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cjm_harris

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Hello people,

I have had a quick look through threads but can't seem to find exactly what I am looking for..

Basically, I have changed my 6 into a weekend/fun car so I can start doing trackdays and take it to the 'ring etc. Since stripping out the interior and making some suspension changes I have found the rear end of the car to be a lot more "loose" shall we say. For example when I went out for a blast at the weekend on a quiet b road I know, there is a right turn that goes straight into a left. Before the changes I was able to brake through the first turn and power through the second. When I did this at the weekend it unsettled the car and went basically sideways through the second turn Laugh

I know that is a pretty bad example as its not the ideal way to take corners, but it definately isnt as planted as it used to be. If I stay flat through a bend though, there is no issues and feels lots better than before.

Current spec is:

- Stripped interior
- Toyo R888 tyres fitted

Front Suspension:

- KW v2 coilovers (set quite stiff)
- RichW roller bearing wishbone bushes
- New balljoints/pinch bolts etc
- OMP upper strut brace

Rear Suspension:

- Bilstein dampers (unsure of which ones)
- Stiffened rear beam mounts

I assume the problem is down to no weight over back axle, and rear suspension softer than the front, so on the cards is some solid mounts and hybrid arb and move battery to boot.

Just wondering if that will solve the issues, and if there is anything I can do in the mean time. Maybe soften the coilovers, or play with tyre pressures?

The other thought I had was running the 888's and not getting any heat into rears?

Any thoughts/advice welcome Cheers

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Posted 5th May 2011 at 18:21
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Post #2
How much is it lowered front and back? sounds like you will need to adjust the rake to your driving style.

Oh and what weight springs are you running on the KW's and i assume standard TB's at the back?

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Posted 5th May 2011 at 18:35
cjm_harris

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Post #3
Was lowered 40mm on front, and back done to match (on previous setup) looks to be the same height now.

The KW's were bought second hand, but they are the ones from the group buy on here. Not sure on what weight springs they are. Will it say on the springs?

I will get the rake measurements tonight, but looks like front is slightly lower than rear.

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Posted 5th May 2011 at 19:08
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The front wants to be slightly lower. Its just down to you losing weight in the rear.

Man up and slide it about you pansy.

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Posted 6th May 2011 at 00:11
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Post #5
adam b wrote:
The front wants to be slightly lower. Its just down to you losing weight in the rear.

Man up and slide it about you pansy.


I forgot to get rake measurements tonight, but front is sitting slightly lower than rear Yes

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Posted 6th May 2011 at 02:02
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Post #6
you need the solid beam mounts and hybrid arb maybe even thicker bars. if you think the shocks aren't up to it get some zx billys have this set up and i hardly get any loose moments. also make sure your compensator is free lol

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Posted 6th May 2011 at 03:22
cjm_harris

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Yeah I thought about that brake compensator, but had a quick look and couldnt see where it was Doh

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Posted 6th May 2011 at 03:54
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Driver side rear lol lots of oil mole grips and arm movement

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Posted 6th May 2011 at 13:44
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cjm_harris wrote:
Yeah I thought about that brake compensator, but had a quick look and couldnt see where it was Doh


Yours is a 1999 phase 3? My car of the same age aint got a brake compensator, dont think any of the later cars with EBD had them.

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Posted 6th May 2011 at 20:06
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Im on with making some solid beam mounts now, so should have some ready for the end of next week if your interested in some chris?

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Posted 6th May 2011 at 20:20
cjm_harris

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birk wrote:
Im on with making some solid beam mounts now, so should have some ready for the end of next week if your interested in some chris?


I will be interested in a couple of weeks mate Yes

It says £120 in your sig, do I get any money off that if I send you my old mounts back? Smile

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Posted 6th May 2011 at 20:29
cjm_harris

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matt evans wrote:
cjm_harris wrote:
Yeah I thought about that brake compensator, but had a quick look and couldnt see where it was Doh


Yours is a 1999 phase 3? My car of the same age aint got a brake compensator, dont think any of the later cars with EBD had them.


Yeah, had a search on the forum and found that cars with EBD don't have them. What's EBD? electronic brake distribution? Dunno

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Posted 6th May 2011 at 20:30
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Yeah phase 3 Doh

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Posted 6th May 2011 at 20:46
birk

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cjm_harris wrote:
birk wrote:
Im on with making some solid beam mounts now, so should have some ready for the end of next week if your interested in some chris?


I will be interested in a couple of weeks mate Yes

It says £120 in your sig, do I get any money off that if I send you my old mounts back? Smile


Yes mate, £15 refund for your old mounts Smile

Couple of weeks should be perfect for me aswell, will deff have some made up for then.

Dan

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Posted 6th May 2011 at 21:00

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