Can someboy please explain why it appears that nobody seems able to time a gti6 engine up???

Certain reputable garages charge a substantial fee for doing cam belt water pump tensioners etc and time and time agian I hear that the belt snaps or is timed up wrong or as in my case the head gasket goes / head damage due to incorrect valve timing.

I have receipted cam belt change from the non mentioned "God of all things Peugeot" and in less than 2000 miles it developes dodgy starting, running on 3 cylinders then runs clear. then one day heading up the motorway at a steady 80mph a cloud of smoke engulfs the traffic behind and I drift off the m40 with the engine off to find the rad has pressurised up and dumped half the water from the cooling system out through the expansion bottle and out and under the car at a great rate of knots.

I let it cool down called a mate with a large drum of water and coolant top the car up and check for overheating. No sign of it so I drive the 15 miles to my mates garage and leave the car with him after doing the carbon monoxide test which blew purple in less that 2 seconds.

I phoned the god of all things peugeot and asked a price for a head gasket and am told it could be 700+ depending on bits. I also reminded him that the cam belt had only recently been done with him. so my trusty peugeot friend volunteers his services for a lot of peanut butter sandwiches and some pound notes.

A day later it is apparent (not appeared) that the head was not timed up correctly and that there was no slippage in the crank pulley. Upon removing the head 2 exhaust valves were found to be damaged as well as 2 buckets.

Now we can all argue that you cant warranty a cambelt as you cant guess how its been driven by the owner never mind owners. ( it had 2 owners straight after the cambelt change, me and A.N Other)

I am now down approximately £800 I feel I cant get anything back and I know I am not the only one. Is this bloke ( gods of all things peugeot) employing Monkeys to do his work because I cant imagine him making these mistakes. I had a good mate that bought a 205 converted rebuilt gti6 engine that let go after "minutes" that we couldnt get anywhere with.... So where you see praise be careful. it isnt neccessarily the truth.

I accept theres 3 sides to every story but is doing a 6 belt really this fragile!!!!

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306 less for first time in nearly 7 years. Lets keep it that way... please refuse any offers i make to buy your 306 ( doctors letter supplied by request)

Marmite and cheese sandwiches anyone???

Burns and Mcrae will be forever missed.
x box "yippeekayaymofo"

my point exactly... it isnt rocket science so why all the failures!!??? because somebody isnt timing timing them up right in the first place??

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306 less for first time in nearly 7 years. Lets keep it that way... please refuse any offers i make to buy your 306 ( doctors letter supplied by request)

Marmite and cheese sandwiches anyone???

Burns and Mcrae will be forever missed.
x box "yippeekayaymofo"

spot on, too many last mechanics out there.

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Couldn't be simpler.

3 drill bits and if you use the newer plastic tensioner, it has a mark on it to show you how tight to make it.

I bought a 6 with a 10 month old bill for new belt, crank pulley etc. Hadn't done thousands of miles before it snapped but you could see it was done way too tight and the belt frayed and got caught.

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The same god did my last cambelt on my rallye, and has previously done the belt on the phase 1 that I have now. I can hear the whine that Rich W told me was from the belt being done too tight.

Didnt name who I was getting at. And have had a number of people pm ing me who it was. I have defended you to people constantly over the last 2 years as I have been and am an admirer of the effort and skill that went into yr 205. I just cant stand by and watch people praising you when I am getting a phone call almost daily telling me yet another part of my head is knackered and going to cost another hundred quid.

Whilst I accept that you know what you are doing, how could you not, but perhaps as stated in my post have you employed numpites to do work that you havent checked.
I was with a friend a few months ago who I asked to contact you with reference to his gti6 engined 205 sh"tting itself after less than a lap of cadwell when you blatantly said you accepted no liability responsisbility. I told my mate that he should give you the chance to inspect it and find out what was wrong but he was so annoyed by your initial reaction to him when it dumped its oil trackside that he would never entertain this. It wasnt the customer service I expected from you and since seeing various other engine builds not one had a positive to say and have been talked about in this forum before.

Yes I know peugeot had trouble but believe me most of it was with junior techs trying to do jobs on bonus and airgunning their way through it without due care and attention.

I appreciate your slant Carl, I can see you go to work to earn a living as do a lot of people who have to work to pay for their cars to be repaired, and repaired again and again. You have balls or a front to stand up here, I dont know what gave away who I was talking about so that smoke led to you, the fire. you pointed the finger. I will just wear the 800 quid bill as my mate wore his 1500k and a number of others I can reel off over a grand each.

I was quite lucky really,

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306 less for first time in nearly 7 years. Lets keep it that way... please refuse any offers i make to buy your 306 ( doctors letter supplied by request)

Marmite and cheese sandwiches anyone???

Burns and Mcrae will be forever missed.
x box "yippeekayaymofo"

im sure with that attitude you'll go miles

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Andy, I take it you are referring to your freind who bought Jamie Tonks track car, I would have loved to have it back to look over the issue but what should I do, yes there you go, have fun thrashing it round the track and if it goes wrong bring it back, it has a lifetime warranty? Basically it never came to me, but the guy who bought the car off him after a second hand engine was fitted to it brought it back for faults etc, did you help fit that engine?

Manufacturers have spotters out there that void there warranties on new cars should they be caught out on track! There is a limit to what anyone can can warrant.

basically, your head gasket failed, you previously spent money with me on a timing belt kit, quite some time ago and it has something to do with me??




Carl

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it was one tooth out was breathing from the exhaust valves which pressurised the system... not made it jump a tooth, there was practically nothing in the bores. Like i previously said I am not turning this into a witch hunt. Deliberating it further would not achieve anything more than countless pros and con stories and I accept Carls arguement that a negative gets publicity more than a positive so dont need to push this further. my point is made. If he is getting monkeys to do his work then he needs to check the work. Hindsight on my half might have talked to him more about this but as detailed above I dont believe he would have come up with a solution,

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306 less for first time in nearly 7 years. Lets keep it that way... please refuse any offers i make to buy your 306 ( doctors letter supplied by request)

Marmite and cheese sandwiches anyone???

Burns and Mcrae will be forever missed.
x box "yippeekayaymofo"

Very true, such a good and simple way of timing them up. If it was an alfa twin spark then I suppose you can see why the diyers, use the tipes route.

Carl

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C.G.Cars of Leicester, Peugeot/Citroen/Renault specialist Tel: 01162 624498/07799 405184 WWW.CGCARSLEICESTER.CO.UK
36 narborough road south, Leicester LE3 2fn

MOT station now open, tests £35 with a free retest.
Recovery available with a recovery unit, for those not so local jobs

Also offer the loan of a free courtesy car 306 dturbo

So me asking your friend to bring the car back so I can take a look wasn't the right thing to do? Spending my private after hours time talking to him on the phone regards it and what happened etc.

It then never turned up, you bought a second hand engine and fitted it yourselves, that's up to you. I only found this out when afterwards the car came to me with the new owner for some work, that's when I realised it wasn't the original engine.

If you want to talk, give me a call, that's all I am going to say about the matter, you clearly have a gripe.

Always been approachable and always will.

Carl

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C.G.Cars of Leicester, Peugeot/Citroen/Renault specialist Tel: 01162 624498/07799 405184 WWW.CGCARSLEICESTER.CO.UK
36 narborough road south, Leicester LE3 2fn

MOT station now open, tests £35 with a free retest.
Recovery available with a recovery unit, for those not so local jobs

Also offer the loan of a free courtesy car 306 dturbo

Tongue in cheek mate, most definatly a case of internet sarcasm being mis-understood! Has been a legend in regards to this car since ive had it .

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I suspect this thread should probably just be locked before it turns into "one of those".

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