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Author Subject: 306 gti6 6th gear
gti6power

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Post #1
i was wondering if anyone knows why my gti6 wont rev above 6500rpm when its in 6th gear but will hit limiter in all the other gears, is there some sort of limiter in the ecu?
Posted 18th Sep 2011 at 10:48
welshpug!

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Post #2
6500 is where peak power is, at that speed it just will not go much further.

why do you want to go faster anyway?!

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Posted 18th Sep 2011 at 11:05
darzmat

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Post #3
the majority of standard cars wont hit limiter in top gear.

one of my old mondeos a 1.8 16v did 130, but it was only at 5500rpm, and wouldnt budge above that.

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Posted 18th Sep 2011 at 11:09
gti6power

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Post #4
i want to get it off the clock
Posted 18th Sep 2011 at 11:16
dan86

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Post #5
Is it an electronic limiter written into the mapping of the ecu or can it not go any faster because peak is at 6500rpm?

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Posted 18th Sep 2011 at 11:20
welshpug!

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welshpug! wrote:
6500 is where peak power is, at that speed it just will not go much further.

why do you want to go faster anyway?!


this

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Posted 18th Sep 2011 at 11:28
gti6power

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Post #7
my theory is that if it wasnt limited to 6500rpm in 6th then it should hit nearly 150mph
Posted 18th Sep 2011 at 11:38
prism7guy

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Post #8
Air resistance is your problem Wink

You need huge amounts of power to make an extra few mph at that sort of speed with that sort of air resistance.

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Posted 18th Sep 2011 at 11:42
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Post #9
would a re-map sort it out and de-restrict it?
Posted 18th Sep 2011 at 12:11
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Post #10
no, there is no restriction, it simply has no more power.

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Posted 18th Sep 2011 at 12:12
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What about if he modified the throttle pedal to allow it to be pressed further? Is that causing a restriction?

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Posted 18th Sep 2011 at 12:56
welshpug!

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yeah, cut a square out of the carpet Thumbs up

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Posted 18th Sep 2011 at 13:27
cwspellowe

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Brilliant thanks Mei, just tried it but there's a rubber bung there, should I remove that too?

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Posted 18th Sep 2011 at 15:01
prism7guy

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Post #14
Chris, get your angle grinder out and chop away at everything you possibly can under the throttle pedal.
Mine hits 180mph since i did this tweak.

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Posted 18th Sep 2011 at 15:41
dan86

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Out of curiosity, can the supercharged lads do 150 mph then?

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Posted 18th Sep 2011 at 18:03
welshpug!

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Post #16
high boost does definitely as peak power is higher in the revs, not sure about low boost.

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Posted 18th Sep 2011 at 18:05
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I think i've read 162mph mentioned somewhere, i'd assume thats high boost.

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Posted 18th Sep 2011 at 18:15
cwspellowe

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Post #18
zac had his off the clock and it was still pulling iirc

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Posted 18th Sep 2011 at 19:29
prism7guy

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Post #19
I'm sure the 162mph was tomtom reading. I've had mine off the clocks on the autobahn with 136mph on tomtom.

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Posted 18th Sep 2011 at 20:53
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Post #20
prism7guy wrote:
I'm sure the 162mph was tomtom reading. I've had mine off the clocks on the autobahn with 136mph on tomtom.


I'm curious to know this. I saw some people got 163 on the Autobahn, but unsure if its low or high boost.

I swear I remember reading that Pauls SC China hit 157 on the rollers?

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Posted 19th Sep 2011 at 12:23
mcfc1987

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Post #21
153 on low boost was recorded on a vbox, with a passenger and a good tank of fuel i believe.

I forget who it was, Cosmic Spanner iirc

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Posted 19th Sep 2011 at 12:51
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mcfc1987 wrote:
153 on low boost was recorded on a vbox, with a passenger and a good tank of fuel i believe.

I forget who it was, Cosmic Spanner iirc


No passenger, no fuel and no interior should see me to about 155 then when I go Germany next year Superman

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Posted 19th Sep 2011 at 14:53
walker_texasranger

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What about with Jamma's phone APP? Will that make it go faster?

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Posted 19th Sep 2011 at 15:47
ballardpaul

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Post #24
cjm_harris wrote:
prism7guy wrote:
I'm sure the 162mph was tomtom reading. I've had mine off the clocks on the autobahn with 136mph on tomtom.


I'm curious to know this. I saw some people got 163 on the Autobahn, but unsure if its low or high boost.

I swear I remember reading that Pauls SC China hit 157 on the rollers?


Yeah on rollers it did IIRC.

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Posted 19th Sep 2011 at 15:51
heliosphan

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Post #25
ballardpaul wrote:
cjm_harris wrote:
prism7guy wrote:
I'm sure the 162mph was tomtom reading. I've had mine off the clocks on the autobahn with 136mph on tomtom.


I'm curious to know this. I saw some people got 163 on the Autobahn, but unsure if its low or high boost.

I swear I remember reading that Pauls SC China hit 157 on the rollers?


Yeah on rollers it did IIRC.


Which means it didn't have air hitting it at 157mph. I wonder what percentage is taken off the speed (in relation to power) as air velocity increases...
Posted 20th Sep 2011 at 18:59

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