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While I'm sure it's been done, can't seem to find any info on it.I have a spare Mi16 S2 engine along with spare gti ecu (unlocked), sensors, loom and manifolds.
are there any specific issues, pitfalls etc?
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Junior User  Location: under Down under Registered: 18 Jan 2013 Posts: 78 Status: Offline |
I have a spare Mi16 S2 engine along with spare gti ecu (unlocked), sensors, loom and manifolds. are there any specific issues, pitfalls etc? |
 Posted 4th Jul 2016 at 14:21
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
Post #2
The RFY engine doesn't have a map sensor, its onboard the ECU taking a vac signal from the front of the intake plenum.The RFS doest have the 12v output for the ACAV solenoid either. The RFY coils are 3 wire externally driven by ignition amplifiers, RFS 2 wire coils dont fit and are directly driven from the ecu otherwise afaik the rest of the sensors will work, crank and knock sensors TPS IAT etc work in the same way, also the cam sensor. it may well work on an RFS inlet but I doubt the ecu will have an ideal map, also you'll have the faff of making the oil pipework fit around the different inlet. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 4th Jul 2016 at 15:10
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IvayloPavlov
Regular  Location: Sofia,Bulgaria Registered: 06 Aug 2012 Posts: 265 Status: Offline |
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With RFS manifold can be happen.There is big difference between the TBs.ACAV engine is with 3 wire idle valve,GTI6 is with stepper.I believe that the GTI6 runs fully sequential,but older one semi. |
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Posted 4th Jul 2016 at 18:28
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welshpug! wrote: The RFY engine doesn't have a map sensor, its onboard the ECU taking a vac signal from the front of the intake plenum. The RFS doest have the 12v output for the ACAV solenoid either. The RFY coils are 3 wire externally driven by ignition amplifiers, RFS 2 wire coils dont fit and are directly driven from the ecu otherwise afaik the rest of the sensors will work, crank and knock sensors TPS IAT etc work in the same way, also the cam sensor. it may well work on an RFS inlet but I doubt the ecu will have an ideal map, also you'll have the faff of making the oil pipework fit around the different inlet. Had a quick look at it and it does seem like things will fit, even the loom is pretty close. I'll have to have a closer look at the coils though. did you get PP2k sorted? |
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Posted 4th Jul 2016 at 23:44
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IvayloPavlov wrote: With RFS manifold can be happen.There is big difference between the TBs.ACAV engine is with 3 wire idle valve,GTI6 is with stepper.I believe that the GTI6 runs fully sequential,but older one semi. I would use all RFS sensors, icv, loom and ecu. So it would be sequential. |
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Posted 4th Jul 2016 at 23:47
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IvayloPavlov
Regular Location: Sofia,Bulgaria Registered: 06 Aug 2012 Posts: 265 Status: Offline |
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What about the injectors?RFS use 265 cc, RFT/Y 195 cc. |
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Posted 5th Jul 2016 at 05:44
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IvayloPavlov wrote: What about the injectors?RFS use 265 cc, RFT/Y 195 cc. definitely the gti injectors. measured up the gti coils, if you cut the mounting tabs off and swap the boot then they fit quite well |
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Posted 5th Jul 2016 at 12:19
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
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what about the map?________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 5th Jul 2016 at 12:39
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IvayloPavlov
Regular Location: Sofia,Bulgaria Registered: 06 Aug 2012 Posts: 265 Status: Offline |
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With GTI manifold there will be no issue in my POV. |
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Posted 5th Jul 2016 at 19:25
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,838 Status: Offline |
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cams port flow valve sizes compression ratio exhaust flow is all different...________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 5th Jul 2016 at 20:24
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Always the voice of reason Welsh  Do you really think port flow is going to be that much different? It'll need a remap regardless no doubt. |
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Posted 6th Jul 2016 at 00:25
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