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few pictures if it helps anyoneClicky
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 russbez
Seasoned Pro  Location: Inverness-Shire Registered: 19 Dec 2005 Posts: 7,459 Status: Offline |
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 Posted 19th Jan 2011 at 16:01
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russbez
Seasoned Pro Location: Inverness-Shire Registered: 19 Dec 2005 Posts: 7,459 Status: Offline |
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more discussion here________________________________________ TEAM HIGH BOOST SUPERCHARGED RALLYEMy Rallye project thread |
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Posted 19th Jan 2011 at 17:54
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ravemercer
Regular  Location: kent Registered: 18 Jan 2009 Posts: 422 Status: Offline |
Post #28
Good pics gives me a nice view of what I'll be doing.  |
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Posted 21st Jan 2011 at 01:39
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russbez
Seasoned Pro Location: Inverness-Shire Registered: 19 Dec 2005 Posts: 7,459 Status: Offline |
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im struggling with drivers sidedidnt attempt long at it as i ended up at pub but when i try and take track rod off, it feels like the whole ram is twisting.... dont want to damage it should i be holding the ram while its extended and try and remove the knuckle of the rod then? use a pair of vice grips on the ram? dont want to damage the ram wish i had access to heat  ________________________________________ TEAM HIGH BOOST SUPERCHARGED RALLYEMy Rallye project thread |
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Posted 21st Jan 2011 at 14:01
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jim01uk
Seasoned Pro  Location: around Registered: 16 Dec 2005 Posts: 8,996 Status: Offline |
Post #30
go to B&Q and buy a small blowtorch. I use them all the time for removing tough nuts and bolts!Handy for setting spiders on fire in the garage too. |
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Posted 21st Jan 2011 at 14:15
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owain
Seasoned Pro  Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
Post #31
Damn right, think I got mine from Screwfix. It's nothing massive but really handy for jobs like this. Or, as Jim points out, death and destruction. ________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 21st Jan 2011 at 16:54
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clen666
Seasoned Pro  Location: Co. Durham Registered: 12 Feb 2009 Posts: 2,401 Status: Offline |
Post #32
anyone know if the rods are the same on a xsara rack as the 6s? I assumed they were but ecp have different part no.'s ________________________________________ Team 'unintentional rat look' |
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Posted 21st Jan 2011 at 22:06
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russbez
Seasoned Pro Location: Inverness-Shire Registered: 19 Dec 2005 Posts: 7,459 Status: Offline |
Post #33
not sure if they are same mate...i used a little bit of heat for rods, now got huge bottles setup on my garage. will be less drunken partys in the garage this summer, the beetles and spiders will be running in fear  done the drivers side last week, done it with wishbone on, on full lock (cant remember which way) that little bit of heat made it soo much easyer, just got vice grips on in no more... turn her off and she comes off without twisting steering ram/wrack too much ________________________________________ TEAM HIGH BOOST SUPERCHARGED RALLYEMy Rallye project thread |
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Posted 28th Jan 2011 at 20:28
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ravemercer
Regular Location: kent Registered: 18 Jan 2009 Posts: 422 Status: Offline |
Post #34
Done the lot last saturday went well but only problem was the passengers side had a rubber boot that would no come off even in the haynes manual it doesnt say how to get that side out in the end i cut the f*cker off then released the trackrod got a universal c.v boot and cable tied it over the tie rod. |
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Posted 29th Jan 2011 at 04:30
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russbez
Seasoned Pro Location: Inverness-Shire Registered: 19 Dec 2005 Posts: 7,459 Status: Offline |
Post #35
if you look at my pictures you can see the peugoet oneonce its on its a f*cking nightmare, i used a flat screw driver to twat it off with hammer.... got at it from under chassis putting the new one back on was also interesting, had to push it on at 3 points to get f*cker back on. Lucky mates were in for a social few and were there to help ________________________________________ TEAM HIGH BOOST SUPERCHARGED RALLYEMy Rallye project thread |
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Posted 1st Feb 2011 at 13:55
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daveboy
Senior User  Location: Sixville Registered: 17 Mar 2005 Posts: 885 Status: Offline |
Post #36
Take it that it's not just me who's had issues changing the TRE then?!Finally managed to loosen the bolt using a blowtorch, but when trying to unscrew the TRE it just won't budge. Tried heating it without success so just left it doused in WD40 for a bit. But if anyone's got any suggestions on how to do it they'd be greatly received! |
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Posted 14th Feb 2011 at 00:17
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smegal
Seasoned Pro  Location: Leeds Registered: 26 Dec 2005 Posts: 5,940 Status: Offline |
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daveboy wrote: Take it that it's not just me who's had issues changing the TRE then?! Finally managed to loosen the bolt using a blowtorch, but when trying to unscrew the TRE it just won't budge. Tried heating it without success so just left it doused in WD40 for a bit. But if anyone's got any suggestions on how to do it they'd be greatly received! Take it to somewhere that does the tracking (it'll need doing anyway after fitting a new TRE) then ask them to fit it. Most places won't charge extra. ________________________________________ Ex SC-6Now in a Megane R26 |
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Posted 14th Feb 2011 at 01:07
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ravemercer
Regular Location: kent Registered: 18 Jan 2009 Posts: 422 Status: Offline |
Post #38
Unscrewing the TRE from the track rod should be fairly easy I usually crack the locknut then get a spanner on the track rod undo by hand usually undo first time.  |
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Posted 14th Feb 2011 at 03:02
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro  Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,901 Status: Offline |
Post #39
Are these simple enough to change?I have a xsara vts or vtr (whichever it is cant remember)rack on the bench in the garage, its only done about 35k miles but while its off the car I may aswell freshen it up with some new genuine arms. I take it I just undo the gaitor/rubber boots fold them back then untwist the arms uzing mole grips and stilsons, is there a special tool I can get to help and if there is would it be usable on other cars eg fords? Thanks fellow liveforthreeosixies ________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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Posted 7th Jan 2013 at 15:16
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro  Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,865 Status: Offline |
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I'm slightly confused, But are they all actually talking about track rod ENDS in this (old) thread because some of the descriptions sound like one and some the other....If thats the case i might leave fitting the ends until I get it tracked and get them to do it at the same time. Seeing as i'll need to drive straight there anyway. ________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 7th Jan 2013 at 15:40
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rikky
Pikey Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,801 Status: Offline |
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did my 205 one the other week, just put the whole rack into a vice and a spanner on the locknut to undo it. didn't wind the whole tie rods out or anything. just the TRE________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 7th Jan 2013 at 15:42
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,901 Status: Offline |
Post #42
lol, I crashed the work car today twiceFirst time just understeered, pressed the brakes withe the s**ttest padsin ever with s**t discs and tyres made from recycled plastic and it locked up immediatly, on a 100 degree bend, a curb then straight the other side of the curb a huge stonewall from a house/ converted farm barn, ended up hitting the curb with front wheel and luckily i had it sideways by then instead of straight on understeer so the rear wheel hit the curb just after the front bouncing us off away from the solid wall, got away with bending the f**k out of the front wheel and just scraping the muck of the rear bumoer and tyre, the spare was flat and this was at 4 am, so we carried on anddrove 160 mile before finding a garage willing to put the undamaged tyre on out spare rim. I managed another 30 mile before pulling into services near chester and come off the roundabout then left round the bend,straight on again into and nearly up them huge curbs designed to deflect hgvs away back into the road, managed to drive back home with the steering wheel 100 degree out and slightly dodgy handling, took the car home removed wheel to find the track rod arm bent round , and a tiny scrape on the front bumper which is not niticable anyway seen as its a total shed anyway.Its been quite a interesting day, I think the 2 in back s**t thereselve a bit ________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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Posted 8th Jan 2013 at 21:35
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dangti6
aka JKshooter  Location: Taunton, Somerset Registered: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 10,308 Status: Offline |
Post #43
So I get the impression the way you fitted the components was poor if that happened. ________________________________________  |
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Posted 8th Jan 2013 at 21:45
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,901 Status: Offline |
Post #44
What components all ive done is straighten the arm out with a long bar, reset the tracking using stringline and put some grease in the inner rod end balljoint thing, I couldnt get the arm off for the life of me, no spanner cutout and no space either, its a ford focus.I bled the brakes up a while back but it barely improved it, cheap s**t friction material and s**t tyres with 4 men and around 60-70 stone of weight plus nearly a full tank, and wet greasy roads and deisel spilt, and anything else I think of I will add lol ________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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Posted 8th Jan 2013 at 22:02
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woody.
Senior User  Location: London Registered: 18 May 2009 Posts: 806 Status: Offline |
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and did you see that dog!  |
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Posted 8th Jan 2013 at 22:19
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,901 Status: Offline |
Post #46
yep there was a 2 legged 2 wheeled dog on one side and on the other I then noticed a stripper with big bangersbangers dancing it just a pair of skimpy knickers in the rain, next thing bang________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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Posted 8th Jan 2013 at 22:29
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clen666
Seasoned Pro Location: Co. Durham Registered: 12 Feb 2009 Posts: 2,401 Status: Offline |
Post #47
I'm confused, does this story not have anything to do with track rods other than bending one, amongst other damage, then?________________________________________ Team 'unintentional rat look' |
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Posted 8th Jan 2013 at 22:38
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dangti6
aka JKshooter Location: Taunton, Somerset Registered: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 10,308 Status: Offline |
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Insert midget pushing a wheelchair pic here.________________________________________ |
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Posted 8th Jan 2013 at 22:50
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,901 Status: Offline |
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clen666 wrote: I'm confused, does this story not have anything to do with track rods other than bending one, amongst other damage, then? Well I could say its related other than bending one if somebody knoes how to remove them from a focus? Didn't damage anything else other than the wheel in the first crash, I do not know how we scraped through today by the skin of our teeth and got off so lightly ________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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Posted 8th Jan 2013 at 22:52
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clen666
Seasoned Pro Location: Co. Durham Registered: 12 Feb 2009 Posts: 2,401 Status: Offline |
Post #50
Ah I see.Sounds like you got off lightly with minimal damage then! ________________________________________ Team 'unintentional rat look' |
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Posted 8th Jan 2013 at 22:56
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