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Author Subject: Newman 300 cams?
sergioiacobucci

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Post #1
Hi All,

I am looking into some cams to go with my throttle body setup. I have been told I can run these Newman 300s with pocketed pistons but could someone confirm if this is correct please?

http://www.newman-cams.co.uk/Newman-Cams-Peugeot-306-GTI-6-All-Race-Camshafts-PEUT300468-PH5_25197_15_3606_18911.jsp

I am slightly surprised you can run them without having to do any other head work

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Posted 4th Dec 2016 at 21:16
welshpug!

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Post #2
lol.

nope, a ph2 264 degree cam is the wildest you can go.

PH4 286 degree cams need double valve springs and much deeper cutouts than you can make in a standard piston, and much more than a 10.8-1 compression ratio, Ph5 300 degree cam is a solid tappet profile.


I would suggest not listening to whoever told you they would work.

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Posted 4th Dec 2016 at 21:23
blandy

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Post #3
No way will they go in a standard engine with standard pistons pocketed. Also there for solid lifters only so would need head work

My engine has Newman ph2 and with the piston pockets enlarged for safe timing

Edit Welsh beat me to it
Posted 4th Dec 2016 at 21:25
sergioiacobucci

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Post #4
welshpug! wrote:
lol.

nope, a ph2 264 degree cam is the wildest you can go.

PH4 286 degree cams need double valve springs and much deeper cutouts than you can make in a standard piston, and much more than a 10.8-1 compression ratio, Ph5 300 degree cam is a solid tappet profile.


I would suggest not listening to whoever told you they would work.


Thank you! The person suggesting this is the one on ebay trying to sell them, thank god I checked here first. Really good price though if anyone is looking for some £120

Cheers WP as always

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Posted 4th Dec 2016 at 21:25
sergioiacobucci

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blandy wrote:
No way will they go in a standard engine with standard pistons pocketed. Also there for solid lifters only so would need head work

My engine has Newman ph2 and with the piston pockets enlarged for safe timing

Edit Welsh beat me to it


Haha thanks though mate

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Posted 4th Dec 2016 at 21:25
welshpug!

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Post #6
yeah, it kinda spirals once you go past the standard modified piston limitation, there is no PH3 cam, its straight into a PH4.

double valve springs £307.
Omega Pistons £400.
Good forged rods £600.


or add solid tappets at £391 and go full retard.

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Posted 4th Dec 2016 at 21:35
sergioiacobucci

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welshpug! wrote:
yeah, it kinda spirals once you go past the standard modified piston limitation, there is no PH3 cam, its straight into a PH4.

double valve springs £307.
Omega Pistons £400.
Good forged rods £600.


or add solid tappets at £391 and go full retard.


LOL LOL

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Posted 4th Dec 2016 at 21:39
welshpug!

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I cant find them on ebay?

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Posted 4th Dec 2016 at 21:39
sergioiacobucci

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welshpug! wrote:
I cant find them on ebay?


Yeh they ended about 30mins ago being sold by someone called "fords are better than peugeots" or something

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Posted 4th Dec 2016 at 21:42
robthe6

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Post #10
on again http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Peugeot-Gti6-Gti-6-Newman-300-Race-Cams-/262752340267?hash=item3d2d42892b:g:8cwAAOSwwE5WZhPr

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Posted 14th Dec 2016 at 11:14
sergioiacobucci

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Post #11
WP did you just buy them?

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Posted 14th Dec 2016 at 13:10
welshpug!

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Post #12
no, lol.

I have PH4's and my engine has been finished and running for a while now.

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Posted 14th Dec 2016 at 13:37
sergioiacobucci

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Fair enough thought you were hunting them down!

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Posted 14th Dec 2016 at 13:59
welshpug!

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Post #14
naah, I'm having enough trouble saving money for mapping let along the added costs of solid tappets!

286 degrees are enough for my engine.

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Posted 14th Dec 2016 at 14:17

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