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cbaker

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Hi, I got a phase 1 (I think) P-reg gti-6. It's the one where the headlight and the front indicator are seperate units. And the spot lights in the bumper are rectangle instead of round.
Anyhoo......... I would like to put a newer looking front end on it. The one where the headlight and the indicators are all in one, and the bumpers got the round spots in it. For this to work, will i need:
The front bumper.
The bonnet?
The grille?
Headlights.
And more importantly...... Will it go on?
Posted 28th Jun 2007 at 23:28
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mr swampy s16

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Post #2
you will need all of those parts plus the panel they all mount on
and yes they will go on.
Posted 29th Jun 2007 at 00:05
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pugpete

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Yeah that will work,but TBH i`d keep the p1 front as there getting rare nowadays Wink

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Posted 29th Jun 2007 at 00:57
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phil b

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Yeah that will work,but TBH i`d keep the p1 front as there getting rare nowadays Wink

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Posted 3rd Jul 2007 at 07:32
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PeteB

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seconded!

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Posted 3rd Jul 2007 at 11:26
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nathanation

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whilst your on the subject will P2 headlights fit straight into a p1? same wiring and mountings?
Posted 4th Jul 2007 at 00:02
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PeteB

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i think there will be some diferences as the p1 has not got the remote headligh adjusters. but also the wings are a slightly different shape and some modifications are needed to the framework i believe

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Posted 4th Jul 2007 at 05:33
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anth_gti6

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i think there will be some diferences as the p1 has not got the remote headligh adjusters. but also the wings are a slightly different shape and some modifications are needed to the framework i believe


there is a FAQ about rewiring the ph1 lights to ph2s, the parts you need are

bonet
badge
grill
bumper
fogs
headlights
slam panel
bonet release cable
rivets (for wing, ph1 bolts will fowl hydrolic lifters)

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Posted 4th Jul 2007 at 05:38
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jon_k

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Yeah that will work,but TBH i`d keep the p1 front as there getting rare nowadays Wink


And in sigma the best looking Wink

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Posted 4th Jul 2007 at 14:48
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306xtdt

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Post #10
do the headlamps only, the bonnet dont quite line up but i knda like it;

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Posted 4th Jul 2007 at 19:14
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ryangti6

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Post #11
standard ph1 is the way mate.
If you want a ph2/3 front end then buy one, as said ph1s are getting rare. you will devalue your car by doing the swap IMO.
If you have made up your mind then do it how you suggested because any other way involves cutting bits of your car away and as shown above they are a poor fit.
Just but new standard ph1 headlights and indicators if your not happy with there appearance as older ones do tend to lose there sparkle a bit.

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Posted 4th Jul 2007 at 19:42
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PUG306GTI

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listen to these guys. they know what they're talking about Thumbs up Phase 1's all the way!!

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Posted 4th Jul 2007 at 19:46
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jon_k

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do the headlamps only, the bonnet dont quite line up but i knda like it;



Not a fan tbh, the fact the lamps and the bonnet don't line up puts me off, ALOT.

But each to their own.

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Posted 4th Jul 2007 at 21:53
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carlos esteban

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Post #14
Maybe if you fill up the gap and then repaint the bonnet, can get a wonderful front end.
Have any more pics to see better how big is the gap?
Posted 4th Jul 2007 at 21:24
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nathanation

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Post #15
could someone post a link to the faq for putting p2/3 lights on a p1? thanks Smile
Posted 5th Jul 2007 at 02:07
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ktb

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Post #16
dont do it!!!!! phase 1 gti 6 rule!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted 3rd Aug 2007 at 01:29
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jumpingjimmers

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so do the p2/3 lights plugg straight in to p1 wiring?? confused! thanks

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Posted 4th Oct 2010 at 01:46
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anth_gti6

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Post #18
jumpingjimmers wrote:
so do the p2/3 lights plugg straight in to p1 wiring?? confused! thanks


epic thread resurrection, no the headlights use different plugs.

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Posted 5th Oct 2010 at 04:15
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dan86

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Post #19
The end part of the inner wing needs chopping off to make room for the deeper fitting headlights - about 2 inches if i remember correctly. I converted my Phase1 to Phase 2 and the novelty wore off after a couple of months as you see hundreds of hdi cars on the road. Wish i had left it alone to be honest. Phase 1s have a more "classic" look, and P2/3 look more current IMO. Just look at the 306 maxi with P1 lights. looks so right. I drive a phase 2 by the way! would love a P1 again.

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Posted 8th Oct 2010 at 15:50
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swiftyboi006

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Post #20
dont tell him how to do it. keep the phase 1 front end..........

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Posted 27th Oct 2010 at 23:44
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