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astragsi237

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Woohoo Just got home from Norwich after picking up my second 6 Big grin

WOW,I forgot how well they pick up speed & how great they handle.

Got a massive grin on my face from the 3 hour drive back,Picked up a Silver phase 3 for £700.Overall its pretty clean just a few niggly bits to sort out.

After some advice as one of the major problems I've got with the car is the two fans aren't kicking in to stop the engine overheating??
My friend has had a quick look,taken the 3 relays out checked them & there fine,also checked theres power going to the fans with a multi meter but they just refuse to work.We are puzzled!

Any suggestions?

Ill add some pics up tomorrow Thumbs up

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Posted 23rd Jun 2012 at 20:58

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be a faulty temp sensor maybe? or a bitron unit fecked, try running a direct feed to the fans to see if they work, might be fecked, cant mind how a standard one is wired up again tho

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Posted 23rd Jun 2012 at 21:04

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Try unplugging the brown plug on the thermostat with the car running. Fans should come on high after a few seconds as a fail safe.

If they don't, the control unit above the horn needs replacing (common for them to go). I've got one I can sell you for £12 posted.

Posted 23rd Jun 2012 at 21:06

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as above plus one! took mine out the other day it never seems to dissapoint whats on tap!!

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Posted 23rd Jun 2012 at 21:11

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astragsi237

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Thanks guys ill give this a try first thing in the morning! Fingers crossed its a simple fix

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Posted 23rd Jun 2012 at 21:14

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If one of your fans has stopped working, then neither will work at half speed at 97C as they are wired in series...

As above, disconnect the brown sensor on the thermostat housing with the engine running and see which fans come on (if any).

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Posted 23rd Jun 2012 at 21:26

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stan_306gti6 wrote:

I guess if neither come on when I disconnect the plug the the whole fan unit is knackered then?

Thanks for all the advice guys

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Posted 23rd Jun 2012 at 21:28

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Just be sure to check that both run on half speed before the fast speed fans kick in.

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Posted 23rd Jun 2012 at 22:38

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Im bored so just been out to the car now,Unplugged the brown sensor with the engine running & the both fans still not working :-(

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Posted 23rd Jun 2012 at 22:57

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Most likely your bitron uunit under the passenger front wheel arch is goosed then. Yes

It could of course be that BOTH your fans are broken. To test this, put 12v direct to the fans and see if they spin up. If they do and you've already checked the relays then the bitron unit will need replacing. Smile

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Posted 24th Jun 2012 at 07:27

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mattgti6phase2

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Try turning them by hand at the point they should come in. This happened to my mate 6. Both fans appeared dead so i let it run up to temp and gave them a nudge and they came alive. Then he bought a 2nd hand fan including cowling and it's been fine ever since.

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Posted 24th Jun 2012 at 13:12

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Wooohooo!

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Posted 24th Jun 2012 at 14:56

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You can take out the relays behind the grill and bypass them with a short piece of wire, if the fans still don't come on then there probably buggered.

Welcome back Smile

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Posted 24th Jun 2012 at 18:40

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Also could be worth checking the 40 amp fuse.

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Posted 24th Jun 2012 at 19:36

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I had a fan that barely moved. Its been a problem on and off. Finally found that the lower connection plug which clips intot eh fan motor was oxidised on the aluminium pins.

Do the fans stop if the aircon pressure is too low or has a leak?

Posted 24th Jun 2012 at 19:50

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mechanical_repairs wrote:

Also could be worth checking the 40 amp fuse.

Carl

That's a good shout. Yes

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Posted 24th Jun 2012 at 19:58

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iplay wrote:

Do the fans stop if the aircon pressure is too low or has a leak?

The cooling fans are not affected by the air-con, however when you turn the air-con on the fans will come on IF there is enough gas in the system. If not, neither the air-con or the fans will come on. Wink

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Posted 24th Jun 2012 at 19:59

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stan_306gti6 wrote:

mechanical_repairs wrote:

Also could be worth checking the 40 amp fuse.

Carl

That's a good shout. Yes

Is this located inside the car? ill take a look now,if its fine ill get hold of another set of fans & control unit to be on the safe side Smile

Really appreciate the help!

(edit) just looked in the manual....Off I go to check

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Posted 24th Jun 2012 at 20:21

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Who you buy it off from Norwich?

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Posted 25th Jun 2012 at 14:39

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A bloke called Andy about 10mins away from the town centre?

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Posted 25th Jun 2012 at 18:42

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Congrats dude but i sort of feel this thread is quite redundant without pictures? Sad

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Posted 26th Jun 2012 at 18:20

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I have seen it on the ad he bought it from, tidy motor Thumbs up

I have pics?

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Posted 26th Jun 2012 at 19:22

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Niall wrote:

Just had another set of fans fitted yesterday but they still don't kick in,BUT I pulled the brown plug on the thermostat with the car running & both fans work on a high speed? Dunno

Is this the control unit thats buggered?

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Posted 17th Jul 2012 at 20:17

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Bitron unit is prob shot bud

Found behind passenger wheel arch / inner wing ? Thumbs up

Posted 17th Jul 2012 at 20:32

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You were down in Norwich and you didn't say!!! Would have been nice to say a quick hello

Was it off a guy called Neil??

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Posted 17th Jul 2012 at 20:37

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