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 welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #51
307  the BE4 hydraulic gearbox uses the same pressure plate and bearing, just a different arm with a slave cylinder bolted on the front. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
 Posted 25th Feb 2011 at 01:45
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206
Newbie  Location: Belgrade Registered: 24 Feb 2011 Posts: 42 Status: Offline |
Post #52
Which one, the 2.0?I've heard that some of the commercial vehicles, with diesels, might also use the version of the hydraulic BE4...? |
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Posted 25th Feb 2011 at 02:52
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #53
the petrol 2.0 and anything smaller that doesnt use the MA.Most of the 2.0 + 2.2 diesels and the 2.2 Puma diesel in the commercials use an ML5 or ML6 gearbox. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 25th Feb 2011 at 03:11
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206
Newbie Location: Belgrade Registered: 24 Feb 2011 Posts: 42 Status: Offline |
Post #54
Ok, i'll try and find on and see how it goes, if the standard hydraulic clutch setup will work with the AP clutch. |
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Posted 25th Feb 2011 at 03:19
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey  Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
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206 wrote: Oh, btw - the car - 206 GTI, EW10J4, GT30 turbo, ITBs, nitrous, TON of other mods, 6 years and who knows ho much $$$. 470BHP. Finally a 206 I like   ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 25th Feb 2011 at 03:25
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206
Newbie Location: Belgrade Registered: 24 Feb 2011 Posts: 42 Status: Offline |
Post #56
I bet you'll like this even better, then No thread hijacking any more, i promise...  206 has attached the following image: |
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Posted 25th Feb 2011 at 03:55
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #57
very nice, this is the second TB/Turbo setup on here in a short space of time, have to admit I'd never even heard of mixing the two induction types until last week. Technicly it's still a plenum style inlet, but with the throttle butterflies in the runners instead of the mouth of ther plenum. You calibrate the engine map with a MAP sensor on the plenum somewhere I guess?________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 26th Feb 2011 at 15:09
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206
Newbie Location: Belgrade Registered: 24 Feb 2011 Posts: 42 Status: Offline |
Post #58
Two MAPs and a TPS - TPS (AlphaN mapping) for lower revs for more precise control as MAPs have poor resolution while off boost (TB setups are like that), making the transition to MAP control gradually as it starts coming out of the vacuum.2 MAPs are on the car, one before and the other after the throttle plates, gives much more precise and quicker boost control, with positive feedback control. Soon to be mapped on E85 (~550BHP), which should put it back on the 1st place as the world's most powerful EW10 Can this be split as a new topic, i don't want to disrupt this one anymore? |
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Posted 26th Feb 2011 at 16:27
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cwspellowe
Seasoned Pro  Location: Calderbank Registered: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 6,496 Status: Offline |
Post #59
Just make your own thread  More pics in it too  ________________________________________ Bye bye Sundance Kid |
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Posted 26th Feb 2011 at 19:53
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
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206 wrote: Two MAPs and a TPS - TPS (AlphaN mapping) for lower revs for more precise control as MAPs have poor resolution while off boost (TB setups are like that), making the transition to MAP control gradually as it starts coming out of the vacuum. 2 MAPs are on the car, one before and the other after the throttle plates, gives much more precise and quicker boost control, with positive feedback control. Soon to be mapped on E85 (~550BHP), which should put it back on the 1st place as the world's most powerful EW10 Can this be split as a new topic, i don't want to disrupt this one anymore? Sounds like a very well resolved setup. I imagine wheelspin is a major problem for you though. ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 26th Feb 2011 at 21:20
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206
Newbie Location: Belgrade Registered: 24 Feb 2011 Posts: 42 Status: Offline |
Post #61
No, not really - i'll open a new topic, post a few video links, pics, specs, etc.Anyway, anybody got anything to add on the topic of the gearbox? |
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Posted 27th Feb 2011 at 00:16
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rallyeash
Seasoned Pro  Location: Devizes Registered: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,424 Status: Offline |
Post #62
daveyboy wrote: this is the second TB/Turbo setup on here in a short space of time, have to admit I'd never even heard of mixing the two induction types until last week. somewhere I guess? standard on the lotus esprit...   ________________________________________ 230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R |
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Posted 1st Mar 2011 at 01:04
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206
Newbie Location: Belgrade Registered: 24 Feb 2011 Posts: 42 Status: Offline |
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Nissan Skyline as well |
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Posted 1st Mar 2011 at 02:05
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #64
Pulsar GTIr too ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 1st Mar 2011 at 02:32
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206
Newbie Location: Belgrade Registered: 24 Feb 2011 Posts: 42 Status: Offline |
Post #65
Ok, furthermore - what should be the clearance between the hydraulic bearing and the plate cover, and what should be the piston travel - e.g. on the pictures posted earlier in the thread? |
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Posted 2nd Mar 2011 at 15:52
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bobdylan_55
Seasoned Pro Location: derby Registered: 28 Mar 2009 Posts: 1,466 Status: Offline |
Post #66
dont know if its been said or not yet, but change to the ml5 gearbox from 406 coupes or 2.0 turbo etc they fit straight on and are hydraulic. The biggest pain is remanufacturing the hydraulic hosing from the slave and then fitting a master cylinder somewhere. O and bleeding can be a pain in the batty if you get the old style slave as it has no bleed point. Best way id recommend is to get the newer slave with the metal union and pipework, cut it off about 3 inch from the slave, put another brake union onto it and joiner etc to some more brake pipe and then go from there. ________________________________________ 309 GTi6-T |
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Posted 2nd Mar 2011 at 16:04
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bobdylan_55
Seasoned Pro Location: derby Registered: 28 Mar 2009 Posts: 1,466 Status: Offline |
Post #67
ecureuil_zx16v wrote: mine  for this clutch  Just wondering how you managed to get this flywheel to work? the inner diameter of the flywheel wheel for this clutch setup needs to be a maximum of 132mm, where as this flywheel has an inner diameter of 160mm. Did you have to make an adapter? thanks ________________________________________ 309 GTi6-T |
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petert
Newbie Location: Sydney Registered: 18 Mar 2007 Posts: 38 Status: Offline |
Post #68
Sorry, only a few years late @bobdylan_55. Use a 205 1.6L Motronic flywheel. |
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