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Uploaded this on behalf of Mich as she having problems with her PUG. Wondered if anyone could shed any light on the problem.Video:
Sounds awful as you can hear.
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 fozzy_255
Senior User  Location: portsmouth/Folkestone Registered: 30 Dec 2007 Posts: 677 Status: Offline |
Video: Sounds awful as you can hear. |
 Posted 2nd Jan 2012 at 19:35
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Rich E
Forum Admin Location: Hertfordshire Registered: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 7,757 Status: Offline |
Post #2
Sounds a lot like spun big end shells.________________________________________ Rich |
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Posted 2nd Jan 2012 at 19:37
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matt evans
Seasoned Pro  Location: Stourbridge Registered: 16 Sep 2009 Posts: 2,290 Status: Offline |
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Yip, sounds knackered to me.Any other symptoms? What was it doing when it started making the racket? ________________________________________ 1999 Astor Grey GTi-6 OEM+ (now gone...)2004 Aegean Blue 206 GTi 180 (also gone...) 2006 Skoda Fabia vRS in Sprint Yellow honestly3k wrote: Do you wrestle for a living matt? You sound like a monster  owain wrote: Nothing involving a 306 can be considered worthwhile. |
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Posted 2nd Jan 2012 at 19:40
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midlife
Seasoned Pro  Location: Colne, Lancashire Registered: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 7,544 Status: Offline |
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Yup it's a spun big end bearing!  ________________________________________ Get used to seeing the yellow one !!! Team 330™ Team "no front end or engine" Team "LIMITED EDITION" I live for the 306 sticker  Team 0-60 in 6.44 & standing qtr in 14.808 @ 94.55mph all with std engine 203bhp Corolla T-Sport daily driver stealthier than Kwai Chang Caine |
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Posted 2nd Jan 2012 at 19:49
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colgti6
Regular  Location: maidstone Registered: 16 Jul 2011 Posts: 131 Status: Offline |
Post #5
Sounds exactly like my old engine and as everyone has said its the bottom end that is shagged ________________________________________ Adding up the bills for the 6 |
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Posted 2nd Jan 2012 at 19:57
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poogiepug1
Seasoned Pro  Location: Dover Registered: 24 Nov 2004 Posts: 1,666 Status: Offline |
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only does it when i press the throttle but not at idle. Been driving it still though which maybe i should not. Aaron and Pete have heard it and will see what they comment but they didnt seem to think it was bottom end. Going to a garage to get it checked out. Thanks john for puttin the vid up for me ________________________________________ |
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Posted 2nd Jan 2012 at 20:03
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miles
Seasoned Pro  Location: Ringwood Registered: 28 Dec 2002 Posts: 3,433 Status: Offline |
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Does sound like the bottom end, I wouldn;t drive it any further or you could totally wreck the engine, At least the head is OK currently________________________________________ 306 Rallye Sptint/Race Car, 205 CTI 1.9 8v to name a fewRoad, Track and Race/Rally car preparation to your personal requirements, Full Workshop & Diagnostic Facilities New and Second parts, from Plugs to Turbo's We now also carry out Routine Servicing www.pugracing.com & FB Page, https://www.facebook.com/PugRacing Ebay; http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Pug-Racing-Shop 2012/2013/2014/2019 Class Winners at Gurston Down Speed Hillclimb & Joint overall, Class record too along the way, |
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Posted 2nd Jan 2012 at 20:15
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antcla.85
Senior User  Location: Southampton Registered: 18 Dec 2007 Posts: 580 Status: Offline |
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Spark Plug loose?________________________________________ Life is short, make it interestingBuy a Peugeot! |
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Posted 2nd Jan 2012 at 20:17
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aaron6
Seasoned Pro  Location: On the sofa in maidstone Registered: 16 May 2006 Posts: 5,840 Status: Offline |
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Plug was loose, not ant more though. It does sound like the head. It sounds very high up the head on the left as you look at it. I was wondering if it could be a loose cam cap. ( the bit that clamps the cam down ). Very odd noise. ________________________________________ See the sheer power and might of the lesser known burrowing owl. |
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Posted 2nd Jan 2012 at 20:22
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binkagti
Seasoned Pro  Location: canterbury Registered: 14 Oct 2006 Posts: 2,411 Status: Offline |
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Does not sound good, bottom end aswell i think, sorry mich.________________________________________ TEAM Supercharged Rallye |
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Posted 2nd Jan 2012 at 20:24
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aaron6
Seasoned Pro Location: On the sofa in maidstone Registered: 16 May 2006 Posts: 5,840 Status: Offline |
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I will say from the vid it sounds bottom end, its just odd in the flesh it sounds top end. Although iv never heard a shell gone. It also is silent at idle. Any other ideas?________________________________________ See the sheer power and might of the lesser known burrowing owl. |
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Posted 2nd Jan 2012 at 20:30
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bigbadbowen
Seasoned Pro  Location: Winchester Registered: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 13,753 Status: Offline |
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That's going to need a replacement engine as its the quickest and easiest way to sort out. We have 4 or so engines that could easily be dropped in for you  |
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Posted 2nd Jan 2012 at 20:37
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poogiepug1
Seasoned Pro Location: Dover Registered: 24 Nov 2004 Posts: 1,666 Status: Offline |
Post #13
depends on the price of the engine and one that has had Cambelt etc done as i just had all that done and lots of other stuff done ________________________________________ |
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Posted 2nd Jan 2012 at 20:41
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greenbelt
Seasoned Pro  Location: How's Life In London? Registered: 23 Apr 2006 Posts: 1,961 Status: Offline |
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+1 for the bottom end Michelle  ________________________________________ Standard Black 6Black HBSC6  |
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Posted 2nd Jan 2012 at 20:55
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colgti6
Regular Location: maidstone Registered: 16 Jul 2011 Posts: 131 Status: Offline |
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aaron6 wrote: I will say from the vid it sounds bottom end, its just odd in the flesh it sounds top end. Although iv never heard a shell gone. It also is silent at idle. Any other ideas? Mine sound like it Aaron the piston on the gearbox side was coming up and hitting the bottom off the head it ended up taking chunks out of it ________________________________________ Adding up the bills for the 6 |
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Posted 2nd Jan 2012 at 21:00
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poogiepug1
Seasoned Pro Location: Dover Registered: 24 Nov 2004 Posts: 1,666 Status: Offline |
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sorry to ask but Im rubbish with engines does my air con stay as i had all that replaced? Is it just a case of the engine in and out? Anyone local who can help? ________________________________________ |
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Posted 2nd Jan 2012 at 21:02
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
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yup it can be done without disturbing the aircon pipes, just takes some faffing and extra care.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 2nd Jan 2012 at 21:28
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bigbadbowen
Seasoned Pro Location: Winchester Registered: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 13,753 Status: Offline |
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I can get you a price on an engine swap ? Can always swap bits over from your engine to a replacement ie the cam belt kit etc no need to touch the aircon either |
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Posted 2nd Jan 2012 at 21:40
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poogiepug1
Seasoned Pro Location: Dover Registered: 24 Nov 2004 Posts: 1,666 Status: Offline |
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Yeah if you could get me a price on an engine swap that would be great. ________________________________________ |
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Posted 2nd Jan 2012 at 21:42
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aaron6
Seasoned Pro Location: On the sofa in maidstone Registered: 16 May 2006 Posts: 5,840 Status: Offline |
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Posted 2nd Jan 2012 at 22:21
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro  Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,901 Status: Offline |
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aaron6 wrote: Plug was loose, not ant more though. It does sound like the head. It sounds very high up the head on the left as you look at it. I was wondering if it could be a loose cam cap. ( the bit that clamps the cam down ). Very odd noise. It would be p*ssing oil out the side of the cam carrier if it was loose. That defiantly sounds like bottom end is knocking Is there plenty of oil in it? ________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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Posted 2nd Jan 2012 at 22:26
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mechanical_repairs
Seasoned Pro  Location: leicester Registered: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 12,122 Status: Offline |
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Have you removed the timing belt cover as it may be a timing cam pulley, the three bolt versions have been known to fail, I have had a few that have sounded like that and that was the issue both times.Worth a check? Carl ________________________________________ C.G.Cars of Leicester, Peugeot/Citroen/Renault specialist Tel: 01162 624498/07799 405184 WWW.CGCARSLEICESTER.CO.UK36 narborough road south, Leicester LE3 2fn MOT station now open, tests £35 with a free retest. Recovery available with a recovery unit, for those not so local jobs Also offer the loan of a free courtesy car 306 dturbo |
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Posted 2nd Jan 2012 at 22:34
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bigbadbowen
Seasoned Pro Location: Winchester Registered: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 13,753 Status: Offline |
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Good call that ? It did sound a bit top end to me rather than death rattle ? Especially if you have been driving it ? A bottom end gone would let go quite soon if driven ? |
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Posted 2nd Jan 2012 at 22:51
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miles
Seasoned Pro Location: Ringwood Registered: 28 Dec 2002 Posts: 3,433 Status: Offline |
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Can you get old Stilly to have a look, At least then you'll have a idea what needs doing before shipping it off for repairbut as said engine replacement is just that, all the bolt on bits get swapped over, even the starter and Alt for example Got engines here as well ________________________________________ 306 Rallye Sptint/Race Car, 205 CTI 1.9 8v to name a fewRoad, Track and Race/Rally car preparation to your personal requirements, Full Workshop & Diagnostic Facilities New and Second parts, from Plugs to Turbo's We now also carry out Routine Servicing www.pugracing.com & FB Page, https://www.facebook.com/PugRacing Ebay; http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Pug-Racing-Shop 2012/2013/2014/2019 Class Winners at Gurston Down Speed Hillclimb & Joint overall, Class record too along the way, |
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Posted 2nd Jan 2012 at 23:12
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aaron6
Seasoned Pro Location: On the sofa in maidstone Registered: 16 May 2006 Posts: 5,840 Status: Offline |
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As I said, yesterday when I heard it did soynd top end on the pulley side of the head. Well worth a look id say. Unfortunatly the car is quite far from dave but iirc michelle said its booked in garage wednesday. What exactly goes on the pulley just out if interest? Also, the car has done over 200miles sinse the noise. Would the bottom end have lasted that long? ________________________________________ See the sheer power and might of the lesser known burrowing owl. |
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Posted 3rd Jan 2012 at 06:22
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