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 hovis16
Seasoned Pro  Location: Reading/parts for sale Registered: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 4,306 Status: Offline |
Post #1
im seem to have a leak but it not from the driveshafts because i replaced both seal about a month ago. it seems to be coming from where the gearbox meets the engine "sump area" any ideas??? will take a pic in the morning i think________________________________________ Ph2 Black GTI 6!EX black 6 owner But now a Black caged rallye owner Hunting for Go faster bits! SEARCH click here |
 Posted 29th Nov 2010 at 02:47
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rallyeash
Seasoned Pro  Location: Devizes Registered: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,424 Status: Offline |
Post #2
either leaking out the sump on that corner, or its the crank oil seal, hopefully its just the sump leaking otherwise to do the crank seal its a gearbox, clutch, flywheel off job  ________________________________________ 230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R |
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Posted 29th Nov 2010 at 02:56
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hovis16
Seasoned Pro Location: Reading/parts for sale Registered: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 4,306 Status: Offline |
Post #3
rallyeash wrote: either leaking out the sump on that corner, or its the crank oil seal, hopefully its just the sump leaking otherwise to do the crank seal its a gearbox, clutch, flywheel off job  nooooooooooooooooooo way oh bo***cks will have to jack it up and see then. its not a major leak just a dibble ever couple hours/days________________________________________ Ph2 Black GTI 6!EX black 6 owner But now a Black caged rallye owner Hunting for Go faster bits! SEARCH click here |
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Posted 29th Nov 2010 at 02:59
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rallyeash
Seasoned Pro Location: Devizes Registered: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,424 Status: Offline |
Post #4
on the plus side if its a crank seal, be rude not to fit a billet flywheel....________________________________________ 230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R |
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Posted 29th Nov 2010 at 03:05
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hovis16
Seasoned Pro Location: Reading/parts for sale Registered: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 4,306 Status: Offline |
Post #5
only fitted this month ago bah. im guessing the crank seal sits behind the flywheel??? i noticed a little leak when we took it of and was told this is normal.  will it cause any damage if it is left? the car always get regular service and oil checks so will never be super low on oil ________________________________________ Ph2 Black GTI 6!EX black 6 owner But now a Black caged rallye owner Hunting for Go faster bits! SEARCH click here |
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Posted 29th Nov 2010 at 16:09
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rallyeash
Seasoned Pro Location: Devizes Registered: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,424 Status: Offline |
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yeah the seal goes around the outside of the crank where the flywheel bolts on.na shouldnt leak atall mate, although there would be a number of cars outthere with a weaping seal. so replaced this seal a month ago? i would expect you damaged it when fitting, you probably wouldnt notice it by eye though. it won't cause any damage, just anoying everytime the car is moved theres a patch of oil. ________________________________________ 230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R |
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Posted 29th Nov 2010 at 18:52
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hovis16
Seasoned Pro Location: Reading/parts for sale Registered: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 4,306 Status: Offline |
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rallyeash wrote: yeah the seal goes around the outside of the crank where the flywheel bolts on. na shouldnt leak atall mate, although there would be a number of cars outthere with a weaping seal. so replaced this seal a month ago? i would expect you damaged it when fitting, you probably wouldnt notice it by eye though. it won't cause any damage, just anoying everytime the car is moved theres a patch of oil. my bad i changed the driveshaft seals not the crank seal. have to check my copper washer also.......didnt replace it last time  ________________________________________ Ph2 Black GTI 6!EX black 6 owner But now a Black caged rallye owner Hunting for Go faster bits! SEARCH click here |
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Posted 29th Nov 2010 at 21:25
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darkgti6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Bracknell Registered: 07 Jun 2008 Posts: 1,361 Status: Offline |
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hovis16 wrote: rallyeash wrote: yeah the seal goes around the outside of the crank where the flywheel bolts on. na shouldnt leak atall mate, although there would be a number of cars outthere with a weaping seal. so replaced this seal a month ago? i would expect you damaged it when fitting, you probably wouldnt notice it by eye though. it won't cause any damage, just anoying everytime the car is moved theres a patch of oil. my bad i changed the driveshaft seals not the crank seal. have to check my copper washer also.......didnt replace it last time This isn't the crank oil seal. It's the oil seals on the piece of metal under the big end bearing. Not only is it gearbox off its sump off to. When I did my clutch I did the crank oil seal to try and fix this without success and without understanding the true cause. Mine is still weeping away but just put up with it. If you look at rich_w high boost engine build thread or Andy+Katie project thread you can see pictures and text about these oil seals, they always go on these engines. They cost pence to buy from Pug but are a ball ache to sort out. ________________________________________ Team Peugeot Sport 308 Gti�Black T'99 Gti - may she rest in peace - written off in a shunt on the A329m |
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Posted 8th Dec 2010 at 23:25
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rallyeash
Seasoned Pro Location: Devizes Registered: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,424 Status: Offline |
Post #9
you mean the long seals on the crank seal housing yes? i'd change them at the same time as the crank seal too.________________________________________ 230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R |
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Posted 8th Dec 2010 at 23:29
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darkgti6
Seasoned Pro Location: Bracknell Registered: 07 Jun 2008 Posts: 1,361 Status: Offline |
Post #10
rallyeash wrote: you mean the long seals on the crank seal housing yes? i'd change them at the same time as the crank seal too. Yeah those are the ones, I haven't seen many xu10j4rs where they ain't leaking. In the rich_w high boost engine build thread he replaces the long seals and even puts a fillet of autojoint on the inside of the crank seal housing which makes sense to me. Maybe one day I will sort it. ________________________________________ Team Peugeot Sport 308 Gti�Black T'99 Gti - may she rest in peace - written off in a shunt on the A329m |
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Posted 8th Dec 2010 at 23:33
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rallyeash
Seasoned Pro Location: Devizes Registered: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,424 Status: Offline |
Post #11
 , on the last bottom end i build used some hylomar gasket stuff, its a shit job to take it all off againor do what practical performance car did on there 27L rover, make a drip tray for the oil  ________________________________________ 230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R |
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Posted 10th Dec 2010 at 01:48
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paul_13
Senior User  Location: Reading Registered: 10 Dec 2008 Posts: 693 Status: Offline |
Post #12
Only reason I said it was 'normal' mate cos all the 6 engines I have worked on, including Will's leaked slightly out of one of the flywheel bolt holes. Mine's done it (on 3 different engines), Ryan's, Will's, yours. Happy to help fix it mate. ________________________________________ 205 GTI6- Rebuilt engine, lightened flywheel, lightened pulley, 307 hdi brakes, Koni struts on gravel spec springs, 22mm TB's, 24mm ARB, Roll cage, Citreon ZX rear dampers, SL434's, Xsara box, Quickrack, Pipercross enclosed induction kit. Private work, not a prob |
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Posted 10th Dec 2010 at 16:15
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ryangti6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Pontypool Registered: 01 Sep 2006 Posts: 1,839 Status: Offline |
Post #13
Just to add that it could also be your input shaft seal on the gearbox. I cant remeber the last time I saw a nice dry bell housing on anything with a BE or MA box and this seal is usually the problem.In answer to your question on will it do any harm, if it is your input shaft seal it will end up contaminating/f*cking your clutch, Tbh I would imagine it can do the same if it is the crank seal too. ________________________________________ Ryan |
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Posted 14th Dec 2010 at 00:46
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rallyeash
Seasoned Pro Location: Devizes Registered: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,424 Status: Offline |
Post #14
ryangti6 wrote: I cant remeber the last time I saw a nice dry bell ________________________________________ 230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R |
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Posted 14th Dec 2010 at 00:51
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