... Just been to work for a meeting, only to be told that I've been made redundant!Time for a new leaf.. I'm thinking of starting my own bodyshop. Custom and restoration. Where do I start? ________________________________________ |
Posted 10th Jul 2012 at 11:34
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heliosphan
Senior User Location: UK Registered: 14 Sep 2007 Posts: 950 Status: Offline |
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Sorry to hear that mate, bad times... |
Posted 10th Jul 2012 at 11:38
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midlife
Seasoned Pro Location: Colne, Lancashire Registered: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 7,544 Status: Offline |
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Premises, location is vitalSorry to hear this ________________________________________ Get used to seeing the yellow one !!!Team 330™ Team "no front end or engine" Team "LIMITED EDITION" I live for the 306 sticker Team 0-60 in 6.44 & standing qtr in 14.808 @ 94.55mph all with std engine 203bhp Corolla T-Sport daily driver stealthier than Kwai Chang Caine |
Posted 10th Jul 2012 at 11:38
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
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Could be the best thing that ever happened to you mate You clearly have a gift in that subject. Go for it________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
Posted 10th Jul 2012 at 11:38
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yippeekayay
Seasoned Pro Location: wilts Registered: 27 Oct 2008 Posts: 4,144 Status: Offline |
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eliotrw wrote: couldn't agree more... every cloud has a silver lining and all that and you obviously have an ability/ talent. Search around other body shops and ask to rent a booth for a while to get yourself off the ground. Good luck mate and believe in yourself....Could be the best thing that ever happened to you mate You clearly have a gift in that subject. Go for it ________________________________________ 306 less for first time in nearly 7 years. Lets keep it that way... please refuse any offers i make to buy your 306 ( doctors letter supplied by request)Marmite and cheese sandwiches anyone??? Burns and Mcrae will be forever missed. x box "yippeekayaymofo" |
Posted 10th Jul 2012 at 11:57
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matt evans
Seasoned Pro Location: Stourbridge Registered: 16 Sep 2009 Posts: 2,290 Status: Offline |
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Dan, you know you'd have the backing of us lot considering the quality of your work on the sedan conversion.As with any new start business, concentrate on cash flow, overheads and where your customers are gonna come from. Where are you geographically? Much competition? I had my own business for 4 years and wound it up because the overheads/advertising/location was getting too much, but i walked away clean, owed no-one anything. You can paint my astor when your ready! ________________________________________ 1999 Astor Grey GTi-6 OEM+ (now gone...)2004 Aegean Blue 206 GTi 180 (also gone...) 2006 Skoda Fabia vRS in Sprint Yellow honestly3k wrote: Do you wrestle for a living matt? You sound like a monster owain wrote: Nothing involving a 306 can be considered worthwhile. |
Posted 10th Jul 2012 at 11:59
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yippeekayay
Seasoned Pro Location: wilts Registered: 27 Oct 2008 Posts: 4,144 Status: Offline |
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Then my miami 205!!!________________________________________ 306 less for first time in nearly 7 years. Lets keep it that way... please refuse any offers i make to buy your 306 ( doctors letter supplied by request)Marmite and cheese sandwiches anyone??? Burns and Mcrae will be forever missed. x box "yippeekayaymofo" |
Posted 10th Jul 2012 at 12:08
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arigti6
Seasoned Pro Location: Wiltshire Registered: 24 Jan 2010 Posts: 2,365 Status: Offline |
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Gutted for you Dan, been made redundant and let down by employers myself so many times. Good luck with the vencher, I would certainly be willing to chuck some work your way in the future if all goes well... ________________________________________ I Live for the 306TEAM CHERRY PINK RALLYE 2008 BMW ///M 320d |
Posted 10th Jul 2012 at 12:22
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dan86
Senior User Location: Bideford Registered: 10 May 2009 Posts: 548 Status: Offline |
Post #9
Thanks for the support guys. It makes a sh#tty situation seem much more promising. If I had a booth, I would gladly repaint your cars. I couldn't think of a more satisfying job! I do live in quite a remote part of the country though which isn't ideal. Not a lot goes on in sleepy North Devon. There are three or four bodyshops in the area but they mainly do insurance work which is probably for good reason; cashflow. There is a bodyshop that will do resprays but I've seen the work and frankly I could see blemishes/bad masking just walking up to the car. Bad considering it was a £2000 repaint on a premium car (850 ci). ________________________________________ |
Posted 10th Jul 2012 at 12:23
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #10
£2k seems cheap these days tbh.It sounds like you are erring more towards the restoration side of stuff, would you be taking on mechanical as well? it sounds like you need some kind of difference to the other businesses otherwise you would be competing directly against them. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
Posted 10th Jul 2012 at 12:35
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wilyoldave
Seasoned Pro Location: Yeovil Registered: 21 Apr 2007 Posts: 1,642 Status: Offline |
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Sorry to hear this mate - what about valeting as well as the bodyshop stuff? Maybe do mobile valeting? You obviousley know your way around paintwork so is this a possibility?(my Rallye needs a m/c polish!) ________________________________________ No more peugeotsSnap - no more RS clio Now Ph1 RS clio |
Posted 10th Jul 2012 at 12:42
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milkyb
Seasoned Pro Location: West London Registered: 30 Mar 2012 Posts: 1,056 Status: Offline |
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Sorry to hear mate...come to London, |
Posted 10th Jul 2012 at 12:44
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yippeekayay
Seasoned Pro Location: wilts Registered: 27 Oct 2008 Posts: 4,144 Status: Offline |
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wilyoldave wrote: got any dent master or similar experience.... seems a good job these days. Go mobile and find a share booth for bigger jobs??Sorry to hear this mate - what about valeting as well as the bodyshop stuff? Maybe do mobile valeting? You obviousley know your way around paintwork so is this a possibility? (my Rallye needs a m/c polish!) ________________________________________ 306 less for first time in nearly 7 years. Lets keep it that way... please refuse any offers i make to buy your 306 ( doctors letter supplied by request)Marmite and cheese sandwiches anyone??? Burns and Mcrae will be forever missed. x box "yippeekayaymofo" |
Posted 10th Jul 2012 at 13:02
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iplay
Seasoned Pro Location: Number Wang Registered: 18 May 2006 Posts: 3,268 Status: Offline |
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dan86 wrote: F#cking great... Just been to work for a meeting, only to be told that I've been made redundant! Time for a new leaf.. I'm thinking of starting my own bodyshop. Custom and restoration. Where do I start? Down the pub for a start ... From next Tuesday I need your skills in my garage for 2-4 weeks. Do you like J 2's ? |
Posted 10th Jul 2012 at 16:27
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owain
Seasoned Pro Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
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matt evans wrote: As with any new start business, concentrate on cash flow, overheads and where your customers are gonna come from. Where are you geographically? Much competition? Absolutely, totally this. I appreciate everyone's trying to help by encouraging you to dive straight in, but that's the absolute worst thing you can possibly do. I'm setting up a company at the moment, so I've just gone through this and it's really not something that should be done lightly. In order to succeed, you need to be one of the following things: 1) Cheaper than your competition 2) Better than your competition 3) Be the only one offering similar products to your audience Just because you *want* to do something doesn't mean it's a good idea; if there are already established body shops about who do a similar thing for a similar price, your business will fail and you'll lose the thousands of pounds it takes you to set up; most customers will go back to the same place time and time again, people won't flock to you because you're new. Don't get me wrong I think everyone should own their own business if they really want to, but if it's to succeed you need to do a serious amount of market research first, and be prepared to just bin the idea if it's not working out. You need to figure out what you can afford to live on, what your costs will be (not just "I'll find a garage somewhere" ) and what profits you can make. If you have bills to pay I'd strongly suggest finding any old McJob in the meantime while you plan your company, it'll be a few months before it's all up and running properly. If you honestly think deep down that you can do it, then do the research and prove you can do it. Best of luck matey, honestly. Working for yourself is fantastic, if a little scary. All the more reason to get it right. ________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
Posted 10th Jul 2012 at 16:41
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antcla.85
Senior User Location: Southampton Registered: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 580 Status: Offline |
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dan86 wrote: I do live in quite a remote part of the country though which isn't ideal. Not a lot goes on in sleepy North Devon. There are three or four bodyshops in the area but they mainly do insurance work which is probably for good reason; cashflow. I was in bideford all last week on holiday in the sun. Nearly needed a body shop as left my handbreak slightly of my new car and it rolled down the drive and through the gates with two inches each side. ________________________________________ Life is short, make it interestingBuy a Peugeot! |
Posted 10th Jul 2012 at 16:58
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martinh
Seasoned Pro Location: Bideford Registered: 08 Dec 2006 Posts: 1,274 Status: Offline |
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Really sorry to hear that mate. Judging by your work I dont think you'll have any competition in Bideford, There's only one bodyshop that is any good in my opinion, the rest are s**te!Just thinking, you know where you picked the bits up from me, well there's a proper commercial spraybooth at the end of those units and my mate is looking at renting the majority of the yard/workshops out....... |
Posted 10th Jul 2012 at 20:08
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mechanical_repairs
Seasoned Pro Location: leicester Registered: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 12,122 Status: Offline |
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You sure have a talent that's for sure, the sedan looked great, as said advertising, rent and all the associated can be a headache but doing something you love and getting a wage out of it is a great feeling..What have you got to loose, if you don't have a go, you will never know. Carl ________________________________________ C.G.Cars of Leicester, Peugeot/Citroen/Renault specialist Tel: 01162 624498/07799 405184 WWW.CGCARSLEICESTER.CO.UK36 narborough road south, Leicester LE3 2fn MOT station now open, tests £35 with a free retest. Recovery available with a recovery unit, for those not so local jobs Also offer the loan of a free courtesy car 306 dturbo |
Posted 10th Jul 2012 at 20:21
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lee_gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: Kent Registered: 29 Jan 2005 Posts: 1,147 Status: Offline |
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Sorry to hear,But as they say where one door closes another opens. ________________________________________ Proud member of the Astor owners clubTeam Charged Swirl pot and silly boost kit for sale |
Posted 10th Jul 2012 at 20:44
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #20
I think you should give it a go, providing it's right for you in as much as you can still afford to live whilst the business is in the early stages, obviously this is the most important factor.Good luck in whatever you decide. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
Posted 11th Jul 2012 at 08:17
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dan86
Senior User Location: Bideford Registered: 10 May 2009 Posts: 548 Status: Offline |
Post #21
Thanks for all your input guys. A lot of valid points and good advice as always from you lot. On the one hand I know the sensible thing to do is to find a day job and do a bit on the side to start me off, and then on the other I feel the urge to just go for it. The fact that I'm unsure kind of says it all. I think I will have to start stacking shelves at the local Tesco! ________________________________________ |
Posted 11th Jul 2012 at 11:07
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dangti6
aka JKshooter Location: Taunton, Somerset Registered: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 10,305 Status: Offline |
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You don't sound like a risk taker.I think if I was you I would seek another job to get some money coming in, and then try and slowly start offering some services in your spare time. Let it grow. If it doesn't grow then you haven't put all your eggs in one basket. ________________________________________ |
Posted 11th Jul 2012 at 11:09
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yippeekayay
Seasoned Pro Location: wilts Registered: 27 Oct 2008 Posts: 4,144 Status: Offline |
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Dont start modifying the shelves though ..... they wont like that... good luck mate.. A decent painter has always been sought after and am sure 1the or 2 jobs a week will pay more than shelf filling. Have a tour round the body shops and see if you can use anyone paint booths as and when you have a job. Might be a good lead to one of the shops employing you or be self employed through them. ________________________________________ 306 less for first time in nearly 7 years. Lets keep it that way... please refuse any offers i make to buy your 306 ( doctors letter supplied by request)Marmite and cheese sandwiches anyone??? Burns and Mcrae will be forever missed. x box "yippeekayaymofo" |
Posted 11th Jul 2012 at 11:15
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dan86
Senior User Location: Bideford Registered: 10 May 2009 Posts: 548 Status: Offline |
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yippeekayay wrote: Dont start modifying the shelves though ..... they wont like that... I wouldn't touch the shelves, trollies on the other hand..... I built quite a good relationship (working) with the guys at the paintshop where I painted the sedan. Maybe we're on to something.. ________________________________________ |
Posted 11th Jul 2012 at 11:30
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matt evans
Seasoned Pro Location: Stourbridge Registered: 16 Sep 2009 Posts: 2,290 Status: Offline |
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Plus working for yourself can be a real strain on many other parts of your life. Are you married? Kids? Luckily for me i've got the most supportive and understanding missus in the world, cos i was doing stupid hours a week and weekends working just to put food on the table, she never complained at all.Plus you can never switch off, have holidays without worrying and stuff like that, especially when you're on your own. I have no regrets at all working for myself, but next time my eyes would be wide open to all the stuff you can gloss over in the initial excitement the first time round. Research and patience is the key. ________________________________________ 1999 Astor Grey GTi-6 OEM+ (now gone...)2004 Aegean Blue 206 GTi 180 (also gone...) 2006 Skoda Fabia vRS in Sprint Yellow honestly3k wrote: Do you wrestle for a living matt? You sound like a monster owain wrote: Nothing involving a 306 can be considered worthwhile. |
Posted 11th Jul 2012 at 11:31
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