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Hi,Got a DTA wiring loom to go with a DTA ECU. It
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 itchytrigafinga
Senior User  Location: Sidmouth Registered: 21 Mar 2008 Posts: 789 Status: Offline |
Got a DTA wiring loom to go with a DTA ECU. It |
 Posted 25th Sep 2009 at 23:20
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ablister
Senior User  Location: fife Registered: 30 Oct 2005 Posts: 522 Status: Offline |
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what ecu is it are there are a few diagams availabledta website ________________________________________ 306 rallye, Richard Longman enginerc10gt |
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Posted 26th Sep 2009 at 02:27
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itchytrigafinga
Senior User Location: Sidmouth Registered: 21 Mar 2008 Posts: 789 Status: Offline |
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ablister wrote: I've got the E84 model one. That diagram helps a bit, allthough i have the wireing loom already wired up and labled, i just dont know which connectors im surrpsed to plug into the 3? Where abouts would i likely find them in the 6 engine bay?  |
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Posted 26th Sep 2009 at 04:45
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spiky
Seasoned Pro  Location: Cardiff Registered: 13 Oct 2006 Posts: 2,310 Status: Offline |
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power will probably need a 12v feeddash could be anything, like a shift light or something relays could be to feed the fuel relays (mine is like this, send a earth to the fuel relays) i also have fan control too, ________________________________________ Do you need a 205 > 306 gti6 plug and go engine loom? PM METORQUES for all your braided fuel line needs MY YouTube Videos' SUPERCHARGED 205 GTI6.... are you Fooking nuts!.... ummmm YIP  268+BHP and 860kg = FUN |
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Posted 26th Sep 2009 at 14:16
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itchytrigafinga
Senior User Location: Sidmouth Registered: 21 Mar 2008 Posts: 789 Status: Offline |
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spiky wrote: power will probably need a 12v feed dash could be anything, like a shift light or something relays could be to feed the fuel relays (mine is like this, send a earth to the fuel relays) i also have fan control too, Ahh ok thanks, so nothing standard on the car would fit these plugs? I thought thats what they might be for, Cheers mate. |
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Posted 26th Sep 2009 at 14:25
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spiky
Seasoned Pro Location: Cardiff Registered: 13 Oct 2006 Posts: 2,310 Status: Offline |
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get some pic's up  ________________________________________ Do you need a 205 > 306 gti6 plug and go engine loom? PM METORQUES for all your braided fuel line needs MY YouTube Videos' SUPERCHARGED 205 GTI6.... are you Fooking nuts!.... ummmm YIP 268+BHP and 860kg = FUN |
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Posted 26th Sep 2009 at 15:40
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itchytrigafinga
Senior User Location: Sidmouth Registered: 21 Mar 2008 Posts: 789 Status: Offline |
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spiky wrote: get some pic's up Pics of the loom? Hit another problem, took the cover of the top of the engine, and its got one plug per cylinder for the coils. The wireing loom only has one coil plug, how do i get aroung this? Do i need to get an adapter to make it only one plug? |
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Posted 26th Sep 2009 at 16:24
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spiky
Seasoned Pro Location: Cardiff Registered: 13 Oct 2006 Posts: 2,310 Status: Offline |
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i run a coil pack ________________________________________ Do you need a 205 > 306 gti6 plug and go engine loom? PM METORQUES for all your braided fuel line needs MY YouTube Videos' SUPERCHARGED 205 GTI6.... are you Fooking nuts!.... ummmm YIP 268+BHP and 860kg = FUN |
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Posted 26th Sep 2009 at 16:27
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itchytrigafinga
Senior User Location: Sidmouth Registered: 21 Mar 2008 Posts: 789 Status: Offline |
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spiky wrote: i run a coil pack Would i be able to get one off a standard engine with leads if they fit? If i can do you know what cars i would be able to get them off. I dont have the coil pack and leads so would need to get them before i can put thebodies on etc and wireing loom. Cheers |
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Posted 26th Sep 2009 at 16:30
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spiky
Seasoned Pro Location: Cardiff Registered: 13 Oct 2006 Posts: 2,310 Status: Offline |
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the lease are vaux corsa B leadsthe coil pack is a 306 8v on ________________________________________ Do you need a 205 > 306 gti6 plug and go engine loom? PM METORQUES for all your braided fuel line needs MY YouTube Videos' SUPERCHARGED 205 GTI6.... are you Fooking nuts!.... ummmm YIP 268+BHP and 860kg = FUN |
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Posted 26th Sep 2009 at 16:31
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itchytrigafinga
Senior User Location: Sidmouth Registered: 21 Mar 2008 Posts: 789 Status: Offline |
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spiky wrote: the lease are vaux corsa B leads the coil pack is a 306 8v on Only plug we have left is the crank sensor plug, is this the one located towards the left of the rocker cover? The 3 pin plug? |
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Posted 26th Sep 2009 at 19:16
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spiky
Seasoned Pro Location: Cardiff Registered: 13 Oct 2006 Posts: 2,310 Status: Offline |
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that is the one that bolts on the gearbox , i use a std gti6 crank sensor________________________________________ Do you need a 205 > 306 gti6 plug and go engine loom? PM METORQUES for all your braided fuel line needs MY YouTube Videos' SUPERCHARGED 205 GTI6.... are you Fooking nuts!.... ummmm YIP 268+BHP and 860kg = FUN |
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Posted 26th Sep 2009 at 19:17
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itchytrigafinga
Senior User Location: Sidmouth Registered: 21 Mar 2008 Posts: 789 Status: Offline |
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spiky wrote: that is the one that bolts on the gearbox , i use a std gti6 crank sensorOk, What happens to all the wires that are disconnected from the old ECU? there arnt enough plugs on the new loom to plug them in so they all connect? Ive taken the old ecu out, im assuming anything connected to the eold ecu will not work? |
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Posted 26th Sep 2009 at 19:19
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ablister
Senior User Location: fife Registered: 30 Oct 2005 Posts: 522 Status: Offline |
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the 306 loom will be of no use when using the dta ecu/loom. All you'll need is the 2 wires for the reverse light switch on gearbox. You won't have connectors on the dta loom for some of the engine sensors, eg purge canistor.the dta wiring diagrams will explain everything regarding 12v supply, relays, tacho signal etc ________________________________________ 306 rallye, Richard Longman enginerc10gt |
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Posted 26th Sep 2009 at 22:03
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itchytrigafinga
Senior User Location: Sidmouth Registered: 21 Mar 2008 Posts: 789 Status: Offline |
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ablister wrote: the 306 loom will be of no use when using the dta ecu/loom. All you'll need is the 2 wires for the reverse light switch on gearbox. You won't have connectors on the dta loom for some of the engine sensors, eg purge canistor. the dta wiring diagrams will explain everything regarding 12v supply, relays, tacho signal etc Yeah i thought about that. I have decided to leave it for the pro's to do now, all i will do is end up f*cking it up anyway  .Cheers for the help. |
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Posted 26th Sep 2009 at 22:06
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spiky
Seasoned Pro Location: Cardiff Registered: 13 Oct 2006 Posts: 2,310 Status: Offline |
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you remove the old ecu and all the loom ________________________________________ Do you need a 205 > 306 gti6 plug and go engine loom? PM METORQUES for all your braided fuel line needs MY YouTube Videos' SUPERCHARGED 205 GTI6.... are you Fooking nuts!.... ummmm YIP 268+BHP and 860kg = FUN |
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Posted 26th Sep 2009 at 23:08
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itchytrigafinga
Senior User Location: Sidmouth Registered: 21 Mar 2008 Posts: 789 Status: Offline |
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spiky wrote: you remove the old ecu and all the loom Yeah but there are like 3 of 4 connectors on the throttle body, one is the tps which is ok i had a cable on the new loom for that. But all the other 3 sensors dont have connectors on the new loom and i cant see its right that the bodies only need the tps connecting? As said above, some of the factory ecu sensors wont work. I also dont think the fule relay has a connector on the new ecu, i think i willleave it to a garage. |
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Posted 26th Sep 2009 at 23:57
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dj_turbo
Regular  Location: Shaftesbury Registered: 11 Jun 2005 Posts: 219 Status: Offline |
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All you need connected for it to run are:Air temp water temp coil pack crank sensor throttle pos injectors Then fuel pump feed / relay Taco earth 12v feed You wont need any of the other sensors. just overide the idle control valve |
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Posted 27th Sep 2009 at 00:17
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ablister
Senior User Location: fife Registered: 30 Oct 2005 Posts: 522 Status: Offline |
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is this for a throttle body conversion? If so, all you'll need is the tps sensor and possible air temp for the induction side.________________________________________ 306 rallye, Richard Longman enginerc10gt |
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Posted 27th Sep 2009 at 00:15
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itchytrigafinga
Senior User Location: Sidmouth Registered: 21 Mar 2008 Posts: 789 Status: Offline |
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ablister wrote: is this for a throttle body conversion? If so, all you'll need is the tps sensor and possible air temp for the induction side. Yeah it |
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Posted 30th Sep 2009 at 01:30
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spiky
Seasoned Pro Location: Cardiff Registered: 13 Oct 2006 Posts: 2,310 Status: Offline |
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no maf no idle control neither used on mine ________________________________________ Do you need a 205 > 306 gti6 plug and go engine loom? PM METORQUES for all your braided fuel line needs MY YouTube Videos' SUPERCHARGED 205 GTI6.... are you Fooking nuts!.... ummmm YIP 268+BHP and 860kg = FUN |
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Posted 30th Sep 2009 at 01:38
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itchytrigafinga
Senior User Location: Sidmouth Registered: 21 Mar 2008 Posts: 789 Status: Offline |
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spiky wrote: no maf no idle control neither used on mine How does it work though? Bloke seemed to think the ICV was for the servo assistance? And it was needed on the manifold as its the only place you get a vacum. Wont it run like balls with no MAP sensor also? Cheers |
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Posted 30th Sep 2009 at 01:41
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spiky
Seasoned Pro Location: Cardiff Registered: 13 Oct 2006 Posts: 2,310 Status: Offline |
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lol i think you need to stop talking to him...mine runs perfect dude  gti6 has a vacum pump remember that the servo connects on to ICV is for Idle control..lol nothing to do with the brakes ________________________________________ Do you need a 205 > 306 gti6 plug and go engine loom? PM METORQUES for all your braided fuel line needs MY YouTube Videos' SUPERCHARGED 205 GTI6.... are you Fooking nuts!.... ummmm YIP 268+BHP and 860kg = FUN |
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Posted 30th Sep 2009 at 01:42
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miles
Seasoned Pro  Location: Ringwood Registered: 28 Dec 2002 Posts: 3,433 Status: Offline |
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As said on bodies unless your taking Weber one's you don;t have a ICV or MAP so I think I would avoid any advice by your mate personally as he's barking up the wrong tree.Coil pack wise just use one from a XSi, much neater and no messy HT leads Look at what DJ's posted about what you need to run the engine is very little and it does surprize allot of people ________________________________________ 306 Rallye Sptint/Race Car, 205 CTI 1.9 8v to name a fewRoad, Track and Race/Rally car preparation to your personal requirements, Full Workshop & Diagnostic Facilities New and Second parts, from Plugs to Turbo's We now also carry out Routine Servicing www.pugracing.com & FB Page, https://www.facebook.com/PugRacing Ebay; http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Pug-Racing-Shop 2012/2013/2014/2019 Class Winners at Gurston Down Speed Hillclimb & Joint overall, Class record too along the way, |
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Posted 30th Sep 2009 at 05:32
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itchytrigafinga
Senior User Location: Sidmouth Registered: 21 Mar 2008 Posts: 789 Status: Offline |
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Say for example I wanted to fit the bodies and keep the standard ecu and loom, until I can get the loom fitted and the new ecu remapped, would this work or would I have any problems, provided I connect the tps sensor?I know this would not be idea and is not intended to be a permanent solution. Cheers |
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Posted 30th Sep 2009 at 18:45
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