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dan86

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Post #1
F#cking great... Just been to work for a meeting, only to be told that I've been made redundant!

Time for a new leaf.. I'm thinking of starting my own bodyshop. Custom and restoration.

Where do I start?

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Posted 10th Jul 2012 at 11:34
heliosphan

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Sorry to hear that mate, bad times... Sad
Posted 10th Jul 2012 at 11:38
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Sorry to hear thisSad

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Posted 10th Jul 2012 at 11:38
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Could be the best thing that ever happened to you mate Smile You clearly have a gift in that subject. Go for it

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Posted 10th Jul 2012 at 11:38
yippeekayay

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eliotrw wrote:
Could be the best thing that ever happened to you mate Smile You clearly have a gift in that subject. Go for it
couldn't agree more... every cloud has a silver lining and all that and you obviously have an ability/ talent. Search around other body shops and ask to rent a booth for a while to get yourself off the ground. Good luck mate and believe in yourself....

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Posted 10th Jul 2012 at 11:57
matt evans

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Dan, you know you'd have the backing of us lot considering the quality of your work on the sedan conversion.

As with any new start business, concentrate on cash flow, overheads and where your customers are gonna come from. Where are you geographically? Much competition?

I had my own business for 4 years and wound it up because the overheads/advertising/location was getting too much, but i walked away clean, owed no-one anything.

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Posted 10th Jul 2012 at 11:59
yippeekayay

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Then my miami 205!!!

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Marmite and cheese sandwiches anyone???

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Posted 10th Jul 2012 at 12:08
arigti6

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Gutted for you Dan, been made redundant and let down by employers myself so many times. Sad

Good luck with the vencher, I would certainly be willing to chuck some work your way in the future if all goes well... Smile

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Posted 10th Jul 2012 at 12:22
dan86

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Thanks for the support guys. It makes a sh#tty situation seem much more promising.

If I had a booth, I would gladly repaint your cars. I couldn't think of a more satisfying job!

I do live in quite a remote part of the country though which isn't ideal. Not a lot goes on in sleepy North Devon.
There are three or four bodyshops in the area but they mainly do insurance work which is probably for good reason; cashflow.

There is a bodyshop that will do resprays but I've seen the work and frankly I could see blemishes/bad masking just walking up to the car. Bad considering it was a £2000 repaint on a premium car (850 ci).

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Posted 10th Jul 2012 at 12:23
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£2k seems cheap these days tbh.


It sounds like you are erring more towards the restoration side of stuff, would you be taking on mechanical as well? it sounds like you need some kind of difference to the other businesses otherwise you would be competing directly against them.

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Posted 10th Jul 2012 at 12:35
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Sorry to hear this mate - what about valeting as well as the bodyshop stuff? Maybe do mobile valeting? You obviousley know your way around paintwork so is this a possibility?

(my Rallye needs a m/c polish!LOL)

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Posted 10th Jul 2012 at 12:42
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Sorry to hear mate

...come to London,
Posted 10th Jul 2012 at 12:44
yippeekayay

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wilyoldave wrote:
Sorry to hear this mate - what about valeting as well as the bodyshop stuff? Maybe do mobile valeting? You obviousley know your way around paintwork so is this a possibility?

(my Rallye needs a m/c polish!LOL)

got any dent master or similar experience.... seems a good job these days. Go mobile and find a share booth for bigger jobs??

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Marmite and cheese sandwiches anyone???

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Posted 10th Jul 2012 at 13:02
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dan86 wrote:
F#cking great... Just been to work for a meeting, only to be told that I've been made redundant!

Time for a new leaf.. I'm thinking of starting my own bodyshop. Custom and restoration.

Where do I start?


Down the pub for a start ... From next Tuesday I need your skills in my garage for 2-4 weeks. Thumbs up
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Posted 10th Jul 2012 at 16:27
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matt evans wrote:
As with any new start business, concentrate on cash flow, overheads and where your customers are gonna come from. Where are you geographically? Much competition?


Absolutely, totally this. I appreciate everyone's trying to help by encouraging you to dive straight in, but that's the absolute worst thing you can possibly do. I'm setting up a company at the moment, so I've just gone through this and it's really not something that should be done lightly.

In order to succeed, you need to be one of the following things:

1) Cheaper than your competition
2) Better than your competition
3) Be the only one offering similar products to your audience

Just because you *want* to do something doesn't mean it's a good idea; if there are already established body shops about who do a similar thing for a similar price, your business will fail and you'll lose the thousands of pounds it takes you to set up; most customers will go back to the same place time and time again, people won't flock to you because you're new.

Don't get me wrong I think everyone should own their own business if they really want to, but if it's to succeed you need to do a serious amount of market research first, and be prepared to just bin the idea if it's not working out.

You need to figure out what you can afford to live on, what your costs will be (not just "I'll find a garage somewhere" ) and what profits you can make.

If you have bills to pay I'd strongly suggest finding any old McJob in the meantime while you plan your company, it'll be a few months before it's all up and running properly.

If you honestly think deep down that you can do it, then do the research and prove you can do it. Best of luck matey, honestly. Working for yourself is fantastic, if a little scary. All the more reason to get it right.

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Posted 10th Jul 2012 at 16:41
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dan86 wrote:
I do live in quite a remote part of the country though which isn't ideal. Not a lot goes on in sleepy North Devon.
There are three or four bodyshops in the area but they mainly do insurance work which is probably for good reason; cashflow.


I was in bideford all last week on holiday in the sun. Nearly needed a body shop as left my handbreak slightly of my new car and it rolled down the drive and through the gates with two inches each side.

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Posted 10th Jul 2012 at 16:58
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Really sorry to hear that mate. Judging by your work I dont think you'll have any competition in Bideford, There's only one bodyshop that is any good in my opinion, the rest are s**te!

Just thinking, you know where you picked the bits up from me, well there's a proper commercial spraybooth at the end of those units and my mate is looking at renting the majority of the yard/workshops out.......
Posted 10th Jul 2012 at 20:08
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You sure have a talent that's for sure, the sedan looked great, as said advertising, rent and all the associated can be a headache but doing something you love and getting a wage out of it is a great feeling..

What have you got to loose, if you don't have a go, you will never know.

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Posted 10th Jul 2012 at 20:21
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Sorry to hear,

But as they say where one door closes another opens. Thumbs up

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Posted 10th Jul 2012 at 20:44
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I think you should give it a go, providing it's right for you in as much as you can still afford to live whilst the business is in the early stages, obviously this is the most important factor.

Good luck in whatever you decide. Thumbs up

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Posted 11th Jul 2012 at 08:17
dan86

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Thanks for all your input guys. A lot of valid points and good advice as always from you lot. Thumbs up

On the one hand I know the sensible thing to do is to find a day job and do a bit on the side to start me off, and then on the other I feel the urge to just go for it.

The fact that I'm unsure kind of says it all. I think I will have to start stacking shelves at the local Tesco!

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Posted 11th Jul 2012 at 11:07
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You don't sound like a risk taker.

I think if I was you I would seek another job to get some money coming in, and then try and slowly start offering some services in your spare time. Let it grow. If it doesn't grow then you haven't put all your eggs in one basket.

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  • Posted 11th Jul 2012 at 11:09
    yippeekayay

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    Dont start modifying the shelves though ..... they wont like that... good luck mate.. A decent painter has always been sought after and am sure 1the or 2 jobs a week will pay more than shelf filling. Have a tour round the body shops and see if you can use anyone paint booths as and when you have a job. Might be a good lead to one of the shops employing you or be self employed through them.

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    306 less for first time in nearly 7 years. Lets keep it that way... please refuse any offers i make to buy your 306 ( doctors letter supplied by request)

    Marmite and cheese sandwiches anyone???

    Burns and Mcrae will be forever missed.
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    Posted 11th Jul 2012 at 11:15
    dan86

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    yippeekayay wrote:
    Dont start modifying the shelves though ..... they wont like that...


    I wouldn't touch the shelves, trollies on the other hand.....

    I built quite a good relationship (working) with the guys at the paintshop where I painted the sedan. Maybe we're on to something..

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    Posted 11th Jul 2012 at 11:30
    matt evans

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    Plus working for yourself can be a real strain on many other parts of your life. Are you married? Kids? Luckily for me i've got the most supportive and understanding missus in the world, cos i was doing stupid hours a week and weekends working just to put food on the table, she never complained at all.

    Plus you can never switch off, have holidays without worrying and stuff like that, especially when you're on your own.

    I have no regrets at all working for myself, but next time my eyes would be wide open to all the stuff you can gloss over in the initial excitement the first time round.

    Research and patience is the key.

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    Nothing involving a 306 can be considered worthwhile.

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