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allanallen

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Post #26
Toe out makes the car turn in much nicer but can sometimes feel a bit a bit un-stable when north of 100mph.
I run around 2mm of toe out on my track car (with a plated LSD). I find parallel awful under power as the car darts around everywhere especially on un-even surfaces. I'd personally never entertain toe in on a fwd car.

Fwd cars tend to toe in underpower hence adding toe out (when stationary) means the wheels run parallel when you accelerate.

To answer the OP, purley for handling purposes I'd go for a 30mm front drop with a +10mm ish rake to the rear, -2degrees camber and as much castor as you can get on,1-2mm of toe out.
Much more camber on the road and you'll scrub the inside edges of the tyre off fairly quickly.

If its just looks your after, drop it on the bump stops and don't worry about the geometry as itll always drive like a heap of s**t :p

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Posted 21st Mar 2012 at 20:22
eddiebeano

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Thanks allanallen, most informative reply yet. Guess its going to have to stay on stilts! Think I'd rather the car handled somewhat on the road too!

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Posted 21st Mar 2012 at 21:05
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I'm talking bo***cks again, sorry. Blush

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Posted 21st Mar 2012 at 22:04
mattgti6phase2

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No issues with my set up. No matter what is said its down to the individual and your driving style. Also the suspension components you use.

I'm not saying that anything that's been said in this thread is wrong, far from it.

Just my opinion of course. Go for what you want and what you think will suite you best mate. Trial and error as they say.

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Posted 22nd Mar 2012 at 00:21
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mattgti6phase2 wrote:
No issues with my set up. No matter what is said its down to the individual and your driving style. Also the suspension components you use.

I'm not saying that anything that's been said in this thread is wrong, far from it.

Just my opinion of course. Go for what you want and what you think will suite you best mate. Trial and error as they say.


what would your setup be like on a single track back country lane?

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Posted 22nd Mar 2012 at 00:30
mattgti6phase2

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Never have any problems pressing on mate. The only issue I have is the amount of potholes down some country lanes sometimes the road resembles the face of the moon LOL

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Posted 22nd Mar 2012 at 00:36
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so much conflicting information! I'll be having a passenger ride in Chis and Eddy's rallye/6 at the weekend, i think they're both pretty low so that will be useful to compare ride quality etc.

BUT... the sensible thing seems to be 30 on the back ( seeing as its probably raised by at least 10 by stripping it out) and 40/45 on the front maybe, plus the toe/camber settings that Allanallen recommended, along with hybrid arb when funds allow.

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Posted 22nd Mar 2012 at 00:41
mattgti6phase2

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Your correct. Sometimes you just have to do what you feel is best for you. Ive recieved the typical your beam looks broken comments but it doesn't bother me. It's me who drives it everyday and I like the way it grips/handles never had any issues what so ever.

Good luck with your decision and as my old man always says ' buy cheap buy twice ' Wink

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Posted 22nd Mar 2012 at 00:45
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mattgti6phase2 wrote:
Good luck with your decision and as my old man always says ' buy cheap buy twice ' Wink


cheers, I'm hoping these D2 coilovers will be good. I had planned on buying KW but I simply cannot afford them, along with various other things that still need doing. Still got to budget for Wheel bearing, beam lowering, tyres, and cage is next on the list too Smile I'd like to think i had a decent spec, I should probably start a project thread sometime.

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Posted 22nd Mar 2012 at 00:54
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I run 1mm of toe-out on mine, was never really happy with the steering with parralel or toe-in.

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Posted 22nd Mar 2012 at 00:58
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I run 1mm of toe-out on mine, was never really happy with the steering with parralel or toe-in.


Did you find it hard to keep in a straight line at speed? My housemate has his civic set up to toe out, which requires constant adjustment to stay in a straigh line on the motorway.

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Posted 22nd Mar 2012 at 01:00
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What speed? It's a 1.4 LOL

Fecking lucky to get 110 leptons on the clocks.

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Posted 22nd Mar 2012 at 01:05
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What speed? It's a 1.4 LOL

Fecking lucky to get 110 leptons on the clocks.


I thought you got quite a few leptons around your house, drinking and setting fire to stuff?
Maybe my car is toe out then, whatever it is it needs doing again as the sub frames have both been off. Got the sheet somewhere, but fooked if I know where it went. It wasn't exactly stable anyway due to the -4 camber on the one rear wheel.Big grin

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