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Deepak Gohil
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720puggti
Seasoned Pro Location: West London Registered: 18 Jan 2009 Posts: 1,069 Status: Offline |
Post #101
cheers greenbelt. i didn't run it for long, not for much longer than that video really. ________________________________________ Deepak Gohil |
Posted 28th Jun 2009 at 03:36
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paul_13
Senior User Location: Reading Registered: 10 Dec 2008 Posts: 693 Status: Offline |
Post #102
Good to hear it started, I can't wait for my 6 conversion to start.Bloody wiring woes ________________________________________ 205 GTI6- Rebuilt engine, lightened flywheel, lightened pulley, 307 hdi brakes, Koni struts on gravel spec springs, 22mm TB's, 24mm ARB, Roll cage, Citreon ZX rear dampers, SL434's, Xsara box, Quickrack, Pipercross enclosed induction kit.Private work, not a prob |
Posted 28th Jun 2009 at 05:57
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gocart man
Junior User Location: east halton Registered: 09 Jan 2008 Posts: 87 Status: Offline |
Post #103
Great work!!Did a complete engine swop a couple of years ago when i bent 2 con rods. Brings back memories. Sold it to my father in law. Just bought another 6, this had the same issue but was cheap for a V reg. Currently just putting it back togrther now. Left my engine in and have removed head and sump, just got head to put on and all the rest. Good threads, nice to see work completed correctly!!! |
Posted 7th Jul 2009 at 20:20
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720puggti
Seasoned Pro Location: West London Registered: 18 Jan 2009 Posts: 1,069 Status: Offline |
Post #104
^^^ cheers mate. but i have some bad news!!unfortunately i made an error in re-assembling the engine... although it runs it is making the dreaded tapping noise! so i'm going to whip it off and take out the valves to check what's gone wrong. i gave Carl (aka mechanical reapirs) a call and he told me it was probably my method of re-assembly. i had no idea that the tolerance was so close. oh well, i live and i learn... hopefully it'll be running sweet this time round. ________________________________________ Deepak Gohil |
Posted 8th Jul 2009 at 19:45
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jose
Senior User Location: W.London Registered: 05 Oct 2008 Posts: 675 Status: Offline |
Post #105
720puggti wrote: ^^^ i drove past the hospital today... i didn't see your car there. perhaps next time - i'll keep an eye out Thats because im living on Oxford atm, will be back this weekend so if ya need a hand give me a shout ________________________________________ Nile Blue GTi6Alpine White 205 GTi 1.9 - Project Air Con Pipes Thread....... Machine Polishing - Paint Correction - Swirl Removal in West London - PM for details |
Posted 9th Jul 2009 at 01:06
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sport1901966
Senior User Location: Hertfordshire/Epsom Registered: 17 Aug 2006 Posts: 687 Status: Offline |
Post #106
720puggti wrote: ^^^ cheers mate. but i have some bad news!! unfortunately i made an error in re-assembling the engine... although it runs it is making the dreaded tapping noise! so i'm going to whip it off and take out the valves to check what's gone wrong. i gave Carl (aka mechanical reapirs) a call and he told me it was probably my method of re-assembly. i had no idea that the tolerance was so close. oh well, i live and i learn... hopefully it'll be running sweet this time round. Out of interest what was the error? |
Posted 23rd Jul 2009 at 22:24
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720puggti
Seasoned Pro Location: West London Registered: 18 Jan 2009 Posts: 1,069 Status: Offline |
Post #107
^^ i don't know. initially my thoughts were bent valves. but they all seem straight. the heads still in bits, as i'm having work done to my garage. i'm gonna lap the valves in again and carry out a leak test to see if the valves are set in position properley. i'll update the thread as soon as i can though, i hope people find my work helpful and interesting. ________________________________________ Deepak Gohil |
Posted 23rd Jul 2009 at 22:30
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dan gti-6
Regular Location: Winchester Registered: 26 Jan 2008 Posts: 112 Status: Offline |
Post #108
720puggti wrote: ^^ i don't know. initially my thoughts were bent valves. but they all seem straight. the heads still in bits, as i'm having work done to my garage. i'm gonna lap the valves in again and carry out a leak test to see if the valves are set in position properley. i'll update the thread as soon as i can though, i hope people find my work helpful and interesting. Trust me you wont see the bent valves by eye, the valves will also seat and hold vacuum even when they are quite seriously bent, this is also the reason they run fine as tappers. |
Posted 23rd Jul 2009 at 22:52
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #109
What was the outcome in this in the end?________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
Posted 25th Sep 2009 at 16:47
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720puggti
Seasoned Pro Location: West London Registered: 18 Jan 2009 Posts: 1,069 Status: Offline |
Post #110
nothing so far. the head is still in pieces in the garage. although i'm pretty certain it's not the valves that are causing the tapping. i have a strong suspicion that it's actually the hydralic lifters that have failed. i didn't really clean them out properley. so i'm gonna physically take them apart and clean and rebuild them when i get the time. which won't be for a while yet, cos i have loads on plate at the moment. but when i do get round to it all, i'll upload the photos and let eveyone know how it all goes. ________________________________________ Deepak Gohil |
Posted 25th Sep 2009 at 21:20
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
Post #111
It's not something silly like a loose spark plug is it? I had that once and it gave me the fear until it was discovered.________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
Posted 25th Sep 2009 at 21:29
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720puggti
Seasoned Pro Location: West London Registered: 18 Jan 2009 Posts: 1,069 Status: Offline |
Post #112
i wish it was the spark plugs man! it definitely isn't them.from inspection and using my own knowledge as well as 2 other techs i know, we're certain it isn't the valves. keep an eye on this though, cos i will be updating, and i will be letting people know what went wrong, and perhaps hw they can avoid it and/or fix it. ________________________________________ Deepak Gohil |
Posted 26th Sep 2009 at 22:45
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720puggti
Seasoned Pro Location: West London Registered: 18 Jan 2009 Posts: 1,069 Status: Offline |
Post #113
Right People! Keep an eye out as this show is gonna be back on the road in a couple of days! Hopefully Thursday You'll all also see the reason for why it's taken so long too... ________________________________________ Deepak Gohil |
Posted 25th Nov 2009 at 03:07
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fletch
Track Head Location: The nearest Shell garage Registered: 12 Jun 2004 Posts: 12,273 Status: Offline |
Post #114
720puggti wrote: You'll all also see the reason for why it's taken so long too... Dropped a screwdriver in the cylinder? |
Posted 25th Nov 2009 at 13:38
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rallyestyle
Seasoned Pro Location: London Registered: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 14,990 Status: Offline |
Post #115
fletch wrote: 720puggti wrote: You'll all also see the reason for why it's taken so long too... Dropped a screwdriver in the cylinder? Hopefully more performance than accident based ________________________________________ Just Drive It |
Posted 25th Nov 2009 at 14:26
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720puggti
Seasoned Pro Location: West London Registered: 18 Jan 2009 Posts: 1,069 Status: Offline |
Post #116
Hi guys,I know this is a bit later than I said it would be but I've been really busy! Anyway the main reason why this project has taken so long is because my garage was broken into along with two of the family cars. So we thought it'd be a good idea to extend the garage to get more cars in... They're not the best pics, but I couldn't get everything to fit in one shot! It's a 4 car garage now, but half of it is my workshop! ________________________________________ Deepak Gohil |
Posted 1st Dec 2009 at 03:10
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jose
Senior User Location: W.London Registered: 05 Oct 2008 Posts: 675 Status: Offline |
Post #117
looks really nice mate, would love a place like that to work on my cars, just needs a 2 post lift! ________________________________________ Nile Blue GTi6Alpine White 205 GTi 1.9 - Project Air Con Pipes Thread....... Machine Polishing - Paint Correction - Swirl Removal in West London - PM for details |
Posted 1st Dec 2009 at 03:17
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720puggti
Seasoned Pro Location: West London Registered: 18 Jan 2009 Posts: 1,069 Status: Offline |
Post #118
Back to the head and the tapping now...Basically when I started the car after re-building everything it started to tap. Dreading the worst, and being informed by members on this forum, I thought i must have bent a valve. So carried out some inspections and this is what i found... What I did first was got a flat surface with a square in one corner (in this case a anti-glare screen). I then lined up the inlet and exhaust valves seperately to see if there were any obviously bent valves... These are the inlet ones. Visually they all seemed straight, but as a further check i got a rule and held it to the valves, sure enough all the valves touched at the same time. These tests confirmed to me that I had not bent a valve. I also got the same results with the exhaust valves. ________________________________________ Deepak Gohil |
Posted 1st Dec 2009 at 03:36
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720puggti
Seasoned Pro Location: West London Registered: 18 Jan 2009 Posts: 1,069 Status: Offline |
Post #119
So after this I cleaned the valves in the pillar drill with some scotchbright.________________________________________ Deepak Gohil |
Posted 1st Dec 2009 at 03:24
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720puggti
Seasoned Pro Location: West London Registered: 18 Jan 2009 Posts: 1,069 Status: Offline |
Post #120
I then set up to re-lap the valves and clean the springs and collets etc...________________________________________ Deepak Gohil |
Posted 1st Dec 2009 at 03:25
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720puggti
Seasoned Pro Location: West London Registered: 18 Jan 2009 Posts: 1,069 Status: Offline |
Post #121
So as for the tapping, my attention turned to the hydraulic lifters... all the lifters in the engine are the original ones except for one. I had to replace it as one of the originals had dropped.Anyway, as I began to clean the lifters, I noticed that one of them was an odd colour... Instead of being shiny like the others it looked like it had been overheating. Whether this was the new one I put in, I don't know, but I am almost certain that this is what was causing the tapping. It looks like I'm gonna have to buy another one! This is one of the "good" ones... ________________________________________ Deepak Gohil |
Posted 1st Dec 2009 at 03:31
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720puggti
Seasoned Pro Location: West London Registered: 18 Jan 2009 Posts: 1,069 Status: Offline |
Post #122
Anyway that's it for now, I'll be buidling the head back up on Wednesday... I think. More pics then!________________________________________ Deepak Gohil |
Posted 1st Dec 2009 at 03:32
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tez_306
Junior User Location: Australia Registered: 16 Sep 2009 Posts: 68 Status: Offline |
Post #123
Awesome thread, good luck with it all |
Posted 2nd Dec 2009 at 14:30
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stebro-gti-6
Newbie Location: fareham Registered: 16 Oct 2009 Posts: 38 Status: Offline |
Post #124
The hydraulic lifters should be De pressurized before they are put back in the head, then you have to turn over the engine without starting it to get the oil pressure up .Then you can start the engine, it will tap for a min or two but once the oil pressure is all up they should go quiet ________________________________________ China Blue on Black Clones |
Posted 2nd Dec 2009 at 17:52
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MCH_GTi6
formerly mch Location: Hayle Registered: 09 Sep 2005 Posts: 2,456 Status: Offline |
Post #125
I dont know if anyone that has more knowledge than me can shed further light on this but,I have 2 valves in my shed which I know are bent but by eye they look fine... Was told they didnt "cut" perfect first time meaning they are bent - this was when I had a tapping head re-built (only these 2 replaced and head never tapped since) So worth checking with a machine/engine shop? ________________________________________ Team Moonstone� Ph3 GTI6Team Rallye |
Posted 3rd Dec 2009 at 00:15
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