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 chris with a pug
Seasoned Pro  Location: Southampton Registered: 16 Feb 2003 Posts: 5,366 Status: Offline |
Post #1
I am looking at getting one of these to fit to the Pug, but am worried they wont last verylong with the car off. Does anyone have experience of this.The car will have no radio, heater air con nothing. But will have central locking and an alarm. Any Ideas? |
 Posted 20th Dec 2010 at 04:04
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pete_rallye
Seasoned Pro  Location: Yorkshire Registered: 12 Dec 2002 Posts: 5,253 Status: Offline |
Post #2
In my experience they last pretty well. They generally have a similar capacity to a standard battery but just in a smaller lighter package. If the cars in daily use it will be fine, if it's stood for long periods of time it would be worthwhile investing in a decent charger.I have a CTEK XS 3600 which apparently 'conditions' the battery. You can just plug it in and leave it which is good and so far has done a good job. ________________________________________ Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 1Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 2 Lap of the 'ring |
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Posted 20th Dec 2010 at 04:11
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chris with a pug
Seasoned Pro Location: Southampton Registered: 16 Feb 2003 Posts: 5,366 Status: Offline |
Post #3
so would an odyssy 40 be upto the job? |
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Posted 20th Dec 2010 at 04:12
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pete_rallye
Seasoned Pro Location: Yorkshire Registered: 12 Dec 2002 Posts: 5,253 Status: Offline |
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An extreme racing 40? It says upto 6 litres race engine, which, given you'd expect it to be a high compression engine would be more than ample.My touring car runs a Varley Red Top 25, which is about twice the size of my old standard engine car's battery which was a red top 700, which was about 25cmx25cmx10cm and weighed about 2kg. There generally fine as long as the car starts quickly. I occasionally have issues with race spark plugs that won't start when cold, then I have to use a booster pack after 4 or 5 attempts. ________________________________________ Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 1Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 2 Lap of the 'ring |
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Posted 20th Dec 2010 at 04:41
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chris with a pug
Seasoned Pro Location: Southampton Registered: 16 Feb 2003 Posts: 5,366 Status: Offline |
Post #5
well my engine will be low compression because of the charger. I was just worried about how well they lasted with the car off. |
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Posted 20th Dec 2010 at 04:43
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miles
Seasoned Pro  Location: Ringwood Registered: 28 Dec 2002 Posts: 3,433 Status: Offline |
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Have to go with Varley too, Last very well to the extent of not using it for 6 months and starting up the V6 on the button.As with all these things buy cheap and buy twice, Varley's are only made up in Romsey but they don;t deal direct with the Public, It's a huge place that does stacks of Dry Cell Batteries ________________________________________ 306 Rallye Sptint/Race Car, 205 CTI 1.9 8v to name a fewRoad, Track and Race/Rally car preparation to your personal requirements, Full Workshop & Diagnostic Facilities New and Second parts, from Plugs to Turbo's We now also carry out Routine Servicing www.pugracing.com & FB Page, https://www.facebook.com/PugRacing Ebay; http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Pug-Racing-Shop 2012/2013/2014/2019 Class Winners at Gurston Down Speed Hillclimb & Joint overall, Class record too along the way, |
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Posted 20th Dec 2010 at 05:56
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chris with a pug
Seasoned Pro Location: Southampton Registered: 16 Feb 2003 Posts: 5,366 Status: Offline |
Post #7
I heard good things about odyssy. will have a look at the other ones mentioned |
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Posted 20th Dec 2010 at 05:57
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro  Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
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We're using a 40 on the V10, never seem to have any trouble with them, been on the past 3 buggies and they've never had any issues either, even starting up after spending the weekend sat in the frost in parce ferme. (which used to take a few goes on the old Foucart, cold plugs)________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 20th Dec 2010 at 06:37
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chris with a pug
Seasoned Pro Location: Southampton Registered: 16 Feb 2003 Posts: 5,366 Status: Offline |
Post #9
so the oddysey and the Varley are the same sort of price. So which one? Or r they both the same? |
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Posted 24th Dec 2010 at 21:18
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smighall
Smeg-all  Location: b*tching and Whinging Registered: 03 Mar 2005 Posts: 10,012 Status: Offline |
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I use a Varley 15 i think on the Caterham, and never had any issues starting it.________________________________________  Seat Leon Cupra FR / 306 GTI6 / Breaking 205 GTI6 / Caterham 7 / Mercedes Sprinter 311CDI LWB Sold: Fisher Fury - Laguna DCI Estate - P1 306 XSI - E30 BMW 325i Baur Convertible - Daihatsu Fourtack - Suzuki GSXR600 - 205 Rallye |
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Posted 24th Dec 2010 at 22:17
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chris with a pug
Seasoned Pro Location: Southampton Registered: 16 Feb 2003 Posts: 5,366 Status: Offline |
Post #11
I am going for the 30 variant of which ever, they can cope up to 3.5 litres the 40 a bit over kill.By the sounds of it Varely is te way to go |
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Posted 24th Dec 2010 at 22:18
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pdd144c
Senior User  Location: Southampton Registered: 09 Dec 2005 Posts: 550 Status: Offline |
Post #12
Both do the same job just as well as the other... 25 or 30 will be fine.________________________________________ FOR SALE205 Turbo Technics complete and 306 Rallye Race Build breaking. |
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Posted 27th Dec 2010 at 04:20
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey  Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #13
Just make sure you run a set of battery leads out to a connector under the car somewhere as you are ditching your door locks are'nt you. If it goes flat you will be locked out and you will never be able to climb through the boot with all that scaffolding in the way now mate. ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 27th Dec 2010 at 04:33
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chris with a pug
Seasoned Pro Location: Southampton Registered: 16 Feb 2003 Posts: 5,366 Status: Offline |
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daveyboy wrote: Just make sure you run a set of battery leads out to a connector under the car somewhere as you are ditching your door locks are'nt you. If it goes flat you will be locked out and you will never be able to climb through the boot with all that scaffolding in the way now mate. thats already sorted. i just need to borrow ur big arse crimpers |
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Posted 27th Dec 2010 at 04:34
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
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chris with a pug wrote: daveyboy wrote: Just make sure you run a set of battery leads out to a connector under the car somewhere as you are ditching your door locks are'nt you. If it goes flat you will be locked out and you will never be able to climb through the boot with all that scaffolding in the way now mate. thats already sorted. i just need to borrow ur big arse crimpers Do you want to re-phrase that? lol ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 27th Dec 2010 at 04:35
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chris with a pug
Seasoned Pro Location: Southampton Registered: 16 Feb 2003 Posts: 5,366 Status: Offline |
Post #16
no i my rather drunk state that makes perfect sense!! |
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Posted 27th Dec 2010 at 04:36
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
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To set the record straight everybody. I have a big set of crimpers for heavy duty cable, not for crimping big arses, I think that would make a bit of a mess of the tool...________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 27th Dec 2010 at 04:41
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rallyeash
Seasoned Pro  Location: Devizes Registered: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,424 Status: Offline |
Post #18
bloody southampton fairys ________________________________________ 230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R |
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Posted 27th Dec 2010 at 04:54
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
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rallyeash wrote: bloody southampton fairys Local Yokel at least we manage to do it with a mamber of the same species!  ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 27th Dec 2010 at 04:58
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cosmic spanner
Moral objector  Location: North London Registered: 11 Oct 2004 Posts: 10,399 Status: Offline |
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FWIW I have a Powervamp 30 on mine and it's doing fine.I think they're much of a muchness to be honest; these types of batteries are great at providing lots of starting current but less good at coping with small, long term current drains. What swung it for me was that the Varley website talked about avoiding the battery become fully discharged (by keeping it connected while car is parked) as it shortens the lifespan of the unit, whereas Powervamp doesn't have any memory effect and can be recharged fine from any state of charge. Also the Powervamp 30 is used in the Harrier jump jet to start the engines and being a child, I thought that was cool  ________________________________________ Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch....Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. Project é - my 306 project thread. |
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Posted 29th Dec 2010 at 19:44
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farmer
Seasoned Pro  Location: Southend On Sea Registered: 20 Aug 2005 Posts: 2,245 Status: Offline |
Post #21
Another vote for Powervamp here!I have a PV25 on my lbsc car and it does the job fine. A bit sluggish to start, but I think thats the starter motor tbh. And I know Ash has a Powervamp too, but I dont know what size. His is either the 20 or the 25. As Mike says above, im sure they are all pretty much the same battery with a different sticker on them. ________________________________________ Long live the Sigma 6 Team Phase 1 supercharged XBL ID: farmer uk1 |
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Posted 29th Dec 2010 at 22:59
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miles
Seasoned Pro Location: Ringwood Registered: 28 Dec 2002 Posts: 3,433 Status: Offline |
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Batteries are all very much different in the quality of the meterials used, Having delt with vast amounts of the things Yuasa always came up best, But I don;t think they do a dry cell car battery only wet cell ones________________________________________ 306 Rallye Sptint/Race Car, 205 CTI 1.9 8v to name a fewRoad, Track and Race/Rally car preparation to your personal requirements, Full Workshop & Diagnostic Facilities New and Second parts, from Plugs to Turbo's We now also carry out Routine Servicing www.pugracing.com & FB Page, https://www.facebook.com/PugRacing Ebay; http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Pug-Racing-Shop 2012/2013/2014/2019 Class Winners at Gurston Down Speed Hillclimb & Joint overall, Class record too along the way, |
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Posted 30th Dec 2010 at 00:24
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