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 tarret
Regular  Location: Maidstone Registered: 27 Sep 2009 Posts: 323 Status: Offline |
Post #1
im going to be running gti 6 head on my s16 block but not sure what headgasket to use, as the gti6 has MLS as std but the s16 doesnt, been told that the s16 one will be fine, but not to sure =/as i keep thinking why does the gti6 have MLS as std and the s16 dont? |
 Posted 12th Oct 2010 at 23:32
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cjm_harris
Seasoned Pro  Location: Parts for Sale section Registered: 04 Dec 2007 Posts: 7,442 Status: Offline |
Post #2
I have an MLS (if that stands for multi layered  ) lying about if you would like to buy it?Was fitted to my engine for about 30 miles. ________________________________________ Chris1999 China Gti6 Supercharged  [Fun car] >>Project Thread<<2000 Bianca 306 Diesel [Work runabout] |
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Posted 12th Oct 2010 at 23:41
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tarret
Regular Location: Maidstone Registered: 27 Sep 2009 Posts: 323 Status: Offline |
Post #3
MLS ( multi layered steel ) yeah lol,how much you want for it? also would it be ok to re-use? |
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Posted 12th Oct 2010 at 23:45
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #4
standard pug o.e gasket is MLS and only £40, not sure why the S16 didn't use one, maybe because its 5 years older in design.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 12th Oct 2010 at 23:58
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midlife
Seasoned Pro  Location: Colne, Lancashire Registered: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 7,544 Status: Offline |
Post #5
Richw does a fine range of uprated gaskets for peace of mind I really wouldn't reuse a head gasket imho!!  ________________________________________ Get used to seeing the yellow one !!! Team 330™ Team "no front end or engine" Team "LIMITED EDITION" I live for the 306 sticker  Team 0-60 in 6.44 & standing qtr in 14.808 @ 94.55mph all with std engine 203bhp Corolla T-Sport daily driver stealthier than Kwai Chang Caine |
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Posted 13th Oct 2010 at 00:04
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tarret
Regular Location: Maidstone Registered: 27 Sep 2009 Posts: 323 Status: Offline |
Post #6
yeah which i why i am confused on what gasket to use, s16 or gti6 =/ive been quoted 70+vat for gti6 mls gasket =/ |
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Posted 13th Oct 2010 at 00:07
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
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go to Peugeot for one0209 Z2 CYL HEAD GASKET 34.98 GBP + vat (£41 odd) headbolts from GSF at £15, job jobbered ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 13th Oct 2010 at 00:12
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rich_w
Seasoned Pro  Location: Havant, Hampshire Registered: 29 Jul 2004 Posts: 5,412 Status: Offline |
Post #8
cjm_harris wrote: I have an MLS (if that stands for multi layered ) lying about if you would like to buy it?Was fitted to my engine for about 30 miles. Is that a joke? Selling a used head-gasket?  ________________________________________ Contact Details:rich@lynxpowerengineering.co.uk 07732 822546 |
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Posted 13th Oct 2010 at 00:12
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rich_w
Seasoned Pro Location: Havant, Hampshire Registered: 29 Jul 2004 Posts: 5,412 Status: Offline |
Post #9
As others have send, the OEM gasket on the J4RS engine is MLS and about £40.They are not bad, certainly fine for a standard, mildly tuned engine. I can supply our own uprated MLS head gaskets - £85 for the gasket, or £125 with head bolts. They are substantially better than the Peugeot items - better materials, better coatings, individual fire rings / combustion chamber seals etc, and proven to be reliable on engines over 450 BHP.  ________________________________________ Contact Details:rich@lynxpowerengineering.co.uk 07732 822546 |
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Posted 13th Oct 2010 at 00:15
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tarret
Regular Location: Maidstone Registered: 27 Sep 2009 Posts: 323 Status: Offline |
Post #10
ok i shall go peugoet for the j4rs gasket just wierd why APS want 70+ for the mls one =/ |
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Posted 13th Oct 2010 at 00:21
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #11
might be the same as Rich's gasket but is + Vat, so ends up about £85 ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 13th Oct 2010 at 00:25
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tarret
Regular Location: Maidstone Registered: 27 Sep 2009 Posts: 323 Status: Offline |
Post #12
ok cheers |
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Posted 13th Oct 2010 at 00:49
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midlife
Seasoned Pro Location: Colne, Lancashire Registered: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 7,544 Status: Offline |
Post #13
rich_w wrote: cjm_harris wrote: I have an MLS (if that stands for multi layered ) lying about if you would like to buy it?Was fitted to my engine for about 30 miles. Is that a joke? Selling a used head-gasket?  ________________________________________ Get used to seeing the yellow one !!!Team 330™ Team "no front end or engine" Team "LIMITED EDITION" I live for the 306 sticker Team 0-60 in 6.44 & standing qtr in 14.808 @ 94.55mph all with std engine 203bhp Corolla T-Sport daily driver stealthier than Kwai Chang Caine |
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Posted 13th Oct 2010 at 01:31
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jeffers
Forum Admin Location: Leeds Registered: 14 Dec 2003 Posts: 3,702 Status: Offline |
Post #14
I wouldn't even consider thinkin about fitting a used head gasket.... thats like commiting suicide!  ________________________________________ Team Running Engine again!Team Negative Camber! My Budget track engine build thread! Now appearing at a Trackday near you!!  |
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Posted 13th Oct 2010 at 12:38
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daver6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Durham Registered: 08 Aug 2010 Posts: 2,379 Status: Offline |
Post #15
I've been waiting three weeks for Peugeot to get me a gasket. Been told the 28th now  ________________________________________ Red Rallye - Rolling "restoration"Wishbone Polybushes available |
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Posted 13th Oct 2010 at 12:51
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ablister
Senior User  Location: fife Registered: 30 Oct 2005 Posts: 522 Status: Offline |
Post #16
Corteco make Peugeot headgasketsso maybe ask for one from motor factors. I just picked one up on eBay for £12 delivered ________________________________________ 306 rallye, Richard Longman enginerc10gt |
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Posted 13th Oct 2010 at 18:52
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chas
Seasoned Pro  Location: Warwickshire Registered: 31 Oct 2007 Posts: 1,468 Status: Offline |
Post #17
I'd use OE on this occasion. Payen are a reputable manufacture in many circles as I believe are Cometic, although OE is a tried and tested method I guess.That or RichW's gaskets .________________________________________ Ex Owner of 2000 Phase 3 306 GTi 6 China Blue - You shall be missed1974 Triumph Stag 1989 Peugeot 205 GTi 1.6 2003 Alfa Romeo 147 JTD Lusso 2005 Mondeo Ghia X 3.0 Estate LPG |
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Posted 14th Oct 2010 at 03:03
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tarret
Regular Location: Maidstone Registered: 27 Sep 2009 Posts: 323 Status: Offline |
Post #18
so would it be better for me to run s16 or 6 gasket? |
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Posted 14th Oct 2010 at 03:44
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clen666
Seasoned Pro  Location: Co. Durham Registered: 12 Feb 2009 Posts: 2,401 Status: Offline |
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midlife wrote: Wayne you now owe me a new monitor  ________________________________________ Team 'unintentional rat look' |
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Posted 14th Oct 2010 at 20:25
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cjm_harris
Seasoned Pro Location: Parts for Sale section Registered: 04 Dec 2007 Posts: 7,442 Status: Offline |
Post #20
 Oops! As I have very limited knowledge with engines, can you tell me why it cant be reused? For other paper gaskets I could understand. But an uprated gasket with f*ck all use, thought it would be ok? Shows how much I know though  ________________________________________ Chris1999 China Gti6 Supercharged [Fun car] >>Project Thread<<2000 Bianca 306 Diesel [Work runabout] |
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Posted 15th Oct 2010 at 18:58
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rich_w
Seasoned Pro Location: Havant, Hampshire Registered: 29 Jul 2004 Posts: 5,412 Status: Offline |
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cjm_harris wrote: Oops! As I have very limited knowledge with engines, can you tell me why it cant be reused? For other paper gaskets I could understand. But an uprated gasket with f*ck all use, thought it would be ok? Shows how much I know though You should never re-use any HG  When torqued down, the HG will form to the exact profile required to seal between the head / block. I'm talking on a tiny scale here - i.e. the elastomer coating filling the microscopic troughs in the block / head. Re-using a gasket will never create a proper seal. Using a new gasket is the only way to guarantee a good seal. ________________________________________ Contact Details:rich@lynxpowerengineering.co.uk 07732 822546 |
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Posted 16th Oct 2010 at 03:27
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chris with a pug
Seasoned Pro  Location: Southampton Registered: 16 Feb 2003 Posts: 5,366 Status: Offline |
Post #22
PM miles I am sure he gets his from GSF they are the same gasket just cheaper!! |
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Posted 16th Oct 2010 at 14:58
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cjm_harris
Seasoned Pro Location: Parts for Sale section Registered: 04 Dec 2007 Posts: 7,442 Status: Offline |
Post #23
Cheers Rich ________________________________________ Chris1999 China Gti6 Supercharged [Fun car] >>Project Thread<<2000 Bianca 306 Diesel [Work runabout] |
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Posted 16th Oct 2010 at 18:58
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