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 daver6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Durham Registered: 08 Aug 2010 Posts: 2,379 Status: Offline |
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I've had a very quick look, but couldn't find anything via google.Has anyone tried mixing the rear mounts? I'm thinking along the lines of standard front mounts but solid rear mounts? ________________________________________ Red Rallye - Rolling "restoration"Wishbone Polybushes available |
 Posted 13th Mar 2012 at 20:11
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #2
no point________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 13th Mar 2012 at 20:15
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey  Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
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The rears will break if you try that.________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 13th Mar 2012 at 20:32
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro  Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
Post #4
See now i was thinking the same but with the small square ones being rubber and the other mounts solid. I assume the Larger mounts are the ones that provide rear steer? SO would retaining the rubber square ones not keep the car quieter on bumps while providing the benefits that are associated with the solid mounts.Or am i well wrong? ________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 13th Mar 2012 at 20:33
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lewisdmz
Senior User  Location: plymouth Registered: 25 Jul 2009 Posts: 504 Status: Offline |
Post #5
There's a torsional(?) force which twist both the front and rear mounts i'd imagine? |
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Posted 13th Mar 2012 at 21:18
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
Post #6
s**t no yeah your right.... ________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 13th Mar 2012 at 21:20
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #7
Just fit the solid mounts both front and rear and lose that passive rear steer.  The car will handle better from doing this. I don't find a big problem with road noise from mine and never have done since fitting. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone  |
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Posted 14th Mar 2012 at 09:09
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
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stan_306gti6 wrote: The car will handle better from doing this. debatable, quantify "better" stan_306gti6 wrote: I don't find a big problem with road noise from mine and never have done since fitting. with your bloody cannon out the back i'm not surprised  ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 14th Mar 2012 at 09:13
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
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welshpug! wrote: stan_306gti6 wrote: The car will handle better from doing this. debatable, quantify "better" More predictable, if you do encounter LOOS it is manageable and doesn't just creep up and spin the rear out. In general fast road driving it makes the rear feel more planted during entry and exits of bends. (Obviously, this is what I find with my particular vehicle, since upgrading). welshpug! wrote: stan_306gti6 wrote: I don't find a big problem with road noise from mine and never have done since fitting. with your bloody cannon out the back i'm not surprised This is very true, can't tend to hear anything at all apart from a space shuttle launch going on behind... ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 14th Mar 2012 at 14:07
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russbez
Seasoned Pro  Location: Inverness-Shire Registered: 19 Dec 2005 Posts: 7,459 Status: Offline |
Post #10
i took my solid mounts back off the car and bought Lemforder standard onesmy roads are completely w**k though, rear end felt a lot stiffer did not have them on the car for very long though, was road use only. ________________________________________ TEAM HIGH BOOST SUPERCHARGED RALLYEMy Rallye project thread |
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Posted 14th Mar 2012 at 16:00
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lewisdmz
Senior User Location: plymouth Registered: 25 Jul 2009 Posts: 504 Status: Offline |
Post #11
I think my car feels more under steery since fitting them, i'm sure this could be sorted out by playing with tyre pressures though? |
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Posted 14th Mar 2012 at 18:26
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aaron6
Seasoned Pro  Location: On the sofa in maidstone Registered: 16 May 2006 Posts: 5,840 Status: Offline |
Post #12
Im back on passive after a stint with solids. Solids do make the car more predictable and forgiving but the passives are more fun and you really can just chuck it in. Its all personal preference but for me, I like my new passive mounts. Kl)________________________________________ See the sheer power and might of the lesser known burrowing owl. |
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Posted 14th Mar 2012 at 19:12
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #13
See, thats interesting Aaron. As you say its personal preference, I find I can really chuck the car into a bend and know it will stick with the solids, yet you find the same thing with passives. Being able to put the car into a bend and know it will do exactly what I want it to do and when is a big thing for me, and having that feeling from the solids gives the car the fun factor for me personally.I guess a lot of it has to do with how you like your car to 'feel' and also different driving styles. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 15th Mar 2012 at 15:31
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matt evans
Seasoned Pro  Location: Stourbridge Registered: 16 Sep 2009 Posts: 2,290 Status: Offline |
Post #14
I like the adjustability the passive rear steer gives you. If you are smooth (on track) you never get LOOS, however flick it about and you can get the car dancing underneath you. Depends which mood you're in.My mate Rich has solid front mounts and baggy old OE rears, and that feels more sharp on the turn in, mind you it is a gutted track car. ________________________________________ 1999 Astor Grey GTi-6 OEM+ (now gone...)2004 Aegean Blue 206 GTi 180 (also gone...) 2006 Skoda Fabia vRS in Sprint Yellow honestly3k wrote: Do you wrestle for a living matt? You sound like a monster  owain wrote: Nothing involving a 306 can be considered worthwhile. |
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Posted 15th Mar 2012 at 15:50
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jord294
Seasoned Pro  Location: somewhere in north wales Registered: 09 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,110 Status: Offline |
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So those who have removed your solid mounts, are any of the sets for sale please?________________________________________ FRESHLY RE-FURBISHED GTI BEAMSFITTING AND LOWERING AVAILABLE. ALL AXLES BUILT USING GENUINE PEUGEOT PARTS IF I'M NOT HERE, IT ONLY MEANS ONE THING.... I'M SOMEWHERE ELSE! |
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Posted 15th Mar 2012 at 16:32
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aaron6
Seasoned Pro Location: On the sofa in maidstone Registered: 16 May 2006 Posts: 5,840 Status: Offline |
Post #16
Sorry jord, sold mine to playboyb. Stan, the thing im really starting to like with the solids is it turns in much harder. The grip levels are the same on passives that solids have. Its just sometimes you have to be a touch braver on passives. Its deffinatly more fun on passives but more predictable on solids. Each to thier own I guess.  ________________________________________ See the sheer power and might of the lesser known burrowing owl. |
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Posted 15th Mar 2012 at 18:24
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
Post #17
I think to from what im understanding that to get the best from solids you should probably upgrade everything else first________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 16th Mar 2012 at 20:02
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daver6
Seasoned Pro Location: Durham Registered: 08 Aug 2010 Posts: 2,379 Status: Offline |
Post #18
Good feedback guys, as I only really bother playing on B roads, I often encounter rough road surfaces, so noise and vibration is a big factor. How are the solids in the wet? I know the passives just let go in the wet with LOOS ________________________________________ Red Rallye - Rolling "restoration"Wishbone Polybushes available |
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Posted 19th Mar 2012 at 12:20
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
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passives don't "just let go" solids do however.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 19th Mar 2012 at 12:24
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #20
When I upgraded to solids, I upgraded the rest of the beam at the same time. I really disagree about the solids there Mei, they deffo don't just snap out on you and 'let go'.  ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 19th Mar 2012 at 12:49
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
Post #21
Tbh I'm not expecting a different in harshness when I plonk on my mounts. Primarily as I'm pretty sure there's no rubber in mine anyway  ________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 20th Mar 2012 at 01:00
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dan86
Senior User  Location: Bideford Registered: 10 May 2009 Posts: 548 Status: Offline |
Post #22
Genuine passive mounts are awesome. They make the car very quiet and give you lots of 'in corner' adjustabilility. Cheap aftermarket ones I find are made from a cheaper harder rubber and do not give as much flex so are probably a good compromise if you want the rear to not be so lively.Genuine mounts (expensive) give genuine 306 handling characteristics. I would hate to change mine to solids as it would then just 'handle like a golf'. ________________________________________ |
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Posted 20th Mar 2012 at 07:02
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #23
If other mods are done to the rear as well as the solid mounts, it doesn't 'handle like a golf', it grips to the floor like Sebastien Vettel's RB7 used to. By other mods, I mean in the way of uprated torsion bars, uprated anti-roll bar, best tyres available and some decent shocks. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 20th Mar 2012 at 07:18
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dan86
Senior User Location: Bideford Registered: 10 May 2009 Posts: 548 Status: Offline |
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daver6 wrote: How are the solids in the wet? I know the passives just let go in the wet with LOOS I run Michelin pe2's in a 55 profile on new OEM beam mounts and have never had a problem with LOOS. It gives a lot of feedback and you can really feel when on the limit of grip. I'm running a completely stock spec car though and completely understand that a lot of people are using uprated suspension and need more stability. There is obviously a good reason why the touring car 306's used solid beam mounts. When using stiffer rear end components a lot more of the harshness and bumps will be transferred to the passive rear mounts and over working them which would probably feel very unstable when cornering hard and dropping into a pothole halfway round. ________________________________________ |
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Posted 20th Mar 2012 at 10:56
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aaron6
Seasoned Pro Location: On the sofa in maidstone Registered: 16 May 2006 Posts: 5,840 Status: Offline |
Post #25
The passive mounts dont let go in a corner, tires do. If you keep the car on passive steer its gona grip as well as the solids except you will be turning harder. ________________________________________ See the sheer power and might of the lesser known burrowing owl. |
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Posted 20th Mar 2012 at 13:07
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