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ben306

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Im struggling with my DS2500's again, last time it felt like the system needed bleeding, anyhow after a few laps of snetterton, I had no pad left. Been on stardard pads for a while and now got my next trackday sorted.

Ferodo replaced the DS2500's so just fitted the new ones but still not sure on them, dont seem to be giving a firm pedal feel in comparison to the standard units, even after bedding them in.

Anyone else having issues? Just cannot figure it out, but no good sticking with standard as Ill have brake fade after a lap or 2.

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Posted 21st Jun 2011 at 18:46
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I have some unused 1155's for sale if you want to give them a go...

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Posted 21st Jun 2011 at 18:51
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ben306

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Are they the ones that cover the full disc? Could be interested. Tried the 1144 and wasnt impressed. Then had about 3 or 4 sets of the DS2500's and all have been great up until the last 2 sets!

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Posted 21st Jun 2011 at 19:14
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Daft question, but are you sure you haven't cooked your brake fluid? Or is pedal feeling restored by switching pads?

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Posted 21st Jun 2011 at 22:49
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I run 1155's with 4 pots and they are good.

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Posted 21st Jun 2011 at 23:53
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CL RC6 FTW! Wink

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Posted 22nd Jun 2011 at 04:56
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jeffers wrote:
CL RC6 FTW! Wink


If you like replacing brake discs every track day LOL

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Posted 22nd Jun 2011 at 05:40
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cwspellowe wrote:
jeffers wrote:
CL RC6 FTW! Wink


If you like replacing brake discs every track day LOL


You'll also need to buy clay bars by the pallet load to keep the bodywork dust free!

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Posted 22nd Jun 2011 at 16:28
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Ive got DS2500's on both my cars, one is the type that covers the entire disc and the other is the normal smaller size. I havent had issues with either set although they wont have been made recently, ive had one set on for a couple of years now and the other set were bought as new but unused from someone on here so i have no idea when they would have been bought/made originally.

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Posted 22nd Jun 2011 at 22:14
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www.auto-nation.co.uk

I have accounts with Mintex and Ferodo. Let me know if I can help.

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Posted 23rd Jun 2011 at 01:34
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lotek

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DS2500 pads are SHIT Yes

im using 1155 mow and they are better but when hot they fade aswell,
Im going for 4pots and RC6 Yes

even on standard calipers the RC6 is phenonimal Yes
Posted 23rd Jun 2011 at 02:44
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cwspellowe wrote:
jeffers wrote:
CL RC6 FTW! Wink


If you like replacing brake discs every track day LOL

Admittedly they do eat discs, but not as bad as u say... personally i think its a trade off Ferodos recently seem to fall apart as soon as they've had a half decent heat cycle, and admittedly RC 6's do make a bit of a mess BUT they are awesome even on standard calipers although as was pointed out they do eat discs but if the car only really does Trackdays and the journey to and from then the "eating discs" is inevitable. At the end of the day they're a consumable part which can be picked up relatively cheaply, and if u do trackdays and expect not to do consumables in on a regular basis maybe u shouldn't be doing them.... Just my 2p's worth! Wink

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Posted 23rd Jun 2011 at 04:24
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ben, RC6 pads and nothing else, just gives you a reason to keep your car looking fresh Yes
and besides discs are 20 odd quid off Buypartsby Cool
always been fine for me and never warped
Posted 23rd Jun 2011 at 12:42
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ben306

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Where and how much are the RC6 pads?

I must admit, Im tempted to try another compound pad, be it the m1155 or whatever. Just a shame the ds2500's have changed, had about 3 years using them without issue, then the last 2 sets in the last 12 months have just been crap!

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Posted 23rd Jun 2011 at 13:11
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I've used 2500's for a couple of years with no probs but has to get some good fluid, plus I ran mine down less than 3mm of pad and it buggered my disc, I'm now running ds3000's. Havnt track'd them yet but have done a couple or 130+-0mph stops with not a hint of fade. They better work well for nearly £160 a set. Will let you know how they are on the ring in a couple of weeks
Posted 23rd Jun 2011 at 14:53
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Posted 23rd Jun 2011 at 15:01
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ben306 wrote:
Where and how much are the RC6 pads?

I must admit, Im tempted to try another compound pad, be it the m1155 or whatever. Just a shame the ds2500's have changed, had about 3 years using them without issue, then the last 2 sets in the last 12 months have just been crap!

Buy the ones for a Clio 172 there the same pad but £50 cheaper! Wink

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Posted 23rd Jun 2011 at 15:43
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i'm running RC5+ now with my lotus AP's 60 quid cheaper than my ds3000,s

these pad's and calipers are amazing Smile

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Posted 23rd Jun 2011 at 21:50
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ben306 wrote:
Where and how much are the RC6 pads?

I must admit, Im tempted to try another compound pad, be it the m1155 or whatever. Just a shame the ds2500's have changed, had about 3 years using them without issue, then the last 2 sets in the last 12 months have just been crap!


With your white wheels and bodywork!? LOL Steer clear of RC6 if you value your paint Wink

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Posted 23rd Jun 2011 at 20:09
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rub vaseline along the body pre use LOL
Posted 23rd Jun 2011 at 21:35
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jeffers wrote:
Buy the ones for a Clio 172 there the same pad but £50 cheaper! Wink


intriguing, gti6's are pattern 4027, Clio is 4026, mad that there's that much difference but I guess there's more clio's about?

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Posted 23rd Jun 2011 at 21:50
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welshpug! wrote:
jeffers wrote:
Buy the ones for a Clio 172 there the same pad but £50 cheaper! Wink


intriguing, gti6's are pattern 4027, Clio is 4026, mad that there's that much difference but I guess there's more clio's about?

Well I was told they fitted, ordered them and when they turned up pit them back to back with the old pads and they're as near as exactly the same back plate etc ..... Strange but true!

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Posted 23rd Jun 2011 at 23:15
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I think its a similar thing to 406 calipers, most use the same ones which afaik use the same back plate as the gti6, and they're another £20 more LOL

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Posted 23rd Jun 2011 at 23:26
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Have CL started fitting anti-rattle springs now, or do they still come without them?

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Posted 23rd Jun 2011 at 23:27
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Mine haven't got them but they don't make any noise....Unsure

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Posted 23rd Jun 2011 at 23:52
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