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167hp

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Location: Pontypool

Registered: 07 Mar 2023

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Post #1
Hi, today was a absolute f**k up!! Over the last 6 months I've been doing what I can with my 6 as life, weather and other things always get in the way as we all know.. Ive gone from a recon head purchased from autotech which turned out to be trash because it was bent and my cams nearly seized so head went back. The head that came of the engine originally I thought was knackered was saved thank god.. It needed welding, skimming and so on. Changed big end bearings with care, measurements were taken and all was good. All internals were replaced in the head and it was all back together, New oil pump cambelt kit and every thing that leaves you skint but it's worth it. Today engine was all timed up it had fresh oil, coolant etc. As I was checking everything I took plugs out disconnected fuel relay to prime engine with oil.. Then my old girl rang me which side tracked me which made me prime the f**king engine while the timing pin was still in the crank PULLEY! F**K!! I'm absolutely heart broken!! What a f**king idiot!! When I checked the cams they had shifted about 100 degrees but crank pulley was still held by the pin?? Given the timing belt is driven by crank it didn't make sense unless I'm being stupid?? I took the pulley off and had to move it to fit it it's place on the key and the weird thing is that when I timed the engine back up all timing holes lined up?? The belt was torn a bit and crank sprocket looked OK. So most probs unseen damage somewhere F**K KNOWS!! Sorry to give you all my life story but had to share because I'm absolutely gutted!! Carnt look at it till next weekend as life is knocking at the door. 😂😂😭😭😭😭

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Posted 31st Jan 2025 at 17:48
pesukaru

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Post #2
I feel you, man! Big grin

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Posted 2nd Feb 2025 at 09:54
miki4

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Post #3
Sounds llke you used the original crank pulley with the rubber bonding? As far as I can think of, a solid pulley (which you should use for timing up the engine if you don't know for sure that your rubber one hasn't shifted!) should keep the crank in place or break the timing pin on the crank pulley if you try to start. If you used the original pulley, the timing pin will have held the rubber in place but the inner part of it which sits on the crank will have shifted relative to the rubber. There is no other possibility the cams could have shifted other than starter -> crank -> timing belt -> cam. Therefore I guess there is no damage done. Just don't try anything unless you are sure your crank pulley has it's timing hole in the right position and hasn't shifted! Hope I didn't write any bulls**t.
Posted 3rd Feb 2025 at 21:41
167hp

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Post #4
Had a look this weekend and it turns out that everything still timed up with a slightly torn cambelt thank god. I've got a alloy pulley that I bought from pug 1 about 2 years ago. That I forgot to mention sorry. This is what I couldn't work out as the pulley slides or fits on woodruff key then bolt torqued to 120nm the pulley itself was held by the timing pin that I stupidly left in and crank still shifted. I've changed cam belt as other was torn checked woodruff keys, sprocket and pulley for damage all looked and felt OK. Started engine and head sounds as it should but the bottom end sounds like a F**KING woodpecker!! Took sump off and checked conrod bearings 3 of them where ok but the one next to pulley fell out when I took cap off. Put another pair in checked clearance, oil pump and sump back on, filled with oil, primed with plugs out then started engine.. STILL SOUNDS LIKE A F**KING WOODPECKER!! AAHHHHH! I'll never forgive myself for this!! Stupid twat!! I'm thinking that I've bent or twisted the crank slightly on rod pin or journal causing side to side slap on the crank due to the stress of the pulley being held by timing pin and cranked with starter motor maybe?? Thanks for your replies much appreciated.

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Posted 23rd Mar 2025 at 19:56
welshpug!

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Location: Bigend, Wales.

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Post #5
That number 4 conrod is probably scrap, if the bearing fell out then it has spun and misshapen the bore of the rod, a new bearing in there will never run right.


chances are the aftermarket oil pump was dry, they are never as good as the original ones, and that the old bearings you took out were absolutely hammered and worn the rods.



if you turned the engine over using the starter motor with the timing pin installed and it did not snap the aluminium casting on the block, but spun the aluminium pulley and ruined the keyway??

this wont have been enough to ruin the bearings unless it fired up and ran, the earlier engines rely on the clamping force of the crank bolt to drive the oil pump.

then that pulley will never go on in the same place again.


your posts are so hard to read, try spacing them out with the enter key!

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Posted 19th Apr 2025 at 10:50
167hp

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Post #6
That my gti6ers is what welshpug said it was.. Distorted alloy pulley!! I got another alloy pulley from pug1off and the woodpecker has kindly f**ked off! 😁 Welshpug..? I don't know you but thank you for your help and replies! Legend! 👍

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C. Hughes
Posted 24th May 2025 at 21:41

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