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gtomi-6

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Its not costing me much really

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Posted 3rd May 2011 at 18:26
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Up to you mate but £ is £ and at the end of the day.......................its night
Posted 3rd May 2011 at 18:27
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I can completely understand you wanting it to be perfect, but what's "perfect"? You don't know as you haven't driven it.

A completely flat car is *not* necessarily what you want. If it was, people would just weld up their rear axle and have done with it.

All you'll do is end up sinking a lot of money into a car and not understanding it at all.

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Posted 3rd May 2011 at 18:31
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Haha quality haven't heard that one before!!!

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Posted 3rd May 2011 at 18:31
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lol knew you would like that one!!!!
Posted 3rd May 2011 at 18:34
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can you tell that im so busy here in afghan!!!

So much to do on my day off lol
Posted 3rd May 2011 at 18:36
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Oww your over there now haha. Funny stuff. Ill catch you when you get back bud. I'm away in st tropez for 3 weeks in july but then ill be around. Sent you a txt this morning take it you don't have ur phone

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Posted 3rd May 2011 at 18:50
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I just want the car to be spot on. I don't mind spending the money on it. You will be the only person on here with a 4x4 306 deffinatly need to take me out in that


You're about 10 years too late, at least LOL

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Posted 3rd May 2011 at 18:57
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Oww really?? U got one 2 phil?

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Posted 3rd May 2011 at 19:01
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Built the suspension for one a while back for someone, he used to be on here, although I've never seen him post LOL

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Posted 3rd May 2011 at 19:24
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Wonder if its the same bloke?

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Posted 3rd May 2011 at 19:39
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No bren did his all on his own, dont care if someone else has one, just worries me using t16 running gear, will have 3 lots of spare running gear but still!
And it still uses the self leveling suspension!
Posted 3rd May 2011 at 20:15
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No tom not allowed to use my phone mate, i said i would never come again but 25k for 4 months is hard to say no to, thats the only way i can afford the toys i have!
Posted 3rd May 2011 at 20:17
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pugheaven wrote:
No bren did his all on his own, dont care if someone else has one, just worries me using t16 running gear, will have 3 lots of spare running gear but still!
And it still uses the self leveling suspension!


Yeah, there's a couple on the T16 gear about.

The one I worked on had an elite sequential 'box in and 7 series diffs front and rear.

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Posted 3rd May 2011 at 21:07
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gtomi-6 wrote:
Hi guys, I need some uprated torsion bars for my new beam, got contacted on here via a pm buy a guy that makes them. He needs to know what spring rates the fronts are so he can get the torsion bars the same. I'm getting kw variant 2 coilys. Would anyone be able to help?? I told he I don't want to do any machining to the rear arms and they have to be a direct replacement. Thanks, tom


All this information was previously posted Wink

KWs come with 343lb springs.

My guide for springs/bars selection (based on getting optimal “wheel frequency”):

Rear bars | Rear stiffness % | Front springs

20mm | 100% | 110lb (i.e. standard)
21mm | 122% | 150-180lb (i.e. Eibach 7011)
23.5mm | 191% | 300-350lb
25mm | 244% | 450lb

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Posted 4th May 2011 at 01:58
gtomi-6

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thanks great help

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Posted 4th May 2011 at 01:59
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is that table still valid with a hybrid ARB fitted?

ive gone from 325lb on front to 220 and i think its going to betoo soft?
im on 21mm bars and hybrid ARB
Posted 4th May 2011 at 02:03
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Rick, give it a go. This is only a guide – it depends a lot on the dampers / exact weight distribution / tyres etc.

As for ARBs – you use the ARB to tweak the handling (some people do not run them at all on 205s – I personally prefer to have them fitted), while spring rates are more a function of the weight of the car / intended use.

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