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Author Subject: HEAVY CLUTCH !!!
levon1987

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Post #1
OK i need a yes or no answer...i have my 306 hdi for 8months about 4months ago my clutch became harder and harder the clutch does not slip changed clutch cable did not help. Clutch is heavy when car is cold and when i drive. 8 months ago the clutch was stiff not rock hard like now. i now 306 diesels have stiff clutches but not rock hard... do i need a new clutch kit??? is it the presseru plate???

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119k miles
1 clutch

need a yes or no answer NEED HELP my foot is killing me
Posted 9th Sep 2010 at 15:42
gilesy

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Post #2
Pull up your big girl knickers and get on with it!!

And FOYC to 306.net
Posted 9th Sep 2010 at 15:57
levon1987

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Post #3
thats not really helping
Posted 9th Sep 2010 at 16:55
gilesy

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Post #4
I went onto a carpenters forum to ask about my alternator output...they weren't really much help...

Maybe the name of the forum may be a big clue as to why...?
Posted 9th Sep 2010 at 19:35
levon1987

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Post #5
you bored are you???
Posted 9th Sep 2010 at 19:43
0770chris23

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Post #6
all the 306s iv drove have had hard clutches and have never had to change 1 so i would say no , you soon get used to the stiff pedal Smile

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Posted 9th Sep 2010 at 20:49
gilesy

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Post #7
levon1987 wrote:
you bored are you???


Absolutely bored to tears. Make your next Gti6 or Rallye question a bit more interesting.

Thumbs up
Posted 9th Sep 2010 at 21:25
anth_gti6

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Post #8
although this is a GTi6 and rallye club the whole 306 range suffers from this problem. What you have there is a classic case of dried up clutch cable, as peugeot decided it would be a good idea to route it by the exhaust manifold. Replace the cable and it will be 10times better, you will find though that this is just the start and you will need a new clutch to make it fully the way it should be.

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Posted 9th Sep 2010 at 21:31
honestly3k

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Post #9
Replacing the cable will only be a short term solution and it will surely go back to being rock solid again. A new clutch and cable will sort it.

On my 1.8 its extremely heavy but as its only a workhorse for me i refuse to throw a new clutch at it and its on 142k now. It never slips but i do think its slowly giving me RSI in my left knee. Its pretty horrible but ive put up with it this far and only really notice in slow moving traffic!

If you can afford to throw a new clutch at yours then that will solve it for you...

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Posted 9th Sep 2010 at 21:55
gilesy

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Post #10
For amusement, press the brake pedal with your left foot, and then try and recreate the effort with your right! It aint gonna happen!

I think the end of the cable should have been outside the bulkhead, and a mechanical link should have been used going through it to instead to pull the cable. I'm sure that can't be that hard to do thinking about it...

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Posted 9th Sep 2010 at 22:03
miles

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Post #11
It's not the clutch or cable which most people think it is,
You will find that the bush's on the clutch arm are worn or the shaft is rusting in them, Replace these and the arm and your clutch will be light
Means a box off job thou

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Posted 10th Sep 2010 at 00:44
jonnie205

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Post #12
exactly, i can never understand why people say its the clucth wearing and becoming old that makes the pedal go stiff. the only way a clucth will be stiff is if an uprated one is fitted with stronger springs giving more clamping force, cable and bushes will be the answer
Posted 10th Sep 2010 at 01:24
honestly3k

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Post #13
jonnie205 wrote:
exactly, i can never understand why people say its the clucth wearing and becoming old that makes the pedal go stiff. the only way a clucth will be stiff is if an uprated one is fitted with stronger springs giving more clamping force, cable and bushes will be the answer



You speaking from experience of before and after fitting new bushes etc? How much are we talking for a garage mechanic and parts to do this? Might be worth me getting my 1.8 done pronto, its beyond heavy! LOL

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Posted 10th Sep 2010 at 01:41
jcphat

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Post #14
If you can do it yourself there's a point in doing as Miles says. If your paying the labour you may as well fit a clutch too. By the time you have got to the point where you can do bushes you can do the clutch for only the cost of the kit. Would you install an old clutch....

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Posted 10th Sep 2010 at 01:49
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Post #15
This is terrible

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Posted 10th Sep 2010 at 01:50
honestly3k

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Post #16
hmm good point. Maybe i'll see how much a clutch kit is! Will cost a fair size in labour i would imagine aswell.

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Posted 10th Sep 2010 at 01:50
jonnie205

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Post #17
i can do it for you if you like? £280 all in with new clucth, bushes etc
Posted 10th Sep 2010 at 02:21
honestly3k

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Post #18
LOL

Thanks for the offer but the car isnt worth much more than that! Its not cost effective it would seem. I was just looking for a quick cheap fix for a heavy clutch but if there isnt one il stick with it!

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Posted 10th Sep 2010 at 03:01
chas

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Post #19
Asking for a more sensible reply, Miles I reckon is on the money Smile.

On my 306 Derv, when the clutch was changed at 130k the bushes were changed too. Completely different clutch pedal. I tried a cable initially but it didn't make much difference.

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Posted 10th Sep 2010 at 04:03
jamiek_uk2000

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Post #20
Didn't someone on here have a guide to insulating the clutch cable to stop it getting too hot and drying out? They wtapped it in lagging and put aluminium duct over that and that stopped it

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Posted 28th Sep 2010 at 00:43
chris167

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i think he is having us all on and has a triple plate exedy job fitted LOL

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Posted 28th Sep 2010 at 00:51
berger

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Post #22
tvrfan2007 on here is on his original clutch on something like 217k.

I've driven his car and you need a bionic leg to use it!

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Posted 28th Sep 2010 at 01:04
welshpug!

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Post #23
he needs £2 of nylon bush fitted, problem 90% of the time solved.

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Posted 28th Sep 2010 at 01:08
tvrfan007

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Post #24
p*ss off you nonce my clutch is aii! I'm well used to it and she's going strong at 216500 on the original clutch. Laugh

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Posted 28th Sep 2010 at 02:57
kyleey2k

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Post #25
Poorly lubriacted clutch arm. Clutch arm bushes could also be replaced as mentioned already.

That is a quick (few hours) fix and very cheap Smile

Good luck
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