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pete26

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Hi chaps wondering if anyone could assist me. basicly came to the end of my journey, parked the car and turned the car off. but it kept running? it has been idleing pretty s**t recently anyways. so i take the key out of the ignition. engine Still running and blip the throttle and the engine turns off. ? and bit of a strange one? .ICV? Sensor problem? i will give the idle control valve a clean in my lunch break. certainly could do with it just havent got round to it.. Cheers Pete

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Posted 4th Jul 2012 at 07:30

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WTF? Actually running, or just coughing to a halt? If it's the former, you have serious electrical problems.

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Posted 4th Jul 2012 at 07:43

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Still running when igintion key is out. then blip the throttle and everything switchs off as normal. has only just started doing it yesturday. Bad earth maybe?

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Posted 4th Jul 2012 at 07:50

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But with the key out the engine should have no fuel, no spark and absolutely no way of running.

We can only assume your engine now defies physics Dunno

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Posted 4th Jul 2012 at 07:52

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I had something similar some years ago. Had to stall it to cut the engine. Within a couple of days it didnt start at all.

If memeroy serves, its was a damaged/faulty fuel pump relay, on the back of the ECU

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Posted 4th Jul 2012 at 08:22

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Just took it out and its fine again. fuel pump primes and everything. turned off on the key first time. Dunno

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Posted 4th Jul 2012 at 08:26

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Is there a fuel pump solonoid or anything? If it could possibly be sticking?

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Posted 4th Jul 2012 at 08:26

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Is there a fuel pump solonoid or anything? If it could possibly be sticking?

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Posted 4th Jul 2012 at 08:26

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probably the fuel pump relay or damaged wiring to it somewhere.

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Posted 4th Jul 2012 at 09:11

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That would make sense as to why it's still getting fuel maybe, but how would it be sparking?

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Posted 4th Jul 2012 at 09:13

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welshpug! wrote:

probably the fuel pump relay or damaged wiring to it somewhere.

welshoug do you know where the fuel pump relay is located?
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Posted 4th Jul 2012 at 09:15

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welshpug! wrote:

probably the fuel pump relay or damaged wiring to it somewhere.

aweeee.... now that you say that

i had similar issues with my car a few years ago, happened a few times iirc
bought diff and a few other items also wanted engine bay painted so took engine out
ended up replacing my engine wiring loom as fuel pump would not prime at all after i put it all back together
my auto electrician believed i had damaged/fatigued wires near the double fuel relay
wonder if the two faults were related

never had that issue since

pete26 wrote:

do you know where the fuel pump relay is located?

behind ecu, usually attached to outside of the battery box near engine bulkhead
more commonly hanging down as the plastic cover of the relay will have snapped (common problem, doesnt necessarily mean the relay is broken or needing replaced)

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Posted 4th Jul 2012 at 09:17

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should be clipped to the rear of the battery box, mine came loose once and sat on the exhaust maniflod, ICV went potty, rev counter stopped working, but engine drove fine.

feasible for the relay to stick on with the switched live turned off, try another relay first.

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Posted 4th Jul 2012 at 09:27

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Mind you it could be an igintion barrel problem. Because when i take the key out. Everything on the dash is still lit up. so im guessing the ignition is still live? and when i blip the throttle to cut the engine out . I reckon its proply burning whats left of the fuel in the system and the amobiliser is doing its job and cutting the fuel???

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I had this with my saxo,turned out the ignition barrel was knackered

Posted 4th Jul 2012 at 09:40

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roland rat wrote:

I had this with my saxo,turned out the ignition barrel was knackered

This would make more sense. Fuel or no fuel, removing the key should cut the ignition immediately. If the engine carries on running, it's still getting a spark. Perhaps if it was a diesel you could argue it's keeping itself going as it just needs maintained compression to ignite, but not on a petrol.

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pete26 wrote:

welshpug! wrote:

probably the fuel pump relay or damaged wiring to it somewhere.

welshoug do you know where the fuel pump relay is located?
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As I said in a previous earlier post, Its a little module on the back of the ECU. So in sequence from frotn to back - battery, ECU, little fuel pump rely, bulkhead Thumbs up

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Super slow typing Doh

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It will be an ignition barrel fault, of this I'm pretty sure. Yes

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Posted 4th Jul 2012 at 11:47

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pete26

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I reckon stan or some sort of ignition loom failure. i all honesty i did find it quite confusing the first time it happened as im quite sleep deprived at the moment with a newbaby and that. i was like. didnt i turn that off?? lol

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Ignition barrel, it did it on my hdi other day, before jamming shut the next time I went to use it.

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