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lets hope we've found the right shafts to be able to do a cheaper wide track conversion.________________________________________
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 vittesse_tuning
Senior User  Location: silverstone Registered: 20 Jul 2009 Posts: 631 Status: Offline |
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 Posted 29th Aug 2009 at 01:18
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birk
Seasoned Pro  Location: Doncaster Registered: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 7,032 Status: Offline |
Post #27
Get some pics up now man lol________________________________________ Dimma + Gt35 turbo = Solid rear beam mounts £130 07889376885 Dan |
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Posted 29th Aug 2009 at 01:19
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vittesse_tuning
Senior User Location: silverstone Registered: 20 Jul 2009 Posts: 631 Status: Offline |
Post #28
need to use my brothers camera and he's not about. will upload some when i get back from working the weekend.________________________________________ custom carbonfibre and fibre glass parts. 07513059320 |
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Posted 29th Aug 2009 at 14:10
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martinj
Regular  Location: Berkshire Registered: 12 Feb 2007 Posts: 322 Status: Offline |
Post #29
If you have access to a range of vehicles to check the shafts, have a look at a non turbo diesel van's shafts, I think they may have the right number of inner splines to use the gti6 outer cv joint, if the cv joints aren't the same. I think the turbo diesel version will have the wrong number of inner splines if the out cv is not a match for the 306 hub.All from what I have been able to research, but never had the time to go looking at the actual items to date. Martin ________________________________________ - Maxi rear axle hub spacers +53mm per side- Maxi front steering rack extensions +40mm per side |
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Posted 31st Aug 2009 at 17:07
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vittesse_tuning
Senior User Location: silverstone Registered: 20 Jul 2009 Posts: 631 Status: Offline |
Post #30
sounds good i'm going down to the scrap yard today so will check the hub fitting and abs pickup. ________________________________________ custom carbonfibre and fibre glass parts. 07513059320 |
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Posted 2nd Sep 2009 at 13:48
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vittesse_tuning
Senior User Location: silverstone Registered: 20 Jul 2009 Posts: 631 Status: Offline |
Post #31
got drive shafts now just need to get new cv because the hub fitting was wrong but the splines are the same as the 306 so should just swap straight over.________________________________________ custom carbonfibre and fibre glass parts. 07513059320 |
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Posted 7th Sep 2009 at 17:36
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martinj
Regular Location: Berkshire Registered: 12 Feb 2007 Posts: 322 Status: Offline |
Post #32
which shafts were they in the end?________________________________________ - Maxi rear axle hub spacers +53mm per side- Maxi front steering rack extensions +40mm per side |
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Posted 13th Sep 2009 at 13:21
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vittesse_tuning
Senior User Location: silverstone Registered: 20 Jul 2009 Posts: 631 Status: Offline |
Post #33
they are dispatch diesel shafts. same dia as my 306 diesel shafts and the cv's did need to be swapped over. seems ok so far just need to work on the rest of it now.________________________________________ custom carbonfibre and fibre glass parts. 07513059320 |
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Posted 13th Sep 2009 at 14:38
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vittesse_tuning
Senior User Location: silverstone Registered: 20 Jul 2009 Posts: 631 Status: Offline |
Post #34
i have a pair of dispatch shafts for sale if any one wants them. there was only two pairs in the scrap yard so grab both as they don't come up for sale to often.________________________________________ custom carbonfibre and fibre glass parts. 07513059320 |
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Posted 14th Sep 2009 at 22:14
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birk
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Post #35
Can we have proof they fit on a dimma ?________________________________________ Dimma + Gt35 turbo =Solid rear beam mounts £130 07889376885 Dan |
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Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 02:24
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vittesse_tuning
Senior User Location: silverstone Registered: 20 Jul 2009 Posts: 631 Status: Offline |
Post #36
will try and arrange sending my set out to you to try. the are 40mm longer than standard shafts.________________________________________ custom carbonfibre and fibre glass parts. 07513059320 |
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Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 17:49
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birk
Seasoned Pro Location: Doncaster Registered: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 7,032 Status: Offline |
Post #37
Engines going in the car in the next few days, be good if you could get them down to me asap before i put it back together.________________________________________ Dimma + Gt35 turbo =Solid rear beam mounts £130 07889376885 Dan |
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Posted 15th Sep 2009 at 18:19
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martinj
Regular Location: Berkshire Registered: 12 Feb 2007 Posts: 322 Status: Offline |
Post #38
did you get anywhere with this?________________________________________ - Maxi rear axle hub spacers +53mm per side- Maxi front steering rack extensions +40mm per side |
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Posted 14th Oct 2009 at 16:19
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vittesse_tuning
Senior User Location: silverstone Registered: 20 Jul 2009 Posts: 631 Status: Offline |
Post #39
sorry guys haven't been able to do anything about this my late aunt died and left stuff to me and my bro so been sorting that. i have a spare pair of shafts just need to change the cv and see if it fits ok.________________________________________ custom carbonfibre and fibre glass parts. 07513059320 |
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Posted 15th Oct 2009 at 17:56
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mxcrazy
Regular  Location: hastings Registered: 22 Jun 2009 Posts: 456 Status: Offline |
Post #40
Sorry to bring this forward again but i thought it was interesting before now. vitesse_tuning, did the dispatch shafts and 306 cv's all go as planned? |
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Posted 20th Jan 2010 at 18:40
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vittesse_tuning
Senior User Location: silverstone Registered: 20 Jul 2009 Posts: 631 Status: Offline |
Post #41
sorry i haven't got round to doing it been to busy moving house and i am now doing something different to my 306. i have a pair of shafts i will try and swap over and while they are apart i will measure the lenghts to find out if they are correct. ________________________________________ custom carbonfibre and fibre glass parts. 07513059320 |
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Posted 21st Jan 2010 at 00:08
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mxcrazy
Regular Location: hastings Registered: 22 Jun 2009 Posts: 456 Status: Offline |
Post #42
Does anybody have a drive shaft apart? Do the CV's come off the shaft, ie, circlip fitment? if i can get hold of a centre piece, ie, the longest part of the shaft, and assuming they are the same length both sides, i might be able to get some lengthened shafts made up with the splines to use the original outer pieces and CV's. Is there a standard extra length that this would have to be made to? 40mm longer, or more because the driveshafts dont necc sit horizontal? |
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Posted 22nd Jan 2010 at 00:58
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mxcrazy
Regular Location: hastings Registered: 22 Jun 2009 Posts: 456 Status: Offline |
Post #43
mxcrazy wrote: Does anybody have a drive shaft apart? Do the CV's come off the shaft, ie, circlip fitment? if i can get hold of a centre piece, ie, the longest part of the shaft, and assuming they are the same length both sides, i might be able to get some lengthened shafts made up with the splines to use the original outer pieces and CV's. Is there a standard extra length that this would have to be made to? 40mm longer, or more because the driveshafts dont necc sit horizontal? have a rough price per shaft, of |
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Posted 22nd Jan 2010 at 19:18
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #44
feck, that's a bit ott on the pricing!________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 22nd Jan 2010 at 19:48
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mxcrazy
Regular Location: hastings Registered: 22 Jun 2009 Posts: 456 Status: Offline |
Post #45
welshpug! wrote: feck, that's a bit ott on the pricing! Having a further punt it does seem that way, it is from a reputable drive train specialist though, and literally for 1 offs. Ill have to make further enquiries. It'd be less expensive to have some stock shafts extended, are they solid on the GTI6? |
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Posted 22nd Jan 2010 at 21:15
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #46
nope, tubular  I only comment that its rather expensive as its costing a hell of a lot less to have some shafts shortened for a V6 conversion.the essential process would be similar, i.e cut shaft make insert to fit in it then weld back together, just happens that a V6 shaft needs to be shorter, easy enough to add a section in. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 22nd Jan 2010 at 21:22
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mxcrazy
Regular Location: hastings Registered: 22 Jun 2009 Posts: 456 Status: Offline |
Post #47
welshpug! wrote: nope, tubular I only comment that its rather expensive as its costing a hell of a lot less to have some shafts shortened for a V6 conversion.the essential process would be similar, i.e cut shaft make insert to fit in it then weld back together, just happens that a V6 shaft needs to be shorter, easy enough to add a section in. Im sure modding the stocks shafts, to either lengthen or shorten them is much cheaper, the price i have got is to get some completely new 'middle' sections made as im sure you are aware, must be stronger to do it that way, but id expect that unless you are running massive power, or in a rally/rallycross environment they'd be overkill. And off topic, that 'maxi' on 205gtidriver sounds like a tool, you are more than helpfull and knowledgable and an assett to the site/sites. |
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Posted 22nd Jan 2010 at 21:30
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martinj
Regular Location: Berkshire Registered: 12 Feb 2007 Posts: 322 Status: Offline |
Post #48
...if you have sufficient time on your hands, go to a scrapyard and find a 1.9 (non turbo) citroen dispatch van (or equiv Peugeot / Fiat) and get one of the shafts of it - compare the shaft to the 306 gti and you should be able to then confirm if it is the +40mm required.If it is, then you have a much cheaper solution than having bespoke items made. I had a quote of circa ________________________________________ - Maxi rear axle hub spacers +53mm per side- Maxi front steering rack extensions +40mm per side |
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Posted 25th Jan 2010 at 17:42
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vittesse_tuning
Senior User Location: silverstone Registered: 20 Jul 2009 Posts: 631 Status: Offline |
Post #49
the dispatch van ones are 40mm longer just need to check the cv fits as the van one has to many splines and is larger so won't fit the hub. if anyone wants a pair i have a pair for sale.________________________________________ custom carbonfibre and fibre glass parts. 07513059320 |
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Posted 25th Jan 2010 at 17:47
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #50
Disopatch CV's dont fit the 306 hubs, you may be able to fit 306 hubs into the 306 Hub carrier though, that'd give you 5 stud fixing if you wanted  Looks like they'd be good candidates for a mix and match set though, the shaft is long enough and looks to have the right splines on the end to take a 306/Xsara/Berlingo/Partner CV joint. quote: Dispatch Diesel, Van, (non Turbo), 1.9 8v, ABS/Non ABS. compressed length = 647 mm / 929 mm splines on inner joint = 24 splines on outer joint = 27 C.V. Joint ABS (if applicable) N/A Internal splines = 34 Snap ring located on shaft External splines = 27 306 2.0 16v ABS hatchback compressed length = 600 mm / 886 mm splines on inner joint = 24 splines on outer joint = 25 C.V. Joint ABS (if applicable) ABS teeth = 29 Internal splines = 34 Comments Snap ring located on shaft External splines = 25 no need to go to a scrap yard to find that  what I did notice on the Larger pugs is that the outer spline is about 10-15mm longer, that is included in the compressed length do they may not be that much longer overall. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 25th Jan 2010 at 22:27
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