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 JWP EFi
Turbo Legend!  Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #1
Alright chaps, is it worth getting a remap on the factory (apart from k&n and cat back magnex) 6 engine? I have heard that they don't give a noticable gain in bhp / torque.i don't plan to uprate to cams etc for the time being. Whats your views on this |
 Posted 3rd Oct 2010 at 02:23
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ian7675
Techno Viking  Location: Gloucestershire Registered: 12 Oct 2007 Posts: 6,068 Status: Offline |
Post #2
Don't bother, I doubt you would ever notice any difference. re-maps don't really do anything on these engines and a few have had it done and regretted it. And don't mention the dreaded word "Superchips".________________________________________ Less than 24 hours to go! |
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Posted 3rd Oct 2010 at 02:29
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mr swampy s16
**BAD SELLER**  Location: out and about Registered: 22 Oct 2003 Posts: 10,550 Status: Offline |
Post #3
Keep your cash in your pocket.If you go for cams then depending on the spec of them you will need a remap. Plenty of info on the forum with regard to maps. |
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Posted 3rd Oct 2010 at 02:30
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #4
ok, cheers guys. That backs up what i have been told elsewhere.What is the best way to 180 bhp, bear in mind i don't want to lose the low rpm torque |
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Posted 3rd Oct 2010 at 02:32
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ian7675
Techno Viking Location: Gloucestershire Registered: 12 Oct 2007 Posts: 6,068 Status: Offline |
Post #5
How much are you willing to spend?________________________________________ Less than 24 hours to go! |
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Posted 3rd Oct 2010 at 02:41
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #6
NO more than 500.another question, my cam pullies are the adjustable ones, is it true these can be 'optimised' for more grunt. i read on here a while back a chap had a 6 with magnex/k&n then retimed cams and ended up with 184 bhp |
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Posted 3rd Oct 2010 at 02:48
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rallyeash
Seasoned Pro  Location: Devizes Registered: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,424 Status: Offline |
Post #7
the cams can be advanced alittle, it normally give upto 10ft lb of torque but the peak power is brought down the rev range a touch. seems a worthwhile mod although i have never done it.spend your money on suspension, decent discs and pads and a good set of tyres.. ________________________________________ 230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R |
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Posted 3rd Oct 2010 at 02:57
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #8
as much as 10lb ft? is the extra torque spread out or is it just past 5k rpm? |
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Posted 3rd Oct 2010 at 03:01
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rallyeash
Seasoned Pro Location: Devizes Registered: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,424 Status: Offline |
Post #9
i think there was some back to back dyno comparisons on here somwhere. could take some finding though.________________________________________ 230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R |
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Posted 3rd Oct 2010 at 03:04
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #10
i have been looking, but as you say,hard to find |
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Posted 3rd Oct 2010 at 03:05
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rallyeash
Seasoned Pro Location: Devizes Registered: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,424 Status: Offline |
Post #11
could be of helpquote: quote: Not at all - max power was at 6300rpm, max torque a bit lower down. It lost its cam 'kick' at 4k, just pulled straight through. I would change at 7k, but it didn't feel like it was losing power at that point. I didn't manage to get it RR'd before as I bought it 67k without a cambelt change so it was a priority. The advancing was done at that point. Had it on a few rollers which all saw the same torque figure of 154lbft and varying power figures from 170 to 179. It wasn't a slow engine (well until its last trip out lol). ________________________________________ 230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R |
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Posted 3rd Oct 2010 at 03:08
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #12
you have better eyes than me!!So do you think along with the magnex/k&n plus advancing cam timing i will net 180 'ish' horses? i'm appreciating the feedback here |
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Posted 3rd Oct 2010 at 03:11
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gtisid
Seasoned Pro  Location: chelmsford Registered: 22 Mar 2003 Posts: 4,992 Status: Offline |
Post #13
i had a srtandard gti6 in its early days of ownership and my mate had a superchipped one. we both fitted stainless exhausts and filters at the same time and i can honestly say apart from fuel consumption it made absolutely no difference whatsover (The chip that is). The rollers gave a different story though and his was returning about 180 compared to mine was around 172 if i remember correctly.fuel consu,ption was better on the chipped one though. when you look how easy it is to get bhp on turbod cars it really is not worth the time and money. save you r money fit a stainless exhaust/filter at least it will sound like it is going faster !!. ________________________________________ puglessPhase 1 GTI 6 1996-1997 Subaru Impreza GB270 2007-2008 rare spiderman comics same day international courier |
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Posted 3rd Oct 2010 at 03:15
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #14
so, how many degrees of advance are we talking? and on what cam? |
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Posted 3rd Oct 2010 at 03:15
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #15
already have exhaust / filter |
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Posted 3rd Oct 2010 at 03:17
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rallyeash
Seasoned Pro Location: Devizes Registered: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,424 Status: Offline |
Post #16
the rest of the thread i took the quote fromhttp://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=117193&page=1 ________________________________________ 230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R |
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Posted 3rd Oct 2010 at 03:20
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #17
cheers rallyeash |
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Posted 3rd Oct 2010 at 03:22
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rallyeash
Seasoned Pro Location: Devizes Registered: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,424 Status: Offline |
Post #18
would think 175 is achievable with a heathly engine a good filter, cam advance decat + exhaust________________________________________ 230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R |
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Posted 3rd Oct 2010 at 03:27
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #19
175 bhp. and a driveable torquey 16v. All sounds very promising, i wonder what the dyno will say!! |
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Posted 3rd Oct 2010 at 03:32
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ian7675
Techno Viking Location: Gloucestershire Registered: 12 Oct 2007 Posts: 6,068 Status: Offline |
Post #20
Is it really worth spending money to get such little gains? Fair play to you if you actually notice any difference.________________________________________ Less than 24 hours to go! |
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Posted 3rd Oct 2010 at 23:28
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mabgti
NV motors  Location: Bham tunnel @7400rpm Registered: 28 Aug 2003 Posts: 9,127 Status: Offline |
Post #21
maybe not... but its a good way to tie in all your breathing mods Changing the airfilter inlet length and a decat can have an effect on fuelling, hence why most people on here seem to be replacing lambdas every 6 months ________________________________________ Team Supercharged Gti-6NV Motorsport Automotive Performance Tuning 0121 448 7515 ECU Remapping/ DPF removal VAG/BMW Diag and Option Coding Peugeot Planet ECU coding/transponder programming etc www.nvmotorsport.com Facebook Page Project S6 |
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Posted 4th Oct 2010 at 07:10
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