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 gti-dan
Regular  Location: Yorkshire Registered: 03 Jan 2010 Posts: 461 Status: Offline |
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Just looking on spoox at them now. TBH from the bits ive read about the two diffs Im leaning towards the quaife. They have a good rep and the way it handles is more progressive. I'm concerned that the tran-x lsd will be too hard to get used to and create steering issues. Lots of talk about plate diffs now though, would it be stupid not to get one and get a standard lsd? How much do new diffs weigh in comparison with the standard item??? |
 Posted 14th May 2010 at 18:49
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
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tranx from Miles  they can be set up to suit you to not have such a hard bite (ramp angles and preload etc) so shouldnt cause issue with steering etc. plate is a standard LSD... not sure on the weight, but it wont be much more, the benefits far outweigh any extra weight gain. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 14th May 2010 at 19:04
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gti-dan
Regular Location: Yorkshire Registered: 03 Jan 2010 Posts: 461 Status: Offline |
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hmmmmm, just read a bit more. the atb quaife is the one i want. being put off plate diffs by the servicing / setting up, and they seem more difficult to get used to. |
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Posted 14th May 2010 at 19:11
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
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naah, they're a doddle to get used to, just like a quaife but better, ask Miles ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 14th May 2010 at 19:25
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miles
Seasoned Pro  Location: Ringwood Registered: 28 Dec 2002 Posts: 3,433 Status: Offline |
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Don;t believe everything you rear on the web, Plate diff's are much better than the ATB, Half the weight for a start and servicing is all depending on how much you use them, just like a clutch, Some people get 200k from one others do 50k for example. I have loads of examples of happy customers, I;ve supplied a good 50 of them over the years, and only one older Gripper diff has been serviced in 5 years of use. I find ATB's worse for steering than plate's. ________________________________________ 306 Rallye Sptint/Race Car, 205 CTI 1.9 8v to name a fewRoad, Track and Race/Rally car preparation to your personal requirements, Full Workshop & Diagnostic Facilities New and Second parts, from Plugs to Turbo's We now also carry out Routine Servicing www.pugracing.com & FB Page, https://www.facebook.com/PugRacing Ebay; http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Pug-Racing-Shop 2012/2013/2014/2019 Class Winners at Gurston Down Speed Hillclimb & Joint overall, Class record too along the way, |
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Posted 14th May 2010 at 19:37
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allanallen
Seasoned Pro  Location: Buxton Registered: 01 May 2007 Posts: 1,399 Status: Offline |
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I'm one of miles's happy tran-x customers. Mines in a high powered 205 with no PAS and its bloody amazing. It is on the softest pre-load setting with 45/45 ramps. Steering is fine and it doesn't clunk and bang at slow speeds like you read on the net. Best mod I've done to the car!________________________________________ www.bridgecraftmotorsport.co.uk |
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Posted 15th May 2010 at 00:20
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tannerman
Senior User  Location: POOLE Registered: 28 Apr 2010 Posts: 583 Status: Offline |
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i am gettin an atb fit this weekend...everyone iv ever spoken to have sworn by them. ________________________________________ DO YOU HAVE PROBLEMS WITH BUM FLUFF |
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Posted 15th May 2010 at 18:12
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miles
Seasoned Pro Location: Ringwood Registered: 28 Dec 2002 Posts: 3,433 Status: Offline |
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You never talked to me, LOLI hate the things ________________________________________ 306 Rallye Sptint/Race Car, 205 CTI 1.9 8v to name a fewRoad, Track and Race/Rally car preparation to your personal requirements, Full Workshop & Diagnostic Facilities New and Second parts, from Plugs to Turbo's We now also carry out Routine Servicing www.pugracing.com & FB Page, https://www.facebook.com/PugRacing Ebay; http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Pug-Racing-Shop 2012/2013/2014/2019 Class Winners at Gurston Down Speed Hillclimb & Joint overall, Class record too along the way, |
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Posted 16th May 2010 at 04:46
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fletch
Track Head  Location: The nearest Shell garage Registered: 12 Jun 2004 Posts: 12,273 Status: Offline |
Post #9
Plate diffs FTMFW, too much is made of the renewal aspect, its so infrequent, its not worth worrying about. |
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Posted 16th May 2010 at 04:59
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mabgti
NV motors  Location: Bham tunnel @7400rpm Registered: 28 Aug 2003 Posts: 9,127 Status: Offline |
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price miles?________________________________________ Team Supercharged Gti-6NV Motorsport Automotive Performance Tuning 0121 448 7515 ECU Remapping/ DPF removal VAG/BMW Diag and Option Coding Peugeot Planet ECU coding/transponder programming etc www.nvmotorsport.com Facebook Page Project S6 |
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Posted 16th May 2010 at 05:04
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro  Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
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+1Lightly set plate is far better than an ATB ever will be. ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 16th May 2010 at 05:24
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allanallen
Seasoned Pro Location: Buxton Registered: 01 May 2007 Posts: 1,399 Status: Offline |
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fletch wrote: Plate diffs FTMFW, too much is made of the renewal aspect, its so infrequent, its not worth worrying about. This is very true, I recently stripped and inspected a tran-x for my brother, I believe it had done around 15k on road and track and the plates were hardly marked. Needless to say they went back in and i'm sure they'll happily do another 15k + ________________________________________ www.bridgecraftmotorsport.co.uk |
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Posted 16th May 2010 at 05:53
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tannerman
Senior User Location: POOLE Registered: 28 Apr 2010 Posts: 583 Status: Offline |
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quote: I hate the things why do you hate them so much??? ________________________________________ DO YOU HAVE PROBLEMS WITH BUM FLUFF |
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Posted 16th May 2010 at 14:58
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miles
Seasoned Pro Location: Ringwood Registered: 28 Dec 2002 Posts: 3,433 Status: Offline |
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As above really and the weight of the thing's plus if you lift a wheel it act's the same as a open diff.Price's please contact me but your looking a shade over £600.00 with Bearings and bolts ________________________________________ 306 Rallye Sptint/Race Car, 205 CTI 1.9 8v to name a fewRoad, Track and Race/Rally car preparation to your personal requirements, Full Workshop & Diagnostic Facilities New and Second parts, from Plugs to Turbo's We now also carry out Routine Servicing www.pugracing.com & FB Page, https://www.facebook.com/PugRacing Ebay; http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Pug-Racing-Shop 2012/2013/2014/2019 Class Winners at Gurston Down Speed Hillclimb & Joint overall, Class record too along the way, |
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Posted 17th May 2010 at 03:37
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pinkfloyd
Senior User  Location: Ellesmere port Registered: 03 Oct 2006 Posts: 929 Status: Offline |
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I bought an ATB for my sprint car 2 years ago without doing enough homework, when the diff is "working" i love it, it has got my lap times down BUT on some corners it's like its just not there, I have to cheat the car to make the diff "kick in". 100% love it in the wet though! ________________________________________ Liverpool Motor Club Sprint champion 2017Longton & District Motor Club Sprint champion 2017 Liverpool Motor Club Sprint champion 2016 Liverpool Motor Club Sprint champion 2015 Lancashire & Cheshire Speed Championship Winner 2014 2nd 2013 Winner 2012 2nd 2011 Winner 2010 Winner 2009 Winner 2008 Winner 2007 2nd 2006. |
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Posted 17th May 2010 at 03:49
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andyrob
Newbie Location: cramlington Registered: 29 Nov 2009 Posts: 16 Status: Offline |
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plate diff all the way cos @ the end of the day an atb it only driving one wheelIf your doing any standing starts plate diff will be much quicker than atb |
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Posted 17th May 2010 at 04:00
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tannerman
Senior User Location: POOLE Registered: 28 Apr 2010 Posts: 583 Status: Offline |
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andyrob wrote: plate diff all the way cos @ the end of the day an atb it only driving one wheel If your doing any standing starts plate diff will be much quicker than atb But in a straight line the ATB drives BOTH wheels ________________________________________ DO YOU HAVE PROBLEMS WITH BUM FLUFF |
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Posted 17th May 2010 at 18:51
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gti-dan
Regular Location: Yorkshire Registered: 03 Jan 2010 Posts: 461 Status: Offline |
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what - does a plate diff only ever drive one? is that why people describe them as pulling you across the road in either direction?anyway - on the track on sunday i noticed that on long seeping high speed corners i was squeeling all the way round whereas a 106 and a 205 with LSD's didn't squeel at all. Would it be that a wheel on mine was losing traction and all power going to that so i was just skidding straight forward rather than powering around the bend??? |
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Posted 17th May 2010 at 23:04
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tannerman
Senior User Location: POOLE Registered: 28 Apr 2010 Posts: 583 Status: Offline |
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no mate the atb switches the power to the wheel with most traction so when you turn left the right wheel will have the most drive and visa versa but in a str8 line both wheel take the drive.________________________________________ DO YOU HAVE PROBLEMS WITH BUM FLUFF |
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Posted 18th May 2010 at 01:58
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
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whereas a plate diff can be setup with varying degrees of slip, in a standing start launch (or heavy throttle applications when turning) they will lock both wheels together.an ATB will not do this if you spin one wheel, you'll just sit there spinning as the dude with less power and a plate diff pulls away into the distance ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 18th May 2010 at 02:23
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey  Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
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welshpug! wrote: whereas a plate diff can be setup with varying degrees of slip, in a standing start launch (or heavy throttle applications when turning) they will lock both wheels together. an ATB will not do this if you spin one wheel, you'll just sit there spinning as the dude with less power and a plate diff pulls away into the distance Thats why my Quaife will be up for grabs soon... What a f*cking brilliant advert you guys have made for my ATB  c*nts  ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 18th May 2010 at 02:51
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,839 Status: Offline |
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  I'd say they are good, if you understand their limitations and how they work.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 18th May 2010 at 04:06
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
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welshpug! wrote: I'd say they are good, if you understand their limitations and how they work.I do, I just think a plate type would better suit the use the car is going to be put to from now on. ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 18th May 2010 at 04:18
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fletch
Track Head Location: The nearest Shell garage Registered: 12 Jun 2004 Posts: 12,273 Status: Offline |
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daveyboy wrote: What a f*cking brilliant advert you guys have made for my ATB c*nts |
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Posted 18th May 2010 at 04:22
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gti-dan
Regular Location: Yorkshire Registered: 03 Jan 2010 Posts: 461 Status: Offline |
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cheers for all the advice - i have spoken to tran-x today - told them it will be used in hillclimbing and as such dont want it too snatchy. They recommended 30/60 ramp angles and lightweight (rather than fully inter....) I'm 90% there with being convinced that this is the way to go, one thing i have been thinking about though, say you are hammering around a hairpin, slidding out a bit, understeering, and you hammer the throttle, the diff locks both the front wheels - is this not going to cause bad understeer?!?!? lastly, i presume a good peugeot indy could fit it? |
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Posted 20th May 2010 at 00:33
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