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My old man wrote me a letter from prison once. It said if you don't want to end up in here, stay away from crime, women and drugs. Trouble is, that don't leave you much else to do, does it?
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Author | Subject: Xsara VTS Steering Rack |
SteviePut
Seasoned Pro Location: Down south Registered: 20 Oct 2005 Posts: 13,637 Status: Offline |
Post #1
Has anyone actually fitted one yet? If so how is it? Is the feel the same?________________________________________ My old man wrote me a letter from prison once. It said if you don't want to end up in here, stay away from crime, women and drugs. Trouble is, that don't leave you much else to do, does it? |
Posted 22nd Apr 2009 at 03:02
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Rich E
Forum Admin Location: Hertfordshire Registered: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 7,757 Status: Offline |
Post #2
Feel will be exactly the same... It will just turn quicker.________________________________________ Rich |
Posted 22nd Apr 2009 at 03:04
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jamesf
Regular Location: Lancashire / Carlisle Registered: 03 Jan 2007 Posts: 378 Status: Offline |
Post #3
Will it foul the gearbox? |
Posted 22nd Apr 2009 at 03:12
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SteviePut
Seasoned Pro Location: Down south Registered: 20 Oct 2005 Posts: 13,637 Status: Offline |
Post #4
Rich E wrote: Feel will be exactly the same... It will just turn quicker. I hope so. The best thing about the Xsara (aside from the looks) was it's steering ________________________________________ My old man wrote me a letter from prison once. It said if you don't want to end up in here, stay away from crime, women and drugs. Trouble is, that don't leave you much else to do, does it? |
Posted 22nd Apr 2009 at 03:12
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SteviePut
Seasoned Pro Location: Down south Registered: 20 Oct 2005 Posts: 13,637 Status: Offline |
Post #5
jamesf wrote: Will it foul the gearbox? No. It's the Ram that limits the lock ________________________________________ My old man wrote me a letter from prison once. It said if you don't want to end up in here, stay away from crime, women and drugs. Trouble is, that don't leave you much else to do, does it? |
Posted 22nd Apr 2009 at 03:13
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spike_uk06
Seasoned Pro Location: Billingshurst Registered: 03 Aug 2006 Posts: 1,637 Status: Offline |
Post #6
humm.. I drove a xsara vts and i didnt think much of the steering ...prehaps because the guy that has bought it I don't really like....________________________________________ Team ChinaTeam Pirelli Team Cracked Bumper 92k 20th Nov 1999 she was born |
Posted 22nd Apr 2009 at 04:13
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306matt
Regular Location: Frodsham Registered: 13 Feb 2007 Posts: 419 Status: Offline |
Post #7
How hard is a RAM to fit? and how much would you expect to pay for one?I really want one on my hdi, you turn the wheel lots for little return. ________________________________________ Team Astor Front Mounted... Hybrid turbo on it's way. |
Posted 25th Apr 2009 at 17:04
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Rich E
Forum Admin Location: Hertfordshire Registered: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 7,757 Status: Offline |
Post #8
As said above you want to change the rack not the ram. The VTS is getting more common in scrap yards now and you can get them for ________________________________________ Rich |
Posted 25th Apr 2009 at 18:48
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306matt
Regular Location: Frodsham Registered: 13 Feb 2007 Posts: 419 Status: Offline |
Post #9
Cheers Rich E, It's like turning a tug boat sometimes with the Hdi.Matt ________________________________________ Team Astor Front Mounted... Hybrid turbo on it's way. |
Posted 25th Apr 2009 at 19:01
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SteviePut
Seasoned Pro Location: Down south Registered: 20 Oct 2005 Posts: 13,637 Status: Offline |
Post #10
306matt wrote: Cheers Rich E, It's like turning a tug boat sometimes with the Hdi. Matt You've not driven a GTi-6 then?? ________________________________________ My old man wrote me a letter from prison once. It said if you don't want to end up in here, stay away from crime, women and drugs. Trouble is, that don't leave you much else to do, does it? |
Posted 25th Apr 2009 at 22:10
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jonnie205
Seasoned Pro Location: Bicester Registered: 10 Apr 2005 Posts: 4,146 Status: Offline |
Post #11
almost certainly hdi and gti will be the same rack |
Posted 25th Apr 2009 at 22:13
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306matt
Regular Location: Frodsham Registered: 13 Feb 2007 Posts: 419 Status: Offline |
Post #12
i think we need to have a look at part numbers on service box.. Or the new ECP website is very handy.Matt ________________________________________ Team Astor Front Mounted... Hybrid turbo on it's way. |
Posted 28th Apr 2009 at 20:16
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Rich E
Forum Admin Location: Hertfordshire Registered: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 7,757 Status: Offline |
Post #13
I can already tell you without looking that the GTi-6 steering rack has a unique part number.________________________________________ Rich |
Posted 28th Apr 2009 at 20:22
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #14
Virtually the same lock-to-lock as a base model rack when you take into account the limiter though.________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
Posted 28th Apr 2009 at 20:24
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dommo
Regular Location: Stoke Registered: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 320 Status: Offline |
Post #15
Sorry for digging up a fairly old topic, but if I was to fit a VTS rack to a 1.9TD, using the 1.9TD ram, would it have the same steering lock as it does now with the 1.9 rack, but it'd get there with less turning on the steering wheel?Very basic description I know but the more simples the better ________________________________________ '99 306 Meridian TD with Bosch fuel pump - Cheap veg oil motoring'99 Xantia Activa turbo - not cheap veg oil motoring Goes around corners well though |
Posted 30th May 2009 at 17:59
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #16
________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
Posted 30th May 2009 at 18:06
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dommo
Regular Location: Stoke Registered: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 320 Status: Offline |
Post #17
Lovely, cheers for that. Any idea how much less the steering wheel turns?Mine has about 1200-1350 or so degrees lock at the moment, and I've got a mate with an MX5 and his is something like 900 degrees and it feels great. ________________________________________ '99 306 Meridian TD with Bosch fuel pump - Cheap veg oil motoring'99 Xantia Activa turbo - not cheap veg oil motoring Goes around corners well though |
Posted 30th May 2009 at 18:14
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #18
Roughly 2.6 turns lock to lock - 936 degrees.________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
Posted 30th May 2009 at 18:16
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dommo
Regular Location: Stoke Registered: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 320 Status: Offline |
Post #19
Is that with a GTi ram, or 5 speed box ram?Or does it make no difference, I'd have thought it would though..? ________________________________________ '99 306 Meridian TD with Bosch fuel pump - Cheap veg oil motoring'99 Xantia Activa turbo - not cheap veg oil motoring Goes around corners well though |
Posted 30th May 2009 at 18:18
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #20
With a VTS ram/no ram.________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
Posted 30th May 2009 at 18:19
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dommo
Regular Location: Stoke Registered: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 320 Status: Offline |
Post #21
Right. And does the VTS ram have allow as much lock as a 5 speed 306 ram? As apposed to the 6 speed gti one I mean.Thanks! ________________________________________ '99 306 Meridian TD with Bosch fuel pump - Cheap veg oil motoring'99 Xantia Activa turbo - not cheap veg oil motoring Goes around corners well though |
Posted 30th May 2009 at 18:22
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #22
________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
Posted 30th May 2009 at 18:23
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dommo
Regular Location: Stoke Registered: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 320 Status: Offline |
Post #23
Brill. Cheers for that, I'll be on the look out for a vts rack now then, one day..!Have you ever been to Curbourgh phillipm? Went the other day and that's whats made me fancy a quick rack after a drive of my mates mx5. I reckon it'd be a good place for a forum meet, anyway I'm going way off topic now. ________________________________________ '99 306 Meridian TD with Bosch fuel pump - Cheap veg oil motoring'99 Xantia Activa turbo - not cheap veg oil motoring Goes around corners well though |
Posted 30th May 2009 at 18:26
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #24
Yeah, great little place, keep trying to organise a day there but it's a bit of a pain in the arse trying to get a date when everyone is happy.I never needed a quick rack in my 1.4 there though, lifting off did just nicely ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
Posted 30th May 2009 at 18:30
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dommo
Regular Location: Stoke Registered: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 320 Status: Offline |
Post #25
No that's true, I don't need one for there exactly, it just feels nicer. Feel like you have to stick on quite a bit of lock most of the corners, but I've not learnt to use lift off oversteer yet!________________________________________ '99 306 Meridian TD with Bosch fuel pump - Cheap veg oil motoring'99 Xantia Activa turbo - not cheap veg oil motoring Goes around corners well though |
Posted 30th May 2009 at 18:41
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