Post #52
Time for a bit of an update on this.....I've not updated here for ages....so will be a series of posts...
I really dont know what's wrong with me and cars, honestly I don't. Nothing really seems to go right, be easy or simple or generally not cause me hassles. The Xsara, it seems, doesnt want to break with tradition.
So, way back at the start of this thread, when it was up on the ramps being tracked, I noticed the cat had been 'clearanced'....since I've owned it, there has been an issue with the exhaust vibrating against the car body somewhere (most likely the subframe) under acceleration. Up until today, I suspected the reason to be a worn bottom engine mount. I'm now entirely convinced that this is not the issue.
Since the weekend drive out to Yorkshire, the engines not been happy, throwing a code for the position 1 lambda sensor (covered that already) and seeing as I've a spare from the breaker, I decided I'd swap them. How hard could it be?
With it being so low, it's a pain to get jacked up enough for me.to get under it but eventually I did. Axles stands in position, away I went. The lambda sensor was a complete pig. Even with a 2 ft bar on the end of the spanner, it was having none of it and my left shoulder gave out before it cracked free. Hmmm, plan b.
I've a spare cat from the breaker and given the one on the car has been butchered, I figured why not take it all off and have a proper look. First job, remove battery, battery box and then ECU from the back of the battery box to gain access to the two lambda sensor connections. With those disconnected and the leads fed down, it was time to get the exhaust off. I only needed to remove the centre section, the back box could stay in position. Centre section came off easily. Cat, much less so.
Access was awful. A 12" extension bar, a 3" bar on top of that and a deep reach 13mm socket. Stupidly designed clamped, lots of swearing fiddling, access you need the hands of a 5 year old for....
Battery box off and ECU separated
Lambda plugs undone
The horrible clearencing job
And the god awful clamp
Eventually, I got everything undone, the clamp remove and the cat off.....where the full horrors became evident.
It's clearly the wrong cat. Something that needs that much adjustment, and still doesn't fit right, clearly isn't right. I know its not the original cat as the history details a replacement after an MOT failure on emmisons. However, that's been hammered so much, the pipe is less than half it's original diameter.
At this point, I got the other cat from the breaker out and compared them. It was at this point, it dawned on me it was the wrong cat. The difference is massive and the garage must have known with the amount of modification they had to do, and even then it still didnt fit properly.
This is the biggest bit for me. This is the difference in the section that's been flattened. It's almost 2" in difference. That's 2" more clearance over the subframe.
So the cat that's come off, won't be going be going back on. I'll try the one that came off the breaker. I did a trial fit, and it's much, much better.
For a giggle, I thought I'd see what Citroen want for a cat....
I'll take two please
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So, overnight, I did a bit of asking on the Xsara owners Facebook page.
Someone else with a VTS replied with some very interesting information. Cats for these cars, at least ones which fit, are very hard to come by. Citroen are now NFP and ridiculously expensive. Ones from Eurocarparts do not fit properly at all. It seems the only options are to find a second hand OEM one, a Bosal one (these are apparently what Citroen fit and who make the OEM ones), or a custom one. Milltek apparently made one too but even that needed some fettling to fit properly.
So I had a look at Bosals online catalogue at the cat. Very interesting picture.
Mine looks exactly the same as that in terms of shape. It's clearly much better around the subframe and has the same bend after the matrix.
I've had a good look at it and apart from some vague engravings and the remnants of a sticker, I can't tell who it's manufactured by.
It definitely looks the right shape.....
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