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 Moonstone6
Regular  Location: Lichfield Registered: 11 Apr 2012 Posts: 268 Status: Offline |
Post #1
Hi all my the gti6 I recently brought has had a s**te handbreak so I looked at callipers and noticed one of them does not bite the disc when the lever is pulled the cable is still in one piece and the arm on calliper moves when handbrake pulled but the piston does not move  just to confuse me more it is a nearly new delph calliper new discs and pads with dowel on one to locate in in the groove on piston have I done something stupid or missed something Cheers lads |
 Posted 10th May 2012 at 19:57
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,851 Status: Offline |
Post #2
are they seized? sliders etc?did you stomp the pedal with wheels on the ground before fittng handbrake cable? ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 10th May 2012 at 19:59
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Moonstone6
Regular Location: Lichfield Registered: 11 Apr 2012 Posts: 268 Status: Offline |
Post #3
welshpug! wrote: No mate it slides back n forth as it should my only thinkin is the callipers fooked are they seized? sliders etc? did you stomp the pedal with wheels on the ground before fittng handbrake cable? |
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Posted 10th May 2012 at 21:16
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,851 Status: Offline |
Post #4
did you do the second bit mentioned?________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 10th May 2012 at 21:19
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bigbadbowen
Seasoned Pro  Location: Winchester Registered: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 13,753 Status: Offline |
Post #5
I reckon it needs bleeding properly ? |
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Posted 10th May 2012 at 21:25
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bigbadbowen
Seasoned Pro Location: Winchester Registered: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 13,753 Status: Offline |
Post #6
I reckon it needs bleeding properly ? |
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Posted 10th May 2012 at 21:25
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Moonstone6
Regular Location: Lichfield Registered: 11 Apr 2012 Posts: 268 Status: Offline |
Post #7
bigbadbowen wrote: I even bled it aswell to cancel that scenario and still the same mateI reckon it needs bleeding properly ? |
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Posted 10th May 2012 at 22:25
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Moonstone6
Regular Location: Lichfield Registered: 11 Apr 2012 Posts: 268 Status: Offline |
Post #8
welshpug! wrote: Never noticed the 2nd bit you put I wound calliper back with handbrake released but cable connected the arm On calliper was in the released position I then pumped the pedal then applied the handbreak to check I think the calliper is faulty its sealed on the back clean grease n rubber boot is perfect did you do the second bit mentioned? |
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Posted 10th May 2012 at 22:28
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bigbadbowen
Seasoned Pro Location: Winchester Registered: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 13,753 Status: Offline |
Post #9
Does it have a new cable ? Sounds like the cable is not tensioned correctly ? If it's had a new cable it could be the wrong side ? Ie left on right or vise verser ? One is slightly longer than the other  |
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Posted 10th May 2012 at 22:46
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Moonstone6
Regular Location: Lichfield Registered: 11 Apr 2012 Posts: 268 Status: Offline |
Post #10
bigbadbowen wrote: Oo I never knew that about the cables being diffo lengths well I'm gonna get it on the ramp in the week so il av a better look at it then il strip calliper aswell to have a butchers thanks dude Does it have a new cable ? Sounds like the cable is not tensioned correctly ? If it's had a new cable it could be the wrong side ? Ie left on right or vise verser ? One is slightly longer than the other |
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Posted 10th May 2012 at 23:43
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cress87
Seasoned Pro  Location: Norwich Registered: 30 Mar 2007 Posts: 11,360 Status: Offline |
Post #11
But you said the lever on the caliper moves when you apply the handbrake so it can't be a cable issue. ________________________________________  You feed beefburgers to swans. I may have been speeding Mr Policeman but [a] I live for the 306 and [b] did you see that dog? omfg |
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Posted 10th May 2012 at 23:49
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Moonstone6
Regular Location: Lichfield Registered: 11 Apr 2012 Posts: 268 Status: Offline |
Post #12
cress87 wrote: Well that's what I though mate I thought you just adjust the small cable on the lever and the two cables are fixed length I checked the other calliper for comparison n the levers for handbrake cable are in identical positions when h brake applied n released its gotta be a fault within the calliper I'd have a look on my break at work but I'm too busy But you said the lever on the caliper moves when you apply the handbrake so it can't be a cable issue.  Tonite |
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Posted 11th May 2012 at 00:54
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,769 Status: Offline |
Post #13
From what you've said, I'd be inclined to agree that the caliper is where the fault lies.If the wheel is off the floor and you turn it by hand, get a mate to press the brake pedal and see if it stops you being able to turn the wheel. That will tell you if the caliper is working at all. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone  |
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Posted 11th May 2012 at 10:31
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,851 Status: Offline |
Post #14
if you don't press the pedal several times with the wheels on the ground (or the compensator valve held open) the piston wont self adjust, fitting the cable before doing this seems to prevent it from doing so fully.also pressing the pedal with the wheel off the floor with a load compensator doesn't always work ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 11th May 2012 at 10:57
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coskev
Seasoned Pro  Location: Oswestry Registered: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,132 Status: Offline |
Post #15
cress87 wrote: But you said the lever on the caliper moves when you apply the handbrake so it can't be a cable issue. Doesn't mean its moving far enough though Lever the handbrake arm on the caliper with a screwdriver,and see if you can turn the wheel then  I had a caliper that was like this on my 309,lever moved fully on but did nothing to the piston  ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
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Posted 11th May 2012 at 11:21
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Moonstone6
Regular Location: Lichfield Registered: 11 Apr 2012 Posts: 268 Status: Offline |
Post #16
stan_306gti6 wrote: Hi mate yea the calliper works fine hydraulically just not mechanically the disc was new last month and had even wear to the other one From what you've said, I'd be inclined to agree that the caliper is where the fault lies. If the wheel is off the floor and you turn it by hand, get a mate to press the brake pedal and see if it stops you being able to turn the wheel. That will tell you if the caliper is working at all. Gotta. Be the calliper |
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Posted 11th May 2012 at 13:53
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,769 Status: Offline |
Post #17
As Coskev says try to manually pull the handbrake lever on the caliper on with a screwdriver and see if the wheel locks up. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 11th May 2012 at 14:01
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Moonstone6
Regular Location: Lichfield Registered: 11 Apr 2012 Posts: 268 Status: Offline |
Post #18
stan_306gti6 wrote: Yep it's the only thing for it ent it lads thanks for your input fellas As Coskev says try to manually pull the handbrake lever on the caliper on with a screwdriver and see if the wheel locks up. |
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Posted 11th May 2012 at 14:27
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ian7675
Techno Viking  Location: Gloucestershire Registered: 12 Oct 2007 Posts: 6,068 Status: Offline |
Post #19
How many clicks on the handbrake lever have you adjusted it to? ________________________________________ Less than 24 hours to go! |
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Posted 11th May 2012 at 14:32
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,769 Status: Offline |
Post #20
ian7675 wrote: How many clicks on the handbrake lever have you adjusted it to? An acceptable tolerance is between 4 and 7 clicks by the way... Seeing as the handbrakes aren't the best on the disc beam I usually set mine to 4. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 11th May 2012 at 15:33
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ian7675
Techno Viking Location: Gloucestershire Registered: 12 Oct 2007 Posts: 6,068 Status: Offline |
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stan_306gti6 wrote: ian7675 wrote: How many clicks on the handbrake lever have you adjusted it to? An acceptable tolerance is between 4 and 7 clicks by the way... Seeing as the handbrakes aren't the best on the disc beam I usually set mine to 4. I know Stan, I did 4 too. I was asking the OP to check the cable isn't too slack on the lever ________________________________________ Less than 24 hours to go! |
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Posted 11th May 2012 at 16:31
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