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chrisd306

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Copied of another site, I tried doing a search but couldn't see another thread but here's what I copied off other site


VOSA 2012 MOT amendments,


hi guys as i am a MOT tester i thought id share with the non knowing public about the new testable items where we can warrant a RfR....

personally i think its a joke, but what am i to argue with VOSA. ok here goes,

The main changes from 2012
Electronic parking brake
Electronic parking brake controls are now included and must be present and not inappropriately repaired or modified - repair obviously likely to adversely affect the roadworthiness of the vehicle or modification that has seriously weakened the component.

(The 'inappropriately repaired or modified' check is to be applied to a wide range of systems and components throughout the vehicle.)

The car will fail if an Electronic Parking Brake warning lamp is illuminated to indicate a malfunction.

Electronic Stability Control
Checks of antilock brakes will be extended to include Electronic Stability Control if fitted. The tester will check for the presence and correct operation of the ESC malfunction warning light together with looking for obviously missing, excessively damaged or inappropriately repaired or modified components and electrical wiring, as well as an ESC switch missing, insecure or faulty.

Warning lights
As well as electronic parking brake and electronic stability control warning lights (where fitted) the MOT test will also include checks for the correct function of the following, where fitted;

Headlight main beam warning light
Electronic power steering warning light
Brake fluid level warning light
Tyre pressure monitoring system warning light
Air bag warning light
Seat belt pre-tensioner warning light
Steering & suspension
The new test includes a check on the presence and correct function of the steering lock where fitted as standard.

Missing, or split/damaged dust covers on steering and suspension ball-joints will result in failure if they will allow dirt to enter the joint.

Power steering fluid level must be above the minimum level indicated on the reservoir.

Lighting
Products on the lens or light source that obviously reduce the light's intensity or change its colour will become a reason for failure – applies to front/rear position lamps, registration plate lamps, stop lamps, rear fog and direction indicators,

Headlight requirements are updated to take account of the particular characteristics of High Intensity Discharge (HID) lamps.

HID headlights can cause dazzle if they are dirty or aimed too high so car manufacturers must fit headlamp cleaning and levelling systems. A car will fail if a mandatory headlamp cleaning or levelling system is missing, doesn't work or is obviously defective.

Vehicles fitted with aftermarket HID systems must also be fitted with properly working washer and levelling systems.

If a headlamp bulb is not seated correctly the resulting beam pattern will be indistinct and this will result in a test fail.

Electrical wiring and battery
An insecure battery will be a reason for failure as will a battery that is leaking electrolyte.

Visible wiring that is insecure, inadequately supported or likely to cause a short will also result in a failure as will wires bared by damaged insulation.

Trailer/caravan electrical socket
There will be a basic security/damage check of 7-pin sockets,

13-pin sockets will be subject to a full electrical connectivity check and incorrectly connected or inoperative circuits will result in failure.

Tyres
Tyre pressure monitoring systems fitted to vehicles first registered after 1 January 2012 must be working correctly and not indicating a malfunction.

Supplementary restraints
The vehicle will fail the test if any airbag fitted as original equipment is obviously missing or defective.

A seatbelt pre-tensioner fitted as original equipment but missing or that has obviously deployed will be a reason for failure.

Seatbelt load limiters that are missing where fitted as standard or folding webbing type limiters that have obviously deployed are also reasons for failure.

The vehicle will also fail if an SRS malfunction light is missing, not working or indicating a fault.

Speedometer
The car will fail if a speedometer is not fitted, is incomplete, inoperative, has a dial glass broken/missing or cannot be illuminated.

Seats
It must be possible to secure the driver's seat fore and aft adjustment mechanism in two or three different positions. On electric seats the motors must move the seat fore and aft.

Doors
A rear door that cannot be opened from the outside using the relevant control is a new reason for failure.

Doors must be easy to open and close – hinges, catches and pillars will be inspected.

Towbars
Inappropriate repair or modification to the towbar assembly will be a reason for failure if judged likely to affect the roadworthiness of the vehicle/trailer.

Exhaust
A catalytic convertor fitted as original equipment but missing will be a reason for failure.

Fuel system
Damaged or chafed fuel pipes will result in failure.

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Posted 15th Feb 2012 at 21:53
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Post #2
so basically, a track car with fixed buckets, harness and an aftermarket steering wheel with no airbag would now be a fail?

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Posted 15th Feb 2012 at 22:07
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Post #3
Yeah basically

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Posted 15th Feb 2012 at 22:09
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looks like it will be a trailer queen :/
no more road legal track cars?

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With the 306 Rallye the goal wasn't to make a purer or more focussed car. It was to make a cheaper car, and then cynically use Peugeot's motorsport heritage to make it appeal to enthusiasts.
Posted 15th Feb 2012 at 22:11
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where have you been Chris, it's old news now LOL

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Posted 15th Feb 2012 at 22:11
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chrisd306 wrote:
VOSA 2012 MOT amendments,

The main changes from 2012

Warning lights
As well as electronic parking brake and electronic stability control warning lights (where fitted) the MOT test will also include checks for the correct function of the following, where fitted;

Air bag warning light
Seat belt pre-tensioner warning light

Lighting

HID headlights can cause dazzle if they are dirty or aimed too high so car manufacturers must fit headlamp cleaning and levelling systems. A car will fail if a mandatory headlamp cleaning or levelling system is missing, doesn't work or is obviously defective.

Vehicles fitted with aftermarket HID systems must also be fitted with properly working washer and levelling systems.

Supplementary restraints
The vehicle will fail the test if any airbag fitted as original equipment is obviously missing or defective.

A seatbelt pre-tensioner fitted as original equipment but missing or that has obviously deployed will be a reason for failure.

The vehicle will also fail if an SRS malfunction light is missing, not working or indicating a fault.

Seats
It must be possible to secure the driver's seat fore and aft adjustment mechanism in two or three different positions. On electric seats the motors must move the seat fore and aft.

Exhaust
A catalytic convertor fitted as original equipment but missing will be a reason for failure.


Oh dear. Thats 90% of the cars on this forum failed then...

Seriously though, this means no after market steering wheels, airbags back in the dash boys and airbag lights back in. VOSA=bas**rdS. Thumbs down

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Posted 15th Feb 2012 at 22:12
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Post #7
so whats the advice, if you plan to have a road legal track car?

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With the 306 Rallye the goal wasn't to make a purer or more focussed car. It was to make a cheaper car, and then cynically use Peugeot's motorsport heritage to make it appeal to enthusiasts.
Posted 15th Feb 2012 at 22:12
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af1-gti wrote:
so whats the advice, if you plan to have a road legal track car?


Your f*cked. LOL

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Years of 'Creative Maintenance' mean this car is now much lighter and slightly more 'race' specced... Tee hee
Posted 15th Feb 2012 at 22:14
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wonder if its time to push my employers for my b+e lol

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With the 306 Rallye the goal wasn't to make a purer or more focussed car. It was to make a cheaper car, and then cynically use Peugeot's motorsport heritage to make it appeal to enthusiasts.
Posted 15th Feb 2012 at 22:15
chrisd306

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Post #10
I knew about changes as my old mans garage does mots, so new about start of year but just had seen few questions about what passes an fails now so thought I'd stick a thread up about it!!

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Posted 15th Feb 2012 at 22:18
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Post #11
what about if once you finish a track car, you take it for an SVA? so its 'reregistered' ?! as something without an airbag, abs, retractable seat belts etc??

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With the 306 Rallye the goal wasn't to make a purer or more focussed car. It was to make a cheaper car, and then cynically use Peugeot's motorsport heritage to make it appeal to enthusiasts.
Posted 15th Feb 2012 at 22:21
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Yawn
Posted 15th Feb 2012 at 22:24
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Not sure how that would work tbh

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Posted 15th Feb 2012 at 22:25
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like anything will change whatsoever, the MOT system is bent at best LOL

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Posted 15th Feb 2012 at 22:26
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oh fantastic bowen, you know the answer? please enlighten us Smile

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With the 306 Rallye the goal wasn't to make a purer or more focussed car. It was to make a cheaper car, and then cynically use Peugeot's motorsport heritage to make it appeal to enthusiasts.
Posted 15th Feb 2012 at 22:27
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af1-gti wrote:
so whats the advice, if you plan to have a road legal track car?


Find someone that will do a dodgy MOT on it and bung them a few quid. LOL

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Posted 15th Feb 2012 at 22:27
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Just need a friendly mot tester and be fine,

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Posted 15th Feb 2012 at 22:30
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stan_306gti6 wrote:
af1-gti wrote:
so whats the advice, if you plan to have a road legal track car?


Find someone that will do a dodgy MOT on it and bung them a few quid. LOL


^^^ This. Although friendly 'bent' LOL MOT testers are getting hard to come by.

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Phase 3 Astor. Built on Wednesday, 12th April 2000 in France.

Years of 'Creative Maintenance' mean this car is now much lighter and slightly more 'race' specced... Tee hee
Posted 15th Feb 2012 at 22:31
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not my style Wink

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With the 306 Rallye the goal wasn't to make a purer or more focussed car. It was to make a cheaper car, and then cynically use Peugeot's motorsport heritage to make it appeal to enthusiasts.
Posted 15th Feb 2012 at 22:31
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Thank you for your email enquiry dated 9th January 2012, concerning the
above.

The MOT inspection manual can be viewed online at
http://www.transportoffice.gov.uk/cr...sandguides.htm

The information column of Section 6.2, which deals with the seats states
that "specialist modifications are to be accepted". If the new seat was
clearly not intended to move, then the tester would not need to check the
adjustability of the seat.

The airbag requirements are currently only advisories, and will only be
failure items later in the year. The removal of the air bag is not quite so
straight forward. For example, just changing the steering wheel to a
different type (specialist or not) is not quite the same and could be
required under type approval.
Our engineers are aware of the situation, and it is currently their
intention to issue an amendment to the manual to state that specialist
modifications (eg for rally cars) should be accepted at MOT.

It is possible at the MOT for the ABS system to be removed and still pass.
Section 3.4 of the IM now has the following note in the information column
“If an ABS or ESC system has been intentionally rendered inoperative, the
whole system must be removed. However, this does not apply to sensor rings
or other ABS components which are an integral part of another component,
e.g. brake disc or drive shaft.”

Please note that the MOT is a basic roadworthiness test, and does not
guarantee that the vehicle meets all the legislative requirements, which
may mean that even if the vehicle passes the MOT, it may not be fully
legal. For further advice on the airbag/ABS requirements, you should
contact the Department for Transport at https://www.dft.gov.uk, as VOSA are only
able to advise on the MOT requirements.

I hope this information has assisted you with your enquiry, but if you have
any further questions please do not hesitate to contact us again.

from a paxo forum, panic over, I'm going bed

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Posted 15th Feb 2012 at 22:34
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So my seatbeats need to get sorted then........ziptie my pretentioners under the seat i will then

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Posted 15th Feb 2012 at 22:36
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You could get around most of that by keeping the standard parts and swapping them out come MOT time... massive ball ache, but not the end of the world I guess.
Posted 15th Feb 2012 at 22:42
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Just been sent this link
Not read it all but seems MSA logbooked cars are excempt

Clicky

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Posted 15th Feb 2012 at 23:13
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From what that guy posted, it would appear you don't even need one of those!

quote:
I asked what would qualify as a rally car, "a car with a roll cage and bucket seats with harnesses" was the answer, although this would be up to the testers discretion using common sense.
Posted 15th Feb 2012 at 23:36
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None of the changes affect me at the moment... LOL

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