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thewho07

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Timing belt just been done by experienced car mechanic as i write this, got a phone call asking if it tapped when i started it from cold before belt was done, it didnt. Mechanic says the oil pressure light wont go out after he starts it, so hes not going to run it just incase oil pumps f*cked etc. why would there be a problem with oil pressure after the belt has been done? The car was fine before belt was done, new oil and oil level is fine. Help!? Cheers
Posted 24th Nov 2011 at 17:47
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Anyone? Does it sound like the oil pumps is away?
Posted 24th Nov 2011 at 19:58
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Not 100% on this but if he has left it for a little while then it could just be a tapping noise from the tappits where they have drained whilst its not been running. The only other thing I can think of is that one of the pulleys isn't timed when he put a new belt on but that would make a major tap. Not sure about the oil light either, never had that when I've changed the cambelt

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Posted 24th Nov 2011 at 20:01
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If it wasn't tapping before and it is now then he f*cked it up Yes

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Posted 24th Nov 2011 at 20:03
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Not 100% on this but if he has left it for a little while then it could just be a tapping noise from the tappits where they have drained whilst its not been running. The only other thing I can think of is that one of the pulleys isn't timed when he put a new belt on but that would make a major tap. Not sure about the oil light either, never had that when I've changed the cambelt


Hes done loads of belts on them before, so i think he should have the timing spot on. I just cant understand why the oil pressure light would come on after a belt change? The car had only been sitting for a few hours. It was fine when it went into the garage, engine was running great. No noisey tappets or anything.
Posted 24th Nov 2011 at 20:07
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If it wasn't tapping before and it is now then he f*cked it up Yes


What could have went wrong though?
Posted 24th Nov 2011 at 20:08
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i'm not sure if the oil pump works the same as 8v xu, but if the bottom pulley hasn't been tightened correctly and woodruff key missing then the pump won't rotate as it should

for anyone who has better knowledge, feel free to correct me

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Posted 24th Nov 2011 at 20:10
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Gutted! Anyone else got any ideas?
Posted 24th Nov 2011 at 20:17
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Jord is correct, the oil pump is driven by the crank and the sprocket on the earlier engines is held in place by friction of the crank bolt.

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Posted 24th Nov 2011 at 20:22
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welshpug! wrote:
Jord is correct, the oil pump is driven by the crank and the sprocket on the earlier engines is held in place by friction of the crank bolt.


Ok. What would you need to do to sort this then, if it hasnt been tightened correctly? When you meen it hasnt been tightened correctly, do you meen tightened tight enough or has not been lined up correctly?
Posted 24th Nov 2011 at 20:26
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greenbelt wrote:
If it wasn't tapping before and it is now then he f*cked it up Yes


What could have went wrong though?


One of the cams might have rotated and that's how valves get bent, hence the tapping noise Sad

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Posted 24th Nov 2011 at 20:36
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I doubt you will really be able to tell unless you strip it down and have a look.

Might be worth getting a length of hose and using it as a low tech stethoscope and try to find where the tapping noise is loudest?

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Posted 24th Nov 2011 at 20:40
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aphyx wrote:
I doubt you will really be able to tell unless you strip it down and have a look.

Might be worth getting a length of hose and using it as a low tech stethoscope and try to find where the tapping noise is loudest?


Thanks for the help. Anyone want a mint nile 6 with bent valves! Haha. Im soooo gutted!
Posted 24th Nov 2011 at 20:47
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Bottom pulley prob slipped so it's not timed correctly
Posted 24th Nov 2011 at 20:49
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Bottom pulley prob slipped so it's not timed correctly


Bent valves then? Or might i have been lucky?
Posted 24th Nov 2011 at 20:51
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If the oil light is on it will be what jord says, the earlier oil pump drive just have a small o ring and it's the friction when the crank bolt is tight to hold it all in place.

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Posted 24th Nov 2011 at 20:57
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If the oil light is on it will be what jord says, the earlier oil pump drive just have a small o ring and it's the friction when the crank bolt is tight to hold it all in place.

Carl


Ok. Its a phase3 model, will it still have this? Easy fix? Cheers for the help.
Posted 24th Nov 2011 at 21:24
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no, should be the latter assembly, whip the crank pulley off and look at the bottom sprocket, later ones are a hollow machined affair.

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Posted 25th Nov 2011 at 00:06
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Right, valves are all fine as it has been timed up spot on. Still no oil pressure though. Oil pump is getting looked at this weekend, hopfully it'll be an easy fix! Oil pumps, what do they cost new? Worth getting a 2nd hand one?
Posted 25th Nov 2011 at 16:33
welshpug!

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DO NOT buy a motorfactor pump, always use o.e or second hand.

However its highly unlikely that the pump has failed.


I would get a proper oil pressure test done as you can't always trust the senders.

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Posted 25th Nov 2011 at 17:09

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