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Author Subject: Full Suspension rebuild
eliotrw

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Post #1
Hi All,
I've been planning this for a while now and its got to the point were im going to start picking up bits here at there.
Basically im'm going to buy new suspension for my gti6. Or everything I would need to make it drive like new again.
At the moment i have stashed away:
A hybrid arb
A phillipm lower strut brace

I was looking to do the following,
New shocks all round
New springs
New droplinks
New Top Mounts
New wishbones
Rebuilt beam with 21mm bars
Solid mounts from Daveyboy

Are there any other things i should add to the above that i may have missed out, and components or maybe bolts and nuts etc which might be important?

Im not totally decided on whether to either go OEM but with zx volcanes on the rear or Bilstein B8s up front lowered 30mm on eibachs with the back brought down 15-20mm when it comes to shocks and springs
Any opinions on that point?

Also for the bits like wishbones its Peugeot or nothing right? quality wise? I'd rather spend the extra on something good than cack stuff.

Its about building the foundations for a all round car really because atm the plan is

Suspension
Brakes (807v6) and wheels (16s)
Engine work (either a rebuilt 2.2 or supercharging, in which case i would go striaght to high boost)

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Posted 17th Feb 2012 at 19:51
bigbadbowen

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Post #2
Original arms with roller bearings as pug oe new arms are £200 without ball joints Yes

Ecp do lemforder drop links and track rod ends, only buy oem top mounts as pattern parts don't fit Thumbs up
Posted 17th Feb 2012 at 19:54
eliotrw

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Post #3
Cheers mate Smile
So keep my current wishbones but renew the ball joints and bushes yeah?
Then chuck the money saved into roller bearings?
sounds good to me
worth getting new hubs or no?

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Posted 17th Feb 2012 at 20:17
daver6

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I'm also doing this, pretty much, except I'm going with B4's and my own solid w/b bushes.

My question is top mount specific, I'm replacing the bearing, but why would I change the top mount itself?

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Posted 20th Feb 2012 at 12:55
m306

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Post #5
dont go cheap on the wishbones, check out Daveyboys warning thread on them.

are you going to get Rich_W roller bearings? ive seen nothing but good things said about them, although i havent got them i do have some of Rich's other products and highly recommend anything he supplies, its always top quality parts from Rich Thumbs up

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Posted 20th Feb 2012 at 14:43
eliotrw

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It's likely that I'm going to get rich w bushes yes. Tbh daver im not sure its necessary but I'm doing all of it with a view to keep the car for a very long time. At least the next 6 years is say. If its not my daily drive then it will end up a track car. So I'd rather cover everything once you know?

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Posted 20th Feb 2012 at 19:10
eliotrw

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Any other thoughts from those of you in the know?

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Posted 21st Feb 2012 at 17:39
welshpug!

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alloy bodied late xsara/306/partner/berlingo P-bushes Smile

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Posted 21st Feb 2012 at 17:43
eliotrw

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Post #9
Oh rly?
I was looking at Meyle HD wishbones.
Have you got a part number for them bushes? What's up with them, just stiffer?
Tbh it would make some sense for me to go for rollers as its very likely the car will be charged, and I understand they are quite necessary for a charged car?

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Posted 21st Feb 2012 at 18:09
eliotrw

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So anyone got any pearls of wisdom about things I should get that aren't on the list? Any key bolts, nuts etc? Or should i get hubs as well?

Also i was thinking earlier, I pretty much want to have the best road setup possible, money isn't really an issue in the sense im happy to fork out for roller bearing wishbones and Bilsteins (although what Mei said about them being twin tube has put me off them a bit) unless theres something better than them?
coilovers are a bit harsh for road no?

With the rear beam i think im going to use new 21mm TBs. obviously my Hybrid bar aswell.
Are the trailing arms from a xsara actually better? or just different?
Solid mounts
Obviously different shocks (depending on what goes on the front...)

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Posted 22nd Feb 2012 at 20:51
eliotrw

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I forgot to say, is there any reason not to buy used wishbones? (genuine ones)
I would clean em up, paint them and add new bushes and ball joints, I was just thinking if they really are 200 new and I dont get some feedback re:Meyle HD then its money saved that can go towards a part that will make difference. Posh droplinks or whatever.

However if they lose strength etc as i've said above i'd rather not cut corners.

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Posted 22nd Feb 2012 at 20:55
jord294

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Post #12
Here's what I'm doing to my rallye

B8s on the front with eibachs. Rollerbearing wishbone bushes, brand new strut top kit.

On the rear, rebuilt beam with solid mounts, vts torsion bars, 28.5mm arb and group n Bilsteins

I will set the ride height at the rear so it sits just a little higher than the front

The above set up has been used by a few guys, and is advised by someone who specialises in pug racing

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Posted 22nd Feb 2012 at 21:30
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I wouldn't use roller bearing stuff on a road car.

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Posted 22nd Feb 2012 at 21:43
jord294

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Post #14
welshpug! wrote:
I wouldn't use roller bearing stuff on a road car.


How come Mei? I've used them on all 306s I've had, and found them fantastic

Oh, and I'm hoping to have a phase 1 xsara vts steering rack aswell

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Posted 22nd Feb 2012 at 21:49
welshpug!

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Post #15
too much noise and snatching, not what I want on a road car.

similar thing with solid rear mounts, no give whatsoever which pushes the limit too far then when it lets go that's it, BOOM :/

if it was purely a track or rally car certainly.

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Posted 22nd Feb 2012 at 22:02
eliotrw

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jord294 wrote:
Here's what I'm doing to my rallye

B8s on the front with eibachs. Rollerbearing wishbone bushes, brand new strut top kit.

On the rear, rebuilt beam with solid mounts, vts torsion bars, 28.5mm arb and group n Bilsteins

I will set the ride height at the rear so it sits just a little higher than the front

The above set up has been used by a few guys, and is advised by someone who specialises in pug racing


That sounds identical to what i was thinking.
I might go -30mm on the front with -15/20 on the rear.
Ive heard good things about not quite bringing the rear down so far. Plus it will preserve the beam a bit better id have thought

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Posted 22nd Feb 2012 at 22:16
eliotrw

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Anyone got any pearls of wisdom about bits I've missed out?
Or feedback about meyle hd wishbones?

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Posted 24th Feb 2012 at 17:35
welshpug!

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been on my brothers car for 20k odd no issues.

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Posted 24th Feb 2012 at 22:19
eliotrw

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Just need to find them for sale now... can't seem to see them anywhere.

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Posted 24th Feb 2012 at 22:53

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