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bigbadbowen

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Nope it would have properly let go by now
Posted 3rd Jan 2012 at 07:15
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Sounds like bottom end to me too in the video, but it might not be if you say it sounds totally different in the flesh Aaron...

A bottom end which is not too badly damaged would probably go on for 200miles+ if you weren't driving it hard, however, the 3-bolt design vernier pulleys wouldn't last that long, as once they shatter the cambelt would be thrown pretty soon afterwards.

Definitely worth a check though. In answer to your question Aaron, the earlier design pulley generally fails where the three small 10mm bolts go through the pulley, it cracks around the bolt holes and then fails completely.

Good luck Mich, keep us updated.

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Posted 3rd Jan 2012 at 07:17
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I would be surprised if it had the three bolt pulley design as it's a Phase III (V reg iirc) - unless the engine has been swapped before

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Posted 3rd Jan 2012 at 09:45
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Its an s plate phase 2. Ah, it sounds as if a lifter is loose in it collet or something like that and is very high up the engine or so it appears at least. Very strange. Smile

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Posted 3rd Jan 2012 at 10:52
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Oh all these things to check LOL i will go in to the garage with a print off this so they can check it all. I am still driving it but keeping well below 3000 revs oh and i toniced it dont make the noise when i go down hill with foot on acelerator, weird!!

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Posted 3rd Jan 2012 at 10:55
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poogiepug1 wrote:
Oh all these things to check LOL i will go in to the garage with a print off this so they can check it all. I am still driving it but keeping well below 3000 revs oh and i toniced it dont make the noise when i go down hill with foot on acelerator, weird!!


Reduced load on the engine, point to big end issues.

I had a RS escort once that did the big ends due to oil surge on a trackday. Drove back from Donington at 40mph and it hardly rattled at all on the overrun or down hills. What were you doing when you noticed the noise?

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Posted 3rd Jan 2012 at 11:08
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please STOP driving it.

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Posted 3rd Jan 2012 at 11:16
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LOL
Loads of life left in that...
Keep us posted michelle. Smile

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Posted 3rd Jan 2012 at 11:26
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LOL
Loads of life left in that...
Keep us posted michelle. Smile

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Posted 3rd Jan 2012 at 11:28
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You might as well just start budgeting for a replacement engine if you keep on driving.

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Posted 3rd Jan 2012 at 11:34
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A f*cked bottom end would go on much longer than a broken up cam pulley would.
I don't know about these engines but I've heard diesels with a knocking bottom end still going 6 months later.

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Posted 3rd Jan 2012 at 11:35
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I wouldnt be driving it full stop.

My luck would be the rod would end up exiting the block, straight through the air con pipes and rad for good measure.

At the moment its fixable without too much expense. If it lets go completley, its a different story

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Posted 3rd Jan 2012 at 11:40
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On average, how much for a bottom end rebuild? Cheaper for replacement engine?

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Posted 3rd Jan 2012 at 11:43
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much the same, though you can't guarantee how long a replacement engine will last, if you are going to use the car I'd rebuild, if you're going to chuck it soon dump an used one in.


bottom end bearings £100, regrind £100 (as its been knocking it will need one)

second hand conrod, few quid (because the bearing spun and made the rod oval)

check the head+ skim if req, £100.

head gasket £40, bolts £15.

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Posted 3rd Jan 2012 at 11:49
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buzzbrightyear wrote:
A f*cked bottom end would go on much longer than a broken up cam pulley would.
I don't know about these engines but I've heard diesels with a knocking bottom end still going 6 months later.


doubtful, that's more likely to be diesel knock, sounds quite similar.

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Posted 3rd Jan 2012 at 11:50
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It happened last week when my acelarator got stuck on 4-5000 revs, it did it the week before and stuck on 6000 revs (but was fine that time). It is going to a garage on Wednesday just down the road from me. I will stop driving it

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Posted 3rd Jan 2012 at 12:42
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I want to keep the car so may get it rebuilt if it just needs what is posted above?

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Posted 3rd Jan 2012 at 12:43
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if you stop driving now yeah, you'll need to add labour to that of course.

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Posted 3rd Jan 2012 at 13:33
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Ok, thanksSmile Am also looking at option of engine that has already been rebuilt then can just drop it in to mine

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Posted 3rd Jan 2012 at 13:43
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Just be careful with recon engine's, I'd ask what has been done as it could just be a S/H unit with a oil change is nothing was found to be wrong with it, the joy's of the word Recon I'm afraid

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Other option is buy a late Xsara VTS for a few hundred quid and then you can test the engine first at least, Then just swap them over

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miles wrote:
Other option is buy a late Xsara VTS for a few hundred quid and then you can test the engine first at least, Then just swap them over


That's a very good idea, you can break / scrap the rest of it and get a bit of money back too.

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Posted 3rd Jan 2012 at 14:34
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I'll keep an eye out for a good engine for you Mich....Smile

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Posted 3rd Jan 2012 at 20:29
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Yes if you could, my dad said he would treat me bless him as he knows i love my carSmile (sometimes!!)

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