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 alcon
Senior User  Location: Glasgow Registered: 19 Jan 2005 Posts: 937 Status: Offline |
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Ok, I'm trying to fire up my 6 for the first time in two and a half/three years (can't even remember its that long). Anyway, it wont start. There's fuel in it, I can hear the fuel pump running and I've just connected a new battery. Cranks fine but just won't fire. Brand new spark plugs were fitted just prior to the last time it ran. Any ideas?________________________________________ 1999 GTi-6 (china blue)1999 Rallye (black) |
 Posted 29th Sep 2011 at 10:59
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owain
Seasoned Pro  Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
Post #2
New fuel or old fuel?________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 29th Sep 2011 at 10:59
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monkeyman
Seasoned Pro  Location: Sunny St Albans Registered: 01 Oct 2008 Posts: 1,955 Status: Offline |
Post #3
Gummed injectors?________________________________________ Spanner Monkeys Monkey SpannerForum Search Clicky |
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Posted 29th Sep 2011 at 11:10
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owain
Seasoned Pro Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
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Honkered wangflap?________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 29th Sep 2011 at 11:16
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alcon
Senior User Location: Glasgow Registered: 19 Jan 2005 Posts: 937 Status: Offline |
Post #5
Old fuel. Daft question, but how would I get new fuel in there? Are the injectors easy to clean?________________________________________ 1999 GTi-6 (china blue)1999 Rallye (black) |
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Posted 29th Sep 2011 at 11:16
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owain
Seasoned Pro Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
Post #6
Old fuel will be well and truly scummed up by now. I'd syphon out whatever's in the fuel tank for a start and fill it with new stuff. I think the injectors needs to be professionally cleaned, but just flushing new fuel through might be enough to get them working again if you're lucky. ________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 29th Sep 2011 at 11:19
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alcon
Senior User Location: Glasgow Registered: 19 Jan 2005 Posts: 937 Status: Offline |
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As it needs to be MOT'd etc I need to get it to the garage so I was thinking I might be able to get the AA involved...if they can't start it I might be lucky enough to get towed there. In the meantime I'll try siphoning out the old fuel (two thirds of a tank!) and put some new in________________________________________ 1999 GTi-6 (china blue)1999 Rallye (black) |
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Posted 29th Sep 2011 at 11:27
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owain
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Two thirds? Have fun with that  ________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 29th Sep 2011 at 11:31
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alcon
Senior User Location: Glasgow Registered: 19 Jan 2005 Posts: 937 Status: Offline |
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yeah, that's what I was thinking.....is that not about 40 litres??.....wtf am I meant to do with that?________________________________________ 1999 GTi-6 (china blue)1999 Rallye (black) |
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Posted 29th Sep 2011 at 11:36
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alcon
Senior User Location: Glasgow Registered: 19 Jan 2005 Posts: 937 Status: Offline |
Post #10
how do you siphon actually? suck the end of plastic tube and then hold it lower than the tank or something like that?________________________________________ 1999 GTi-6 (china blue)1999 Rallye (black) |
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Posted 29th Sep 2011 at 11:37
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owain
Seasoned Pro Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
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 Put it in shiny-looking petrol cans and sell it to your friends? ________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 29th Sep 2011 at 11:37
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owain
Seasoned Pro Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
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alcon wrote: how do you siphon actually? suck the end of plastic tube and then hold it lower than the tank or something like that? Spot on. Just make sure it's clear tube so you can see when the petrol's about to reach the end, you don't want a mouthful of *fresh* fuel, let alone manky old skankjuice. ________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 29th Sep 2011 at 11:39
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rikky
🦔 Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,796 Status: Offline |
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i started mine in the garage the other day for the first time since april. wouldn't fire but kept trying toleft it and came back after leaving it on charge for another hour. eventually it fired - literally - firing a massive flame out of the back and melting the coat hung over a bike propped up behind my car not my coat, not my problem ________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 29th Sep 2011 at 11:46
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owain
Seasoned Pro Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
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rikky wrote: not my coat, not my problem  ________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 29th Sep 2011 at 11:49
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alcon
Senior User Location: Glasgow Registered: 19 Jan 2005 Posts: 937 Status: Offline |
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owain wrote: Put it in shiny-looking petrol cans and sell it to your friends? My hire car is due back tomorrow with the same amount of fuel I got it with.....two thirds of a tank...  ________________________________________ 1999 GTi-6 (china blue)1999 Rallye (black) |
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Posted 29th Sep 2011 at 11:53
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owain
Seasoned Pro Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
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quote: [quote="alcon"My hire car is due back tomorrow with the same amount of fuel I got it with.....two thirds of a tank... Now you're getting it ________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 29th Sep 2011 at 11:57
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ballardpaul
Seasoned Pro  Location: Croydon Registered: 22 Jul 2008 Posts: 4,135 Status: Offline |
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Don't they have anti siphon valves on them? ________________________________________ Phase 2 Blaze GTi 6 (Standard) SoldPhase 3 Supercharged China GTi 6 (249.8 BHP) Sold Phase 3 Supercharged Diablo GTi 6 (443 BHP)Sold Nissan 350Z (300 BHP) |
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Posted 29th Sep 2011 at 11:59
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rich_w
Seasoned Pro  Location: Havant, Hampshire Registered: 29 Jul 2004 Posts: 5,412 Status: Offline |
Post #18
The fuel won't be your problem, even after that time it should still start and run. I've seen fuel left for twice as long as that, and it's been ok.It may not run great, but it should at least fire. I would check to see you actually have spark. It's been known for the immobiliser to lose it's memory if it's not been powered up for a long time, I would check this isn't keeping the ECU in a locked state and stopping the spark. ________________________________________ Contact Details:rich@lynxpowerengineering.co.uk 07732 822546 |
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Posted 29th Sep 2011 at 12:10
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alcon
Senior User Location: Glasgow Registered: 19 Jan 2005 Posts: 937 Status: Offline |
Post #19
I never checked for spark, I'll go and do that now and report back________________________________________ 1999 GTi-6 (china blue)1999 Rallye (black) |
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Posted 29th Sep 2011 at 12:19
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alcon
Senior User Location: Glasgow Registered: 19 Jan 2005 Posts: 937 Status: Offline |
Post #20
its really difficult to see...I took a spark plug out and connected it back to the coil pack and then turned the engine over but I couldn't see anything. Should I be able to see a distinct spark from the end of the plug? It didn't feel like the plug was really sitting well in the end of the rubber 'tube' part of the coil pack.Or have I done this completely wrong!? ________________________________________ 1999 GTi-6 (china blue)1999 Rallye (black) |
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Posted 29th Sep 2011 at 12:37
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
Post #21
need to have the plug earthed________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 29th Sep 2011 at 12:41
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rikky
🦔 Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,796 Status: Offline |
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are you contacting the plug within a metal surface? you should see the spark and you could, if wanted, get a good belt off it using a spanner or molegrips edit> beaten by mei ________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 29th Sep 2011 at 12:43
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alcon
Senior User Location: Glasgow Registered: 19 Jan 2005 Posts: 937 Status: Offline |
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no, i never contacted with a metal surface....I'll go and try again will I________________________________________ 1999 GTi-6 (china blue)1999 Rallye (black) |
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Posted 29th Sep 2011 at 12:56
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
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alcon wrote: I'll go and try again will I I dunno, will you?  ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 29th Sep 2011 at 13:18
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owain
Seasoned Pro Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
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I dunno, he might?________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 29th Sep 2011 at 13:20
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