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Author Subject: sergioiacobucci's 6
honestly3k

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Post #1
Hi folks,

Went and said hi to Sergio today and his Blaze 6. Went about trying to find the elusive knock/s he has been talking about.

So we got it up on the axle stands and had the wheels off. Checked the droplinks/TRE's/Balljoint bolts to see if they were all torqued up. No problems there.

Bottom engine mount fine.

Then spotted this P-bush on the drivers side -



Am i right thinking thats shagged?
Will a broken pbush be that noticeable in driving?

Also noticed the top engine mount looked like this -



Is that a big issue?
Mine looks like this by comparison -



His driveshafts seemed fine and no play in gearknob when driving. Bearings no problem.....
Checked the caliper bolts where all tight and generally most of the obvious bolts checked

My ideas lie with the following possibilities:

-pbushs
-top engine mount
-top mounts
-possibly ovalled hub (although rare?)

Anyway despite her issues, sweet sounding engine. And with that cone filter down behind the fog light sounds awesome on induction Love

Kinda makes me want one on mine LOL

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Posted 31st May 2012 at 21:35
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Post #2
Yeh, that P bush is proper f*cked. Get one of the new partner ones to replace, I remember welshbug saying they were an improved design and still relatively cheap Smile
Posted 31st May 2012 at 21:49
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Post #3
woody. wrote:
welshbug


LOL

The P-Bush looks shot, the top engine mount also looks suspect. Yes

I would try and strip down that top mount and make sure that the cradle hasn't broken as it looks at a very weird angle does that. Yes

If you manage to remove the mount and the cradle is fine, you will probably find the mount itself is in need of replacement. Yes
Either one of those two issues could cause the knock described. Wink

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Posted 31st May 2012 at 22:47
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Cheers Stan.

I think upon inspection it seems that the metal 'bridge' that goes over the cradle is the bit that is missing.

Is this a big problem in itself? Didnt look like it would cause much harm by it not being there.

Not sure how much Sergio is planning to do with his 6 as i think it might be on its way in the not too distant future.

But like most of us, its annoying when our French b**ches make untoward sounds! LOL

He did mention that this sound seems to get alot quieter/stop when he brakes.....duno if that will click anything with anyone reading

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Posted 31st May 2012 at 22:54
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That 'bridge' is to stop upward movement of the mount during running. Yes

That is why on top of the mount there is a large hexagonal rubber piece to contact with the underside of the bridge and prohibit the movement. Those buffers either side of the mount look heavily worn though in the pic.

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Posted 31st May 2012 at 23:01
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The 'bridge' not being there won't be a problem.

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  • Posted 31st May 2012 at 23:03
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    Post #7
    dangti6 wrote:
    The 'bridge' not being there won't be a problem.


    I agree, although those buffers definitely look in need of replacement and the mount should be investigated for cradle damage etc...

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    Posted 31st May 2012 at 23:14
    bigbadbowen

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    Post #8
    dangti6 wrote:
    The 'bridge' not being there won't be a problem.


    Really ?

    I'd say that whole area looks fecked to me and I'd say it defiantly needs the bridge Yes

    I bet the mount is shot as well as the chassis it sits on Yes
    Posted 31st May 2012 at 23:14
    honestly3k

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    Post #9
    I'm not sure the buffers were in bad nick to be honest, they seemed pretty solid to the touch. I'd say its worth investigating the cradle though

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    Posted 31st May 2012 at 23:17
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    Post #10
    bigbadbowen wrote:
    dangti6 wrote:
    The 'bridge' not being there won't be a problem.


    Really ?

    I'd say that whole area looks fecked to me and I'd say it defiantly needs the bridge Yes

    I bet the mount is shot as well as the chassis it sits on Yes


    Doesn't definately need the bridge. Look at all the older PSA cars with the same mount that don't have the bridge bit. It in itself not being there isn't going to be causing the problem that the OP is reporting.

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  • Posted 31st May 2012 at 23:30
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    Post #11
    True, the issue that is being reported IMO is going to be caused by a broken/cracked top mount or that knackered P-Bush or both. Yes

    The mount is more likely IMO, the bush will just cause poor handling. Wink

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    Posted 31st May 2012 at 23:37
    dangti6

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    I've got a half decent used top engine mount and a 'bridge' here if the mount is found to be worn.

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  • Posted 31st May 2012 at 23:43
    sergioiacobucci

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    Post #13
    Just wanna say a massive thanks to Chris for coming down to see the 6 today, helped a bunch and fixed my bloody door card! haha (Ive fixed the radiator too)

    So looks like the p bush could do with replacing, will i need to take that mount apart to be able to tell by the sounds of it

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    Posted 1st Jun 2012 at 00:02
    dangti6

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    Post #14
    Pop a jack with a piece of wood on top of it underneath the sump to support the weight of the engine.

    Take the rubber coated bolt out the middle and whip the mount arm off and then undo the mount. Have a good look at the cradle for signs of cracking. Check the mount itself and see if it's badly perished or split. I've had a mount shear in half before. The rubber completely split in two.

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  • Posted 1st Jun 2012 at 00:31
    honestly3k

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    Post #15
    No worries Sergio, always good to meet another 6 owner, sorry if I pointed out more issues than you expected LOL

    Although your 6 does have a few issues, none of them are major things so if you did decide to sort them you could do it on a budget

    Shout if you need a hand fixing the drivers window, which reminds me - I'll check if I have any clips at home tonight

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    Posted 1st Jun 2012 at 07:38
    sergioiacobucci

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    honestly3k wrote:
    No worries Sergio, always good to meet another 6 owner, sorry if I pointed out more issues than you expected LOL

    Although your 6 does have a few issues, none of them are major things so if you did decide to sort them you could do it on a budget

    Shout if you need a hand fixing the drivers window, which reminds me - I'll check if I have any clips at home tonight


    Thanks mate, yer the drivers window is pretty annoying in the summer so would be nice to get it done at some point. Got some Bridgestones as part worns so thats all good now cos those tyres were finished!

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