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 manthos
Seasoned Pro  Location: Norwich Registered: 29 Apr 2009 Posts: 1,966 Status: Offline |
Post #26
From what ive read on her you will need more than mild cams + a remap to get near 190________________________________________ Team SUPERCHARGED I LIVE FOR THE 306 Old Project thread Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url = |
 Posted 27th Jun 2012 at 00:22
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #27
fatlapit wrote: Dont pug1off do a package for this sort of power? Yes they do.  ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone  |
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Posted 27th Jun 2012 at 06:14
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #28
yeah, it includes cams and is a fair bit more than £200  ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 27th Jun 2012 at 08:50
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dangti6
aka JKshooter  Location: Taunton, Somerset Registered: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 10,305 Status: Offline |
Post #29
Who was it that did those fancy cam's claiming to add 25bhp?I'm tempted to get some cams before I get mine remapped but unsure which ones to go for. Ideally the best ones without needing any machining to pistons. Not sure if PH2's are the safe bet? ________________________________________  |
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Posted 27th Jun 2012 at 08:55
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fatlapit
Seasoned Pro  Location: STOCKSFIELD Registered: 02 Nov 2010 Posts: 3,040 Status: Offline |
Post #30
Lets be honest 200 will not get u alot________________________________________ |
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Posted 27th Jun 2012 at 08:57
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anth
Seasoned Pro  Location: Colchester Registered: 04 Apr 2006 Posts: 3,651 Status: Offline |
Post #31
An air filter maybe  |
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Posted 27th Jun 2012 at 09:51
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teo79
Junior User  Location: wrexham Registered: 15 Apr 2007 Posts: 56 Status: Offline |
Post #32
Pug1off sell catcams fast road cams that claim to give over 25bhp with a remap anyone got these cams in their 6?________________________________________ tjones |
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Posted 27th Jun 2012 at 13:33
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teo79
Junior User Location: wrexham Registered: 15 Apr 2007 Posts: 56 Status: Offline |
Post #33
The duration on them is 267 and 259 would that clear the pistons or would i need pockets? If so ill have to build an engine up if im guna start playing with internals poof goes the 200 quid budget! ________________________________________ tjones |
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Posted 27th Jun 2012 at 13:53
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ballardpaul
Seasoned Pro  Location: Croydon Registered: 22 Jul 2008 Posts: 4,135 Status: Offline |
Post #34
That's the reality of these engines, they're expensive to tune I'm afraid. ________________________________________ Phase 2 Blaze GTi 6 (Standard) SoldPhase 3 Supercharged China GTi 6 (249.8 BHP) Sold Phase 3 Supercharged Diablo GTi 6 (443 BHP)Sold Nissan 350Z (300 BHP) |
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Posted 27th Jun 2012 at 14:08
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dangti6
aka JKshooter Location: Taunton, Somerset Registered: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 10,305 Status: Offline |
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teo79 wrote: The duration on them is 267 and 259 would that clear the pistons or would i need pockets? If so ill have to build an engine up if im guna start playing with internals poof goes the 200 quid budget! New cambelt kit and waterpump would blow a nice chunk of that budget ________________________________________ |
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Posted 27th Jun 2012 at 14:08
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teo79
Junior User Location: wrexham Registered: 15 Apr 2007 Posts: 56 Status: Offline |
Post #36
Just fitted a new cam belt and waterpump a few weeks back not a problem! Anyone running this set up?________________________________________ tjones |
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Posted 27th Jun 2012 at 15:42
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #37
teo79 wrote: Just fitted a new cam belt and waterpump a few weeks back not a problem! Anyone running this set up? When you come to get the cams fitted though, you should still use a new belt. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 27th Jun 2012 at 19:14
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teo79
Junior User Location: wrexham Registered: 15 Apr 2007 Posts: 56 Status: Offline |
Post #38
will do i can get belts cheap through trade anyway so it wont hurt my wallet unlike the cams and remap will.________________________________________ tjones |
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Posted 27th Jun 2012 at 19:56
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #39
teo79 wrote: will do i can get belts cheap through trade anyway so it wont hurt my wallet unlike the cams and remap will.  Good stuff. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 27th Jun 2012 at 20:40
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey  Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #40
I wouldn't replace a cambelt that was only a month old. What exactly is going to happen to it? You remove the tension, pop the belt off, you install your cams etc. pop the belt back on an tension it up to the same as it was before. No additional stress to the belt, they don't just vaporise as soon as they are removed from the vehicle FFS. If it was a year old I'd change it while it was off for peace of mind but for crying out loud it's just a belt, not a poisonous snake. The way some people on here talk about them you would think it a wise precaution to swap belts every time you fill up with fuel!________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 28th Jun 2012 at 07:57
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
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daveyboy wrote: I wouldn't replace a cambelt that was only a month old. What exactly is going to happen to it? You remove the tension, pop the belt off, you install your cams etc. pop the belt back on an tension it up to the same as it was before. No additional stress to the belt, they don't just vaporise as soon as they are removed from the vehicle FFS. If it was a year old I'd change it while it was off for peace of mind but for crying out loud it's just a belt, not a poisonous snake. The way some people on here talk about them you would think it a wise precaution to swap belts every time you fill up with fuel! That's fine, it's an opinion and we are all entitled to one. Belt manufacturers will tell you that belts are only supposed to be tensioned the once, and once they have been removed should not be refitted and tensioned up and used for a second time. I'm sure many people do and have done for many years and never had problems. However, I am just giving the best advice to my knowledge in the topic of this thread.  ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 28th Jun 2012 at 09:45
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
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stan_306gti6 wrote: daveyboy wrote: I wouldn't replace a cambelt that was only a month old. What exactly is going to happen to it? You remove the tension, pop the belt off, you install your cams etc. pop the belt back on an tension it up to the same as it was before. No additional stress to the belt, they don't just vaporise as soon as they are removed from the vehicle FFS. If it was a year old I'd change it while it was off for peace of mind but for crying out loud it's just a belt, not a poisonous snake. The way some people on here talk about them you would think it a wise precaution to swap belts every time you fill up with fuel! That's fine, it's an opinion and we are all entitled to one. Belt manufacturers will tell you that belts are only supposed to be tensioned the once, and once they have been removed should not be refitted and tensioned up and used for a second time. I'm sure many people do and have done for many years and never had problems. However, I am just giving the best advice to my knowledge in the topic of this thread. I know they do, and I'm sure they like the fact that it helps to sell more belts, and it covers their liabilities, but come on, what actually happens to the belt when the tension is removed? You can't say tension change damages the belt as it goes through repeated cyclic tension change every revolution, the drive side will always be tight to a rapidly fluctuating degree as each cam lobe ramps up and compresses a valve spring, but the non drive return side will momentarily be on very little tension, the same thing will happen as valves close the load on the belt will diminish. If the belt is kinked or badly stressed during fitting then of course it should be discarded immediately, but fitted carefully and removed the same way it won't suffer at all. I'd not risk it on someone elses car, but under the same circumstances I'd be happy to do it myself. ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 28th Jun 2012 at 10:40
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smegal
Seasoned Pro  Location: Leeds Registered: 26 Dec 2005 Posts: 5,940 Status: Offline |
Post #43
Longlife exhausts also offer a remap service that promises the following gains:http://www.longlife.co.uk/engine-remapping/ 306 2.0 16v GTi 6 163HP 205Nm To 185HP 220Nm Slightly dubious myself but interesting that a relatively reputable company is offering this service. ________________________________________ Ex SC-6Now in a Megane R26 |
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Posted 28th Jun 2012 at 11:04
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teo79
Junior User Location: wrexham Registered: 15 Apr 2007 Posts: 56 Status: Offline |
Post #44
185bhp from just a remap would save me buying cams just had a look at longlife thanks for the link________________________________________ tjones |
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Posted 28th Jun 2012 at 21:08
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smegal
Seasoned Pro Location: Leeds Registered: 26 Dec 2005 Posts: 5,940 Status: Offline |
Post #45
teo79 wrote: 185bhp from just a remap would save me buying cams just had a look at longlife thanks for the link If you do it, try to get a before and after rolling road. ________________________________________ Ex SC-6Now in a Megane R26 |
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Posted 28th Jun 2012 at 21:56
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teo79
Junior User Location: wrexham Registered: 15 Apr 2007 Posts: 56 Status: Offline |
Post #46
if i do go for it i will try and get a before and after rr to show you all ill have to speak to them first and have a good think about what to do.________________________________________ tjones |
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Posted 28th Jun 2012 at 22:02
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teo79
Junior User Location: wrexham Registered: 15 Apr 2007 Posts: 56 Status: Offline |
Post #47
if i do go for it i will try and get a before and after rr to show you all ill have to speak to them first and have a good think about what to do.________________________________________ tjones |
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Posted 28th Jun 2012 at 22:02
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teo79
Junior User Location: wrexham Registered: 15 Apr 2007 Posts: 56 Status: Offline |
Post #48
if i do go for it i will try and get a before and after rr to show you all ill have to speak to them first and have a good think about what to do.________________________________________ tjones |
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Posted 28th Jun 2012 at 22:02
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miles
Seasoned Pro  Location: Ringwood Registered: 28 Dec 2002 Posts: 3,433 Status: Offline |
Post #49
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Posted 28th Jun 2012 at 23:29
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teo79
Junior User Location: wrexham Registered: 15 Apr 2007 Posts: 56 Status: Offline |
Post #50
I might still fit some cams before i go for a remap yet but i will get a proper independat rr done after the remap ________________________________________ tjones |
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Posted 29th Jun 2012 at 23:35
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