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 monkgti
Regular  Location: New Ross Registered: 31 Jul 2009 Posts: 343 Status: Offline |
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well folks, what would be the best cams to get for the 6 without having to do any work on the pistons so the'll have clearance and what would be the rough expected gains along with an induction kit and decat which i already have? also would it have to be remapped with milder cams as nowhere in this sh*thole of a country will remap the standard ecu  ________________________________________ IF YOU CAN READ THIS IM STILL IN 5TH!!! |
 Posted 4th Oct 2010 at 15:17
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braymond
Seasoned Pro  Location: Brighton Registered: 20 Aug 2008 Posts: 1,163 Status: Offline |
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I'm running Kent PT81's. Opinions seem divided about the inherent risks of these without pocketed pistons, especially your head has been skimmed etc,(do a search - loads of info on this) but i've had them in for about a year without problems.As for remapping, Wayne Schofield of Chipwizards can remap the standard ECU (he did mine). I have standard induction, and made 184bhp ________________________________________ Rallye-RNurburgring article |
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Posted 4th Oct 2010 at 15:25
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monkgti
Regular Location: New Ross Registered: 31 Jul 2009 Posts: 343 Status: Offline |
Post #3
was your head ever skimmed do you know? 184 is good with cams alone  is there much improvment power wise when your driving it? ________________________________________ IF YOU CAN READ THIS IM STILL IN 5TH!!! |
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Posted 4th Oct 2010 at 15:50
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braymond
Seasoned Pro Location: Brighton Registered: 20 Aug 2008 Posts: 1,163 Status: Offline |
Post #4
yes, my head has been skimmed, but my valve seats were recut too so i think i regained a little clearance with that.Yes the power is good. it comes on pretty strong around 4k as it always did, but then the cams really come to life at 5k+ (vtec-esq almost) I dont suppose its anything like as hard hitting as say your supercharged boys, but it updates the car nicely. ________________________________________ Rallye-RNurburgring article |
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Posted 4th Oct 2010 at 17:00
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james_gti6
Senior User  Location: Goodwick Registered: 18 Jan 2010 Posts: 528 Status: Offline |
Post #5
I will be putting my newman ph2 cams in this week, so will let you know, i will also be booking a remap with chip wizards as he seems to have had the most experience. i think these cams are very similar to pt81's ________________________________________ if i dont see you in the mattress il see you in the spring |
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Posted 4th Oct 2010 at 18:22
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braymond
Seasoned Pro Location: Brighton Registered: 20 Aug 2008 Posts: 1,163 Status: Offline |
Post #6
james_gti6 wrote: I will be putting my newman ph2 cams in this week, so will let you know, i will also be booking a remap with chip wizards as he seems to have had the most experience. i think these cams are very similar to pt81's I believe you're right. both 264° duration i think. ________________________________________ Rallye-RNurburgring article |
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Posted 4th Oct 2010 at 18:25
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simonjames
Seasoned Pro  Location: Whitland S.Wales Registered: 23 Nov 2004 Posts: 6,219 Status: Offline |
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when i was looking to go down the cams and boddies route i was adviced to go for catcams ________________________________________ All South Wales Members Click HereTeam Supercharged Black RALLYE ™ (Click Here for Build Project) MY EBAY ITEMS 07943066306 |
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Posted 4th Oct 2010 at 18:26
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monkgti
Regular Location: New Ross Registered: 31 Jul 2009 Posts: 343 Status: Offline |
Post #8
yeah do james let me know  my head had been skimmed too just a light skim when i was getting the valves done but still would be a bit warey, is there any way of checking the clearence without taking off the head, mabey by taking off the inlet mani as i remember i could see the valves in through this when it was off  ________________________________________ IF YOU CAN READ THIS IM STILL IN 5TH!!! |
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Posted 4th Oct 2010 at 18:32
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309btcc
**DODGY SELLER**  Location: england Registered: 07 Jul 2009 Posts: 530 Status: Offline |
Post #9
piper 285h cams fit if timed perfectly and head hasnt been skimed. |
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Posted 4th Oct 2010 at 19:07
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maddriver9
Regular  Location: nr leek Registered: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 341 Status: Offline |
Post #10
what sort of gain should be expected from pt81s or simalar cams. im running 178bhp and my engine is standard.it does not seem worth nearly a grand for only 6bhp. ________________________________________ 178bhp 205gti6¼ mile in 14.2 |
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Posted 5th Oct 2010 at 00:17
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309btcc
**DODGY SELLER** Location: england Registered: 07 Jul 2009 Posts: 530 Status: Offline |
Post #11
if you fit 285s good exhaust and remap you will see very close too 200bhp |
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Posted 5th Oct 2010 at 00:22
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adam b
Seasoned Pro  Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Post #12
How much torque are you lot with cams getting then? BHp doesn't really mean a great deal if the torque isn't increasing significantly as well imo.________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 5th Oct 2010 at 00:26
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309btcc
**DODGY SELLER** Location: england Registered: 07 Jul 2009 Posts: 530 Status: Offline |
Post #13
well mine made 182ftlbs torque so not atal bad i thought |
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Posted 5th Oct 2010 at 00:29
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rallyeash
Seasoned Pro  Location: Devizes Registered: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,424 Status: Offline |
Post #14
182! they must be some in accurate rollers...________________________________________ 230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R |
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Posted 5th Oct 2010 at 03:45
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monkgti
Regular Location: New Ross Registered: 31 Jul 2009 Posts: 343 Status: Offline |
Post #15
is there any cams that can actually be used if the head has been skimmed without piston work?________________________________________ IF YOU CAN READ THIS IM STILL IN 5TH!!! |
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Posted 5th Oct 2010 at 05:18
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shakey
Regular Location: Buckley Registered: 23 Sep 2008 Posts: 492 Status: Offline |
Post #16
I'm after a set of Newman PH2's, does anyone know where / who does the best price (Pug1off ask just over £400) |
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Posted 5th Oct 2010 at 14:46
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braymond
Seasoned Pro Location: Brighton Registered: 20 Aug 2008 Posts: 1,163 Status: Offline |
Post #17
monkgti wrote: is there any cams that can actually be used if the head has been skimmed without piston work? I'm sure the kent PT80 or Newman phase1 would meet that criteria, but you'd have to ask yourself if its worth it for such small gains. I guess it depends what your goal is - to make the car faster or quicker? That may sound like a stupid thing to say, but bare in mind you can make a car much quicker on road or track by changing suspension/reducing weight/buying decent tyres....without it generating more power ________________________________________ Rallye-RNurburgring article |
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Posted 5th Oct 2010 at 14:55
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james_gti6
Senior User Location: Goodwick Registered: 18 Jan 2010 Posts: 528 Status: Offline |
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shakey wrote: I'm after a set of Newman PH2's, does anyone know where / who does the best price (Pug1off ask just over £400) I offered 380 delivered and they went for it, it saves them the ebay fee's aswell, ________________________________________ if i dont see you in the mattress il see you in the spring |
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Posted 5th Oct 2010 at 15:23
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309btcc
**DODGY SELLER** Location: england Registered: 07 Jul 2009 Posts: 530 Status: Offline |
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rallyeash wrote: thats what i thought but the car did go like stink mate 182! they must be some in accurate rollers...  |
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Posted 5th Oct 2010 at 15:34
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cwspellowe
Seasoned Pro  Location: Calderbank Registered: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 6,496 Status: Offline |
Post #20
PeterT stage I inlet cam should fit with no drama, he regrinds the standard cam to give longer duration but lift stays the same, so as long as the timing isn't way off it should cause no drama.As for mapping i'm going to be a sheep and use Wayne too, despite my earlier kicking and screaming  That's the route i'm going down. Emailing him as we speak and I have a spare inlet cam on order to ship over to him. I'll let you know prices when it's all arranged. ________________________________________ Bye bye Sundance Kid |
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Posted 5th Oct 2010 at 16:10
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monkgti
Regular Location: New Ross Registered: 31 Jul 2009 Posts: 343 Status: Offline |
Post #21
well at least with these id be safer anyway yes?how much roughly would kent pt80/newman ph 1/petertstage 1 cams cost and would there be a best one out of the 3 or all fairly even? and would you have an idea of the rough bhp/lb/ft gains with them? ________________________________________ IF YOU CAN READ THIS IM STILL IN 5TH!!! |
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Posted 5th Oct 2010 at 23:20
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monkgti
Regular Location: New Ross Registered: 31 Jul 2009 Posts: 343 Status: Offline |
Post #22
just found these, are these the newman ph 1's?cams ________________________________________ IF YOU CAN READ THIS IM STILL IN 5TH!!! |
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Posted 5th Oct 2010 at 23:28
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #23
it says so in the advert, so yeah  ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 5th Oct 2010 at 23:30
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maz-306-xs
Senior User  Location: Folkestone Registered: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 506 Status: Offline |
Post #24
ive been considering a piper fast road regrind, send them your cams (or a spare set) and for £250 they will grind them to fast road spec.http://www.pipercams.co.uk/pipercams/www/product.php?pid=GTI6BP270H And he did say that if 5 or more people wanted some they would talk about a **GROUP BUY** discount. ________________________________________ banned for drifting. back in the s**tbox scene. |
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Posted 5th Oct 2010 at 23:40
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cwspellowe
Seasoned Pro Location: Calderbank Registered: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 6,496 Status: Offline |
Post #25
monkgti wrote: well at least with these id be safer anyway yes? how much roughly would kent pt80/newman ph 1/petertstage 1 cams cost and would there be a best one out of the 3 or all fairly even? and would you have an idea of the rough bhp/lb/ft gains with them? PeterT's is probably the cheapest of the lot, a regrind is about $150AUS. Add on £70 for shipping (£35 each way) and about £20 for a spare cam and you can get it back on your doorstep for about £170. Don't quote me on this but with the mods i have i'm hoping for 10-15bhp after a remap, hopefully get me up near the 190bhp mark. ________________________________________ Bye bye Sundance Kid |
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Posted 5th Oct 2010 at 23:52
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