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The wife phoned to say her 306 had broken down ________________________________________
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 swifter gti6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Lancashire Registered: 04 Apr 2004 Posts: 10,760 Status: Offline |
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 Posted 16th Dec 2009 at 21:18
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
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the engine cutting out is most likely because she stomped on the brake pedal without dipping the clutch  solid pedal was possibly due to the ABS having gone mental, did RAC man do anything to the car? ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 16th Dec 2009 at 21:39
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al4x
Seasoned Pro  Location: Hitchin Registered: 20 May 2003 Posts: 23,513 Status: Offline |
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the engine hadn't stalled after the stop had it? sounds like a lack of servo assistance but it usually works for a few goes even after you switch off |
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Posted 16th Dec 2009 at 21:45
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swifter gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: Lancashire Registered: 04 Apr 2004 Posts: 10,760 Status: Offline |
Post #4
She says she did dip the clutch although I suspect maybe she didn't.No. He did nothing - its was fine when he got in and started it. He said he thinks it may have been due to the servo from the engine cutting out. ________________________________________ Wedding and portrait photography click here |
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Posted 16th Dec 2009 at 21:46
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swifter gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: Lancashire Registered: 04 Apr 2004 Posts: 10,760 Status: Offline |
Post #5
al4x wrote: the engine hadn't stalled after the stop had it? sounds like a lack of servo assistance but it usually works for a few goes even after you switch off Thats how she explained it - it stalled after she stopped. ________________________________________ Wedding and portrait photography click here |
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Posted 16th Dec 2009 at 21:47
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al4x
Seasoned Pro Location: Hitchin Registered: 20 May 2003 Posts: 23,513 Status: Offline |
Post #6
sounds like it went hard while it was still moving after stalling, women get a bit confused at times so probably best to say yes dear I'll get it checked. Take it for a razz and say its been mended sounds like thats what the RAC bloke thinks |
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Posted 16th Dec 2009 at 21:59
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swifter gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: Lancashire Registered: 04 Apr 2004 Posts: 10,760 Status: Offline |
Post #7
Yes, the peddle went hard. The RAC bloke took it for a spin.I am having the garage check the full brake system over on Friday. It could do with doing anyway. ________________________________________ Wedding and portrait photography click here |
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Posted 16th Dec 2009 at 22:53
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rallyestyle
Seasoned Pro  Location: London Registered: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 14,990 Status: Offline |
Post #8
My ex had this issue on her 306, when the car stalled the brakes didnt work  I was always under the impression that brakes would work to some degree even if everything else shutdown?  ________________________________________ Just Drive It |
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Posted 17th Dec 2009 at 18:25
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro  Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
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They do, but you need to press the brakes harder.Doesn't help if the check valve in the servo line isn't sealing properly though either. ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 17th Dec 2009 at 18:28
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rallyestyle
Seasoned Pro Location: London Registered: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 14,990 Status: Offline |
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phillipm wrote: They do, but you need to press the brakes harder. Doesn't help if the check valve in the servo line isn't sealing properly though either. Cool, thats what i was telling her at the time but she looked at me like i was some sort of spaz  ________________________________________ Just Drive It |
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Posted 17th Dec 2009 at 20:31
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swifter gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: Lancashire Registered: 04 Apr 2004 Posts: 10,760 Status: Offline |
Post #11
She has gone out this morning and the peddle just goes straight to the floor almost. The brake works slightly but not well.Same problem? ________________________________________ Wedding and portrait photography click here |
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Posted 18th Dec 2009 at 14:28
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #12
shot M/C seals is the only suggestion I can think of.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 18th Dec 2009 at 14:44
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rikky
🦔 Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,795 Status: Offline |
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nicking your topic a bit, but i have just took my servo apart to clean it up, where/what is the "check valve", the spindle inside it? i haven't touched that but if something was worth doing i wish i'd have seen this sooner  the master cylinder seal on the reverse of the MC (inset) also looks ok but i did have a small drip from the join sometimes. cleaned it up best i can cos i don't fancy buying a new MC just yet might f*ck it off and run a diff pedal box, less problems ________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 18th Dec 2009 at 14:53
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
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the valve is that white bit the hose to the vacuum pump connects to.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 18th Dec 2009 at 14:57
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rikky
🦔 Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,795 Status: Offline |
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oh, so it's just a little 90degree plastic outlet connected via a rubber grommet i think. i pulled it all out and refitted it after, looked ok and sealed nicely.. we'll see when my brakes fail entirely..  sorry, ignore that, you mean the actual one at the pump the white and black one with outlets on it with the direction indicator on it________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 18th Dec 2009 at 15:08
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swifter gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: Lancashire Registered: 04 Apr 2004 Posts: 10,760 Status: Offline |
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welshpug! wrote: shot M/C seals is the only suggestion I can think of. Easy fix? Ricky - get your own topic  ________________________________________ Wedding and portrait photography click here |
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Posted 18th Dec 2009 at 15:22
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rikky
🦔 Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,795 Status: Offline |
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the seal is discontinued.. see my MC thread not long ago.. new MC ________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 18th Dec 2009 at 15:28
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swifter gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: Lancashire Registered: 04 Apr 2004 Posts: 10,760 Status: Offline |
Post #18
Just checked and the fluid is very low.Thats not something I have ever seen before. ________________________________________ Wedding and portrait photography click here |
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Posted 18th Dec 2009 at 17:58
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tom tom go
Tom Tom GONE!!  Location: Doncaster Registered: 29 May 2008 Posts: 1,926 Status: Offline |
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Have you checked all the brake lines for leaks or splits. One of the lines split on mine and it slowly lost its fluid over a couple of days, every now and again the pedal would go striaght to the floor then it would work fine. Eventually the pedal went to the floor and there was nothing at all, even after repeated presses. Replaced the split line, new fluids and all has been well since. Don't know if this bare's any relevance but may be worth a check ?! ________________________________________ Cherry RALLYE |
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Posted 18th Dec 2009 at 18:23
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
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rikky wrote: sorry, ignore that, you mean the actual one at the pump the white and black one with outlets on it with the direction indicator on itYeah, it's just a little plastic housing with a sealing disc and a spring in it - they do start sealing a bit intermittently over time though, so worth cleaning out if nothing else. ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 18th Dec 2009 at 19:37
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swifter gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: Lancashire Registered: 04 Apr 2004 Posts: 10,760 Status: Offline |
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Traced the problem back to the Cylinder - ________________________________________ Wedding and portrait photography click here |
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Posted 21st Dec 2009 at 02:22
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rikky
🦔 Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,795 Status: Offline |
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what cylinder? master cylinder?did they replace it for ________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 21st Dec 2009 at 03:24
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swifter gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: Lancashire Registered: 04 Apr 2004 Posts: 10,760 Status: Offline |
Post #23
I asumed master cylinder - its at the back. ________________________________________ Wedding and portrait photography click here |
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Posted 21st Dec 2009 at 03:30
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