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 simonjames
Seasoned Pro  Location: Whitland S.Wales Registered: 23 Nov 2004 Posts: 6,219 Status: Offline |
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Can any of the charger lads shed some light on how i fill the charger, i remember Ash saying something about presurising it but as he has a shit memory he couldnt remember fully ________________________________________ All South Wales Members Click HereTeam Supercharged Black RALLYE ™ (Click Here for Build Project) MY EBAY ITEMS 07943066306 |
 Posted 28th Jul 2010 at 15:38
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birk
Seasoned Pro  Location: Doncaster Registered: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 7,032 Status: Offline |
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I blew down one of the pipes untill i could see the oil coming out the other end of the charger oil line, take some doing though  ________________________________________ Dimma + Gt35 turbo = Solid rear beam mounts £130 07889376885 Dan |
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Posted 28th Jul 2010 at 15:45
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rallyestyle
Seasoned Pro  Location: London Registered: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 14,990 Status: Offline |
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birk wrote: I blew down one of the pipes untill i could see the oil coming out the other end of the charger oil line, take some doing though  Thats the way i did it too  I think the manual for the charger should be on Rotrex's site Simon, have a look at that as it describes how to do it, you just need to replace the 15psi pressure line with your mouth  ________________________________________ Just Drive It |
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Posted 28th Jul 2010 at 15:47
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cosmic spanner
Moral objector  Location: North London Registered: 11 Oct 2004 Posts: 10,399 Status: Offline |
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Yeah it's a bit of a shit procedure TBH... you should download the instructions off the Rotrex site. Their idea is once it's all hooked up, you fill the tank, loosen the banjo bolt to the charger IN hole. Then using your air compressor (you do have one of those, right? ) and a "rag" wrapped round it you hold the air hose up to the unscrewed dipstick hole (very classy for such an important procedure on such expensive piece of kit) and this will form a seal so you can pressurise the fluid and force it up towards the IN hole on the charger. When you see steady blue traction fluid coming out the banjo, nip it tight.That's the theory. But without an air compressor (and it being sunday, nowhere to hire one) I tried blowing, sucking, using a diesel priming pump, gravity, voodoo.. all sorts.. couldn't get it reliably primed.  You guys who reckon you did it with your mouth... scare me!  Where did you learn how to blow like that?!  In the end, I modified an eazi-bleed and an R888 to give me an "air hose", did the trick. WARNING: I don't know if you realise - I didn't at the time I was spraying the shit round like champagne on the winners podium  - but the Rotrex traction fluid is Very Expensive. Think "Unicorn Sperm" levels of expensive. So try to be careful and get the priming done right with not too much waste!BTW, once it's running, you can tell if it's priming properly by whether the cooler is getting warm (it's on the return) and if you slightly loosen the OUT banjo on the rotrex you should see fluid flowing out. HTH ________________________________________ Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch....Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. Project é - my 306 project thread. |
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Posted 28th Jul 2010 at 16:06
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judders
Newbie  Location: Chatham Registered: 02 Jul 2010 Posts: 3 Status: Offline |
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Posted 28th Jul 2010 at 16:08
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rallyestyle
Seasoned Pro Location: London Registered: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 14,990 Status: Offline |
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judders wrote: 10/10 for the newb ________________________________________ Just Drive It |
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Posted 28th Jul 2010 at 16:10
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judders
Newbie Location: Chatham Registered: 02 Jul 2010 Posts: 3 Status: Offline |
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rallyestyle wrote: I do try lol What do i win ?  |
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Posted 28th Jul 2010 at 16:12
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rallyestyle
Seasoned Pro Location: London Registered: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 14,990 Status: Offline |
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judders wrote: rallyestyle wrote: I do try lol What do i win ? Erm... a week of not being flamed  ________________________________________ Just Drive It |
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Posted 28th Jul 2010 at 16:18
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blaze wip
Senior User  Location: Hexham Registered: 07 Sep 2009 Posts: 926 Status: Offline |
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judders wrote: rallyestyle wrote: I do try lol What do i win ? A world renowned ratboy reacharound.  ________________________________________ mechanical_repairs wrote: i feel like giving her a good dry bumming session. |
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Posted 28th Jul 2010 at 16:36
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fletch
Track Head  Location: The nearest Shell garage Registered: 12 Jun 2004 Posts: 12,273 Status: Offline |
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rallyestyle wrote: Most helpful newb ever?  |
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Posted 28th Jul 2010 at 18:18
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andy306gti
Regular  Location: Ilkeston, Derbyshire. Registered: 12 Jun 2008 Posts: 173 Status: Offline |
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What I did was basically what rotrex suggest only I user an old bike innter tube cut in half with one end tied. The other end i jubileed to a socket and made a gasket out of a latex glove.I then connected my tyre inflator and used that by pushing the socket over the dipstick hole. Worked a treat. |
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Posted 28th Jul 2010 at 18:25
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russbez
Seasoned Pro  Location: Inverness-Shire Registered: 19 Dec 2005 Posts: 7,459 Status: Offline |
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cosmic spanner wrote: WARNING: I don't know if you realise - I didn't at the time I was spraying the shit round like champagne on the winners podium - but the Rotrex traction fluid is Very Expensive. Think "Unicorn Sperm" levels of expensive. So try to be careful and get the priming done right with not too much waste agree totally, pretty sure i still have spare from last time... its alllll mine expensive stuff ________________________________________ TEAM HIGH BOOST SUPERCHARGED RALLYEMy Rallye project thread |
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Posted 28th Jul 2010 at 18:27
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simonjames
Seasoned Pro Location: Whitland S.Wales Registered: 23 Nov 2004 Posts: 6,219 Status: Offline |
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Cheers all, i'll get around to making brackets for everything this weekend hopefully and get on with filling up ________________________________________ All South Wales Members Click HereTeam Supercharged Black RALLYE ™ (Click Here for Build Project) MY EBAY ITEMS 07943066306 |
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Posted 28th Jul 2010 at 19:10
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rallyestyle
Seasoned Pro Location: London Registered: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 14,990 Status: Offline |
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russbez wrote: cosmic spanner wrote: WARNING: I don't know if you realise - I didn't at the time I was spraying the shit round like champagne on the winners podium - but the Rotrex traction fluid is Very Expensive. Think "Unicorn Sperm" levels of expensive. So try to be careful and get the priming done right with not too much wasteagree totally, pretty sure i still have spare from last time... its alllll mine expensive stuff I got a whole bottle sitting in my shed, best part of 90 quid  It's like some sort of cure all elixier ________________________________________ Just Drive It |
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Posted 29th Jul 2010 at 20:15
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro  Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,901 Status: Offline |
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I know it's an old thread but I used one of the small mobile tyre compressors that have the torch built in that plugs into the fag lighter, I just wrapped some self amalgamating tape around the end of the hose until it was slightly bigger than the charger reservoirs dipstick hole, so it would seal, you could use electrical tape aswell.have your spanner or socket on the banjo bolt ready to tighten it back up when it pumps out and have some rag infront of the charger to stop it flowing down and dripping onto the p/s pump. It is a s**tty method for an expensive bit of kit, aswell as feeling the oil cooler for heat you should see some movement/flow of the oil in the reservoir. ________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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Posted 24th Mar 2012 at 00:22
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tvrfan007
Seasoned Pro  Location: In the garage Registered: 29 May 2005 Posts: 3,488 Status: Offline |
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What a fecking faff that looks like. Got to do that when i get home as the charger fluid needs a change.Not wrong about it being unicorn sperm prices either. Why can't you just raise the reservoir above the charger and fill it that way? or backfill the line? ________________________________________ I'm Si btw Night Blue VW Golf GTD Bianca LBSC Rallye - Track/Road Slag Project Thread Sparkling Silver Mini Cooper D - Super Dooper  - (The other half's wheels) |
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Posted 26th Mar 2012 at 16:21
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roland rat
Yeeeah Rat fans!  Location: Swansea Registered: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 22,284 Status: Offline |
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I used a foot pump attached to the outlet end of the pipework and slowly pumped away!  |
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Posted 28th Mar 2012 at 14:34
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,901 Status: Offline |
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That's probably the best idea ratman. It's a s**t procedure, and from what I've read the system will find its own oil level and spit any extra out it doesn't want out of the breather cap. ________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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Posted 28th Mar 2012 at 17:50
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marco gti6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Troisvierges Registered: 09 Mar 2009 Posts: 1,350 Status: Offline |
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rallyestyle wrote: judders wrote: rallyestyle wrote: I do try lol What do i win ? Erm... a week of not being flamed  |
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Posted 28th Mar 2012 at 17:54
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armzsc6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Crowborough Registered: 22 Mar 2008 Posts: 3,445 Status: Offline |
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Thread revival I know but has anyone tried just raising the tank above the charger till it p**ses out the banjo bolt? Gotta prime mine up for the first time tonight :/ if not I'll resort to the electric tyre pump and rig something to make a seal...________________________________________ Black power baby! SUUUUUPERCHARGED Seat Leon FR TDI 190BHP 300lbft daily gti-6 killer :p 12x 306's owned so far Cambelts, clutches, service work carried out on All makes and models, Peugeot Citroen / mitsubishi specialist. Pug planet / Citroen Lexia diagnostics / code reads available. |
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Posted 28th Jun 2012 at 14:18
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smegal
Seasoned Pro  Location: Leeds Registered: 26 Dec 2005 Posts: 5,940 Status: Offline |
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I can't really help, but let me know how you get on. Sound s like you're progressing well with it. ________________________________________ Ex SC-6Now in a Megane R26 |
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Posted 28th Jun 2012 at 14:44
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armzsc6
Seasoned Pro Location: Crowborough Registered: 22 Mar 2008 Posts: 3,445 Status: Offline |
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Yes mate nearly ready to run  all painted up as well got the inlet manifold back from the powder coaters this morning looks awesome but as the letters are still there I want them black so they stand out. Been painting them in with a cocktail stick fiddly as f**k! Lol just gotta fit the manifold prime the charger and setup the drive belt and she's a runner hopefully I'll send you some pics or have a look on fb at some I put on yesterday "Pete Armz Dann"Have got the full rotrex instructions online but think there has to be an easier way that what they say to do it. As long as there's a steady stream of fluid there at the oil inlet it should be fine. May get round to it onight may wait till the weekend. ________________________________________ Black power baby! SUUUUUPERCHARGED Seat Leon FR TDI 190BHP 300lbft daily gti-6 killer :p 12x 306's owned so far Cambelts, clutches, service work carried out on All makes and models, Peugeot Citroen / mitsubishi specialist. Pug planet / Citroen Lexia diagnostics / code reads available. |
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Posted 28th Jun 2012 at 14:57
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,901 Status: Offline |
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It's easy enough, it sounds more a ball ache than it is.It doesn't take long either. ________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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Posted 28th Jun 2012 at 15:24
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armzsc6
Seasoned Pro Location: Crowborough Registered: 22 Mar 2008 Posts: 3,445 Status: Offline |
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Think I'll have to use a suitable sized grommet and a length of tube offa tyre Pump. Unless one of my mates can blow hard enough........ ________________________________________ Black power baby! SUUUUUPERCHARGED Seat Leon FR TDI 190BHP 300lbft daily gti-6 killer :p 12x 306's owned so far Cambelts, clutches, service work carried out on All makes and models, Peugeot Citroen / mitsubishi specialist. Pug planet / Citroen Lexia diagnostics / code reads available. |
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Posted 28th Jun 2012 at 15:29
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,901 Status: Offline |
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Wrap electrical tape or self amalgamating tape or even parcel tape around the bit the air comesOut of until it's a nice sealed fit when you press on it, ten with the spammer on the banjo bolt ready to tighten it up when it spews out! ________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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Posted 28th Jun 2012 at 16:32
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