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Author Subject: Red GTi6 from Germany (...with Love. And Rust)
chrissi1106

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Hello!

first of all, great to be here, as your forum has helped me the past months tremendously with my research and realisation, in what the f. I've gotten into. LOL wall of text incoming

Little about me:

My name is Chrissi, from Germany and I am coming with a very troubled french past. Big grin I think it all began with my mothers 205 "gtd" - from there to my parents 306 break and 206 break (where I begun to work on cars by myself) and to my own 206 S16 (tldr, first car, first track expierences, engine seized due to s**tty aftermarked oil cooler lines splitting, rebuild, still got her). Shortly after I bought a red RC/GTi180 with the plans to convert her to a track only car. With that done over the past 9 years (well, I can share some specs if youre interested) and some personal setbacks lately I decided to buy something else, but still got the RC aswell, at my local dealers showroom. Was very tempted to get a C2 VTS but declined, as I already knew the TU Engine. (and a friend got one, so... I get to wrench on it nevertheless Big grin)

Long Story not so short, I found a Vallelunga red 2000 ph3 GTi6 a few hundred kilometers away fairly cheap to look at the same weekend, with the intention of flipping her relatively fast. So studied practically the whole forum, forgot everything the day I got there and bought her anyway. She was/is very sorry for herself, as all the paint is fading, resprays everywhere, slammed on cheapo coilovers with an already ruined replacement rear axle, repaired rear quarterpanel damage, parking scrapes, hanging exhaust, ripped seats, rust on/in bootfloor, under ABS module... yeah, the lot. And I'm missing a few things propably. //As I am editing this, the last owner documented his work on instagram. Found a tag in the boot. Oh Boi. What a mess he left me with.//

So the next weekend I brought her home (thats getting important soon) and startet immediatly with a wash and then tearing her down. Stripped the whole interior, rear axle, tank, front subframe, suspension, engine and gearbox. After that, got her to a befriended workshop/my peugeot dealer to get the bootflor welded. Shortly after I tripped down to Sochaux to get a sh.load of parts. (i think it got outta control there)
In the meantime I got some additional paperwork from the seller, and was pleasently suprised as I red, that the car was first registered only a few miles away from my hometown.

When I went to pick the car up, the head of garage (? master in germany Big grin) recognized the car and directly checked the VIN in their system. It was delivered through them in february 2000 from new to an older gentleman. Got all inspections done there and even the quarterpanel repair I mentioned above. The car wasnt even 1 year old. 2004 after another small accident the car got sold off. 20 years later, now in my possesion, it returns to the same people, where I get my parts from the past 15 years or so. I quite liked that. So i justify everything with that, even that the sum of parts are considerably higher than the price i bought the car for. Dunno

If you all made it THIS far (sorry I cant be helped) I shortly summarize what has been done/bought:


done:
- engine bay, front wheelwell, middle tunnel derusted and painted
- bootfloor and rear wheelwells derusted and partly pained
- bought an citroen zx diesel subframe without rust (but much oil on it Big grin)
- gearbox seals and clutch arm bearings, valeo clutch
- rear main seal, cambelt wip due to slipped pulley
- bought a metric s**tton of various parts (oe cambelt kit, rear axle, bilsteins, fasteners, seals, bushes, rallye fog blanks etc)

yeah... thats it. I massively underestimated the rust removal, as I have practical 0 expierence and cant be asked to progress on that in the cold. But getting there. The plan is to just get her back on the road. A nice backroad/daily/classic. The last 3 door 306 I saw on german streets must been a whole eternity back. Only cabriolets here.

first impressions


Oh her way back home

Presents from me to me from Sochaux Big grin


First wash, last time in one piece for a while

Engine went out fairly easy tbh, much more worse to get a 2L EW out of a 206

Rust on both sides, signs of damage


typical abs module and wheelwell rust


bootfloor welded up

rear right windows sat so low it scrapes, same on maxi in museum though

de-rusted (csd wheels, rostio gel), seam sealed and primed

finished (except 2 holes passenger side, needs to be welded later)

engine bay finished

rear wheelwells derusted (and seam sealed meanwhile aswell)

middle tunnel finished (except for ripped off heatshield studs, think i am going rivnuts here)

gearbox split, first clutch safe, dead af

cleaning the fork

finally new parts going onto the car

not the first cambelt but old at best




Please have a little bit patience with me, as I will add pictures bit by bit.

Dont except daily updates, due to the place where I work on the car is an hour away. But I will update regulary.

Thanks for the read. Big grin


Chrissi
Posted 7th Feb 2025 at 12:39
miki4

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Welcome, thumbs up und viel Erfolg! Wink
Posted 5th Feb 2025 at 18:02
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Welcome and It's nice to see people still loving these cars.

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Posted 6th Feb 2025 at 09:44
chrissi1106

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What a nice welcome, thanks a lot (:

@-er-,

admitted, I am a little late to the party, and most of you can say "been there, done that", but with the 306 pushing 30 years and becoming historical in germany, and just being a great car (hopefully Big grin), I think it should stay on the streets as long as possible. I ll do my best.
Posted 6th Feb 2025 at 20:40
Joep

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Welcome! And what a work you have put in that car already. Keep up the good job!

Not sure where you live in Germany, but you might spot one of mine from time to time near the Dutch border (A4 from Aachen to Cologne).

My track GTI6 is actually from Germany. But runs yellow license plates now…

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Posted 7th Feb 2025 at 06:18
S8-Tom

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Welcome along. Looks like you've had your work cut out for you but you're making good progress and doing all the right things!

The good thing with "being late to the party" is that most of the problems have been dealt with before and documented on this forum, as you've found.

chrissi1106 wrote:

middle tunnel finished (except for ripped off heatshield studs, think i am going rivnuts here)


A bit of advice here, the tunnel is made of multiple panels and a rivnut won't work well (panels are too far apart). Either find someone with a stud welder or, drill a hole through all panels then weld a bolt on inside (at the head of the bolt) and again on the bottom where the bolt emerges in the tunnel. Also, be careful if drilling as there's wires, that run from the front to rear, above the tunnel Thumbs up

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Posted 7th Feb 2025 at 08:55
chrissi1106

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I am overwhelmed by the reactions, havent thought of getting feedback at all. Big grin

Joep wrote:
Welcome! And what a work you have put in that car already. Keep up the good job!

Not sure where you live in Germany, but you might spot one of mine from time to time near the Dutch border (A4 from Aachen to Cologne).


Appreciated! The Garage where I work on her is situated in Niedersachsen, so unfortunately not really near you. But great to see 3 (or...at least 2 Big grin) GTi6 from the remaining ~50 registered on germany here.

S8-Tom wrote:
A bit of advice here, the tunnel is made of multiple panels and a rivnut won't work well (panels are too far apart). Either find someone with a stud welder or, drill a hole through all panels then weld a bolt on inside (at the head of the bolt) and again on the bottom where the bolt emerges in the tunnel. Also, be careful if drilling as there's wires, that run from the front to rear, above the tunnel


Thats a great advice, thank you so much! Infact I worked through your thread with so much joy during the first rust treatments on my car, makes me happy to see you here.

Havent done much the past days, just:

-Resealed the vacuum pump
- stripped the replacement rear axle to get the arms blasted, just to find indeed new shafts (of whatever quality, got some from Peugeot Museum ready to get pressed in) and all old seals and heavily corroded bars
- brought the lower engine mount and wheelbearing carrier to peugeot to get things pressed out (and a pug1off street bush pressed in) and ready to get blasted aswell





And I scored a genuine 0515K6 Crank Pulley from the Museum aswell, very happy about that. Not that kind of a "everything has to be genuine guy" but certain parts better are. So hopefully not much more trouble during the cambelt and camseal replacement.

Chrissi
Posted 7th Feb 2025 at 12:37

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